gattaca Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 This is a political master stroke from congress f*****s. They will sweep the LS polls in Telangana (along with TRS) and get majority of seats in Andhra; as YSRC' date=' which is the most vocal united andhra/anti-telangana party, will be forced to deal with them. YS Jagan has no option but to join them as the congress bureau of investigation might end his career otherwise. Andhra Pradesh and the TDP are screwed for the next 5 years[/quote'] Andhra oppose telangana then why would congress get seats in andhra ? TDP is party with no plan they deserve to suffer. They never mentioned anything if they agree to telangana or not.
gattaca Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Some of the administrators that the state of Andhra has had are way better than the current lot who potray themselves as saviors and leaders of Telangana. As people of Andhra ,Telangana people had atleast their own identity Now be ready to go back into the "Dora" (Telangana term for Yor Highness)...Kaal Mokuthha Baanchan(Fall at your feet your highness) days with the new management. Inter-mingling and forming a unified culture of being a part of Andhra was the best thing that happened to forget the wounds of Nizam's atrocities to Telangana people....If Telangana leaders/Supporters had that much love and passion may be they should start more programs for the uplifment of the poor villagers than wanting a seperate state and putting it in hands of more corrupt politicians. It's only a power mongering ploy. Also Andhra would be glad to get rid of the Gangrene that is backward Telangana (No disrespect,Just the truth)but obviously there is too much vested in Hyderabad. we will write our own destiny its not for someone to decide where we go from here.
Sachin=GOD Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 must say its a brilliantly timed political move by Kaangress.
kubrickian Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Some of the administrators that the state of Andhra has had are way better than the current lot who potray themselves as saviors and leaders of Telangana. As people of Andhra ,Telangana people had atleast their own identity Now be ready to go back into the "Dora" (Telangana term for Yor Highness)...Kaal Mokuthha Baanchan(Fall at your feet your highness) days with the new management. Inter-mingling and forming a unified culture of being a part of Andhra was the best thing that happened to forget the wounds of Nizam's atrocities to Telangana people....If Telangana leaders/Supporters had that much love and passion may be they should start more programs for the uplifment of the poor villagers than wanting a seperate state and putting it in hands of more corrupt politicians. It's only a power mongering ploy. Also Andhra would be glad to get rid of the Gangrene that is backward Telangana (No disrespect,Just the truth)but obviously there is too much vested in Hyderabad. maniac bhai, it seems you are getting too bothered about this. The way I see it, Indians for the most part are not educated and also have limited opportunities. Its easy for politicians to manipulate their emotions with language, religion, region etc and sell them false promises. India(or other countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh) will remain like this for another 50-60 years or so, till most of society has good quality education. Till then worrying about India or politics is a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.
King Tendulkar Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Mayawati wants UP split in to 4. I totally agree with this. Smaller states function and are run better. But what are mayawatis motives behind this? I would have thought the bigger the state the better for her as she can make more money then? Maybe feels one state could be carved out in a stronghold for her were she will never lose?
asterix Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 must say its a brilliantly timed political move by Kaangress. Desperate situation need desperate measures.... It's still a gamble, could go either way. Might work well as a diversionary tactics also... As it still has to be "ratified" by the Parliament...
diga Posted July 31, 2013 Author Posted July 31, 2013 Narendra Modi’s open letter to people of Andhra Pradesh.. clever, immediately tries to exploit the minor discontent of people from Andra region Dear brothers and sisters from all regions of Andhra Pradesh, Namaskaram! I am looking forward to interacting with all of you on August 11 at the Nava Bharath Yuva Bheri Public Rally in Hyderabad. During the public meeting at Hyderabad, I was hoping to share my thoughts on the issue of statehood for Telangana as well as on all of your concerns on a roadmap for all the regions of Andhra Pradesh. However, in the wake of the sequence of events, the Congress Party has done in the last few days what it shied away from doing in the last 9 years- to work overtime on a decision over Telangana. It is an undisputable fact that Congress Party has neither been consistent nor transparent in its conduct over the creation of a Telangana state. Thus, a Party and a Government that has betrayed the people on the issue of Telangana time and again can hardly be trusted on this issue this time around. It is equally true that the BJP has been forthcoming and transparent in its support for statehood to Telangana. The BJP is the only party with the strongest record on the creation of small states. It maybe recalled that it was the NDA Government under the leadership of Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee that created three new states of Chhattisgarh, Uttarakhand (then known as Uttaranchal) and Jharkhand in 2000 thus giving a new ray of hope to the aspirations of the people in these areas. Friends, the same Congress party that won in 2004 on the promise of Telangana has played cynical games with the aspirations and sentiments of the people for nine long years. Now, at a time when there are only a few months left before the people of this ountry vote again, the Congress Party is rushing to announce Telangana. This raises serious concerns on the seriousness and intentions of the Congress. After winning handsomely in Andhra Pradesh under the leadership of YS Rajashekhara Reddy in 2004 and 2009, the Congress has turned its back on this state since the former Chief Minister died. In December 2009, the then Home Minister P Chidambaram announced the commencement of the process for statehood to Telangana only to be withdrawn hastily. The Congress then sought to buy time by creating another committee on the question of Telangana. But, it remained indifferent to the collapse in administration, political violence and the unfortunate specter of suicides by youngsters of Telangana. Meanwhile, governance came to a standstill in Andhra Pradesh. While we welcome any forward movement on the issue of Telangana, we yet again ask how real is the intent of the Congress and the UPA Government this time around. I would like to pose the following questions to the Congress leadership and the UPA Government. Question 1 – Where is your homework in terms of creating consensus in your own party, within the Government and within all political parties on the issue of Telangana when you have been speaking in so many divergent voices? Question 2 – Unlike capital cities that became shared capitals by virtue of being on the border between two states, Hyderabad becomes a shared capital despite being located well within Telangana. Thus, this does not justify the logic of sharing a capital albeit for a short duration. This leaves scope for operational difficulties. Thus, how practical is it for a state to have a capital that does not lie neither within its boundaries nor along its borders? Question 3 – What constructive measures have you taken to prepare the minds of the people of Andhra Pradesh and Rayalseema to welcome this decision on Telangana? What assurances have you provided to them so as to assuage their anxieties and to take them on board? Where is your “political roadmap†to creating this consensus among the people, all we have here is a “technical process� Question 4 – What commitments are you prepared to make to the people of Telangana, who have already suffered severe trauma over your many betrayals, that you will not take them for a ride one more time? Question 5 – Many youngsters of Telangana have committed suicide. Hyderabad as an investment destination has suffered, the State of Andhra Pradesh has slipped. The state once considered the rice bowl of India has seen agricultural slides making it a State with high farmer suicides. It is indeed ironical that the Congress Party has sought to hide itself behind committees, reports and futile deliberations instead of courageously facing the people of Andhra Pradesh. Neither the Congress President nor the Congress Vice President have set foot into Andhra Pradesh in recent years, despite the fact that Andhra Pradesh sent the highest MPs for the Congress both in 2004 and 2009. Will the Congress leadership not apologise to the people of Andhra Pradesh for treating them like doormats to suit the Congress’ political opportunism? BJP’s Principles for a meaningful roadmap to all regions of Andhra Pradesh » We stand by our commitment to statehood for Telangana. We however believe that the Roadmap should be such that it is a win-win solution to all the people of all regions. Statehood for one region should not be viewed as coming at the expense of another region. » We believe that this is an opportunity for us to develop all the other major Cities of Andhra Pradesh across all regions so Vishakhapatnam, Vijayawada and Guntur, Warangal, Karimnagar and Ongole, Anantpur Kurnool and Kadapa etc. all stand to gain. » We respect the constitution that protects the rights of all citizens. The BJP will take every step to protect persons, families, businesses and assets of all the people of Andhra Pradesh living across regions irrespective where their roots may lie. » We are committed to reviving the economy of all the regions of Andhra Pradesh. Law and order, political stability and a dynamic policy regime will be our priorities. BJP will ensure that the benefits of river water will reach all regions and water resources sharing will be fair, just and equitable. » We are committed to restoring Trust and Confidence once again of all regions. There shall be no more cynical political games and no more betrayals. » We are committed to preserving the shared Telugu cultural heritage of all regions that shall in no way be affected by what is merely an administrative boundary. Telugu culture and pride shall remain boundary-less. This may be the first time a State formed on linguistic basis is being proposed to be divided. It is an emotional moment. Even at this time as the State is being divided, to respect the popular sentiment we bow our heads in respect to martyrs like the late Potti Sreeramulu who sacrificed their lives for the creation of Andhra Pradesh. Inspired by their memory we commit ourselves to work for the progress of all Telugu people in each of these regions. Yours, Narendra Modi
Sachin=GOD Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Desperate situation need desperate measures.... It's still a gamble, could go either way. Might work well as a diversionary tactics also... As it still has to be "ratified" by the Parliament... I think it will definitely work. It looks like TRS will merge with Cong or at least go into the elections in alliance with it so Cong will get substantial numbers in Telengana. In Coastal Andhra/Rayalseema Jagan Reddy was supposed to be a big factor but recent news updates/views all show signs if his popularity slowly fading - maybe its because he's been in jail for so long. So Cong shouldn't do very badly here as well. Overall I don't see Cong losing as many seats as people were earlier saying. As for ratification by Parliament - its a win-win situation for Cong. They have already decided upon the formation of a new state so now it the opposition doesn't allow the passage of the bill then all fault will be passed on to them rather than Cong.
asterix Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 I think it will definitely work. It looks like TRS will merge with Cong or at least go into the elections in alliance with it so Cong will get substantial numbers in Telengana. In Coastal Andhra/Rayalseema Jagan Reddy was supposed to be a big factor but recent news updates/views all show signs if his popularity slowly fading - maybe its because he's been in jail for so long. So Cong shouldn't do very badly here as well. Overall I don't see Cong losing as many seats as people were earlier saying. As for ratification by Parliament - its a win-win situation for Cong. They have already decided upon the formation of a new state so now it the opposition doesn't allow the passage of the bill then all fault will be passed on to them rather than Cong. If its not passed then they'll lose in current AP badly as TRS won't come along,
Sachin=GOD Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 If its not passed then they'll lose in current AP badly as TRS won't come along' date='[/quote'] if its not passed they will definitely get votes in Telegana region because they will target all opposition parties for not supporting the division after Congress had decided in its favor.
asterix Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 if its not passed they will definitely get votes in Telegana region because they will target all opposition parties for not supporting the division after Congress had decided in its favor. Yeah might get few more votes in Telangana but definitely lose out in Andhra... It's akin to clinging to few straw now... People won't get fooled by Congress any more now...
ravishingravi Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah might get few more votes in Telangana but definitely lose out in Andhra... It's akin to clinging to few straw now... People won't get fooled by Congress any more now... Don't be too sure...
Sachin=GOD Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah might get few more votes in Telangana but definitely lose out in Andhra... It's akin to clinging to few straw now... People won't get fooled by Congress any more now... Oh they certainly will be fooled.
King Tendulkar Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah might get few more votes in Telangana but definitely lose out in Andhra... It's akin to clinging to few straw now... People won't get fooled by Congress any more now... :cantstop:
adi B Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah might get few more votes in Telangana but definitely lose out in Andhra... It's akin to clinging to few straw now... People won't get fooled by Congress any more now... educated intellectuals get fooled by con party,the illiterate backward people will most definitely then
CSK Fan Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 educated intellectuals get fooled by con party' date='the illiterate backward people will most definitely then[/quote'] No one gets fooled. Parties and supporters who think voters are fooled are the ones who get their ass handed to them again and again. All parties are useless, voters just chose the least of the evils according to them. No one expects India to turn into Narnia after the next elections
Detonator Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Gujarat CM Narendra Modi shares his thoughts on the issue of statehood for Telangana ahead of his rally in Hyderabad. Dear Brothers and Sisters from all regions of Andhra Pradesh, Namaskaram! I am looking forward to interacting with all of you on 11th August at the Nava Bharath Yuva Bheri Public Rally in Hyderabad. During the public meeting at Hyderabad, I was hoping to share my thoughts on the issue of statehood for Telangana as well as on all of your concerns on a roadmap for all the regions of Andhra Pradesh. However, in the wake of the sequence of events, the Congress Party has done in the last few days what it shied away from doing in the last 9 years- to work overtime on a decision over Telangana. It is an undisputable fact that Congress Party has neither been consistent nor transparent in its conduct over the creation of a Telangana state. Thus, a Party and a Government that has betrayed the people on the issue of Telangana time and again can hardly be trusted on this issue this time around. It is equally true that the BJP has been forthcoming and transparent in its support for statehood to Telangana. The BJP is the only party with the strongest record on the creation of small states. It maybe recalled that it was the NDA Government under the leadership of Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee that created three new states of Chhattisgarh, Uttarakhand (then known as Uttaranchal) and Jharkhand in 2000 thus giving a new ray of hope to the aspirations of the people in these areas. Friends, the same Congress party that won in 2004 on the promise of Telangana has played cynical games with the aspirations and sentiments of the people for nine long years. Now, at a time when there are only a few months left before the people of this country vote again, the Congress Party is rushing to announce Telangana. This raises serious concerns on the seriousness and intentions of the Congress. After winning handsomely in Andhra Pradesh under the leadership of Dr. YS Rajashekhara Reddy in 2004 and 2009, the Congress has turned its back on this state since the former Chief Minister died. In December 2009, the then Home Minister Shri P Chidambaram announced the commencement of the process for statehood to Telangana only to be withdrawn hastily. The Congress party then sought to buy time by creating another committee on the question of Telangana. But, it remained indifferent to the collapse in administration, political violence and the unfortunate specter of suicides by youngsters of Telangana. Meanwhile, governance came to a standstill in Andhra Pradesh. While we welcome any forward movement on the issue of Telangana, we yet again ask how real is the intent of the Congress and the UPA Government this time around. I would like to pose the following questions to the Congress party leadership and the UPA Government. Question 1- Where is your homework in terms of creating consensus in your own party, within the Government and within all political parties on the issue of Telangana when you have been speaking in so many divergent voices ? Question 2- Unlike capital cities that became shared capitals by virtue of being on the border between two states, Hyderabad becomes a shared capital despite being located well within Telangana. Thus, this does not justify the logic of sharing a capital albeit for a short duration. This leaves scope for operational difficulties. Thus, how practical is it for a state to have a capital that does not lie neither within its boundaries nor along its borders? Question 3- What constructive measures have you taken to prepare the minds of the people of Andhra Pradesh and Rayalseema to welcome this decision on Telangana? What assurances have you provided to them so as to assuage their anxieties and to take them on board? Where is your "political roadmap" to creating this consensus among the people, all we have here is a "technical process" ? Question 4- What commitments are you prepared to make to the people of Telangana, who have already suffered severe trauma over your many betrayals, that you will not take them for a ride one more time? Question 5- Many youngsters of Telangana have committed suicide. Hyderabad as an investment destination has suffered, the state of Andhra Pradesh has slipped. The state once considered the rice bowl of India has seen agricultural slides making it a state with high farmer suicides. It is indeed ironical that the Congress Party has sought to hide itself behind committees, reports and futile deliberations instead of courageously facing the people of Andhra Pradesh. Neither the Congress President nor the Congress Vice President have set foot into Andhra Pradesh in recent years, despite the fact that Andhra Pradesh sent the highest MPs for the Congress both in 2004 and 2009. Will the Congress leadership not apologize to the people of Andhra Pradesh for treating them like doormats to suit the Congress' political opportunism? BJP's principles for a meaningful roadmap to all regions of Andhra Pradesh We stand by our commitment to statehood for Telangana. We however believe that the Roadmap should be such that it is a win-win solution to all the people of all regions. Statehood for one region should not be viewed as coming at the expense of another region. We believe that this is an Opportunity for us to develop all the other major Cities of Andhra Pradesh across all regions so Vishakhapatnam, Vijayawada and Guntur, Warangal, Karimnagar and Ongole, Anantpur Kurnool and Kadapa etc. all stand to gain. We respect the Constitution that Protects the Rights of all Citizens. The BJP will take every step to protect persons, families, businesses and assets of all the people of Andhra Pradesh living across regions irrespective where their roots may lie. We are committed to reviving the economy of all the regions of Andhra Pradesh. Law and Order, Political Stability and a Dynamic Policy Regime will be our priorities. BJP will ensure that the benefits of River Water will reach all regions and water resources sharing will be fair, just and equitable. We are committed to restoring Trust and Confidence once again of all regions There shall be no more cynical political games and no more betrayals. We are committed to preserving the shared Telugu cultural heritage of all regions that shall in no way be affected by what is merely an administrative boundary. Telugu Culture and Pride shall remain boundary-less. This may be the first time a state formed on Linguistic basis is being proposed to be divided. It is an emotional moment. Even at this time as the state is being divided, to respect the popular sentiment we bow our heads in respect to martyrs like the late Shri Potti Sreeramulu who sacrificed their lives for the creation of Andhra Pradesh. Inspired by their memory we commit ourselves to work for the progress of all Telugu people in each of these regions. Yours, Narendra Modi
Sachin=GOD Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 fantastic infographic on Telengana by The Hindu: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/article4974483.ece
maniac Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Well Telangana at loss here This reminds me so much of the Partition of Bengal...ATleast there was a religious divide ,here I dont see anything of substance Not painiting a rosy picture here because Poverty exists everywhere, but Andhra definetely has a High % of Rich Farmers due to the fertile land,High % of prosperous NRI's,High % of established businessmen when compared to Telangana. Now that is a good mix of educated elite and rich capitalists capable of generating Jobs both in the Private sector and enough work for Labour. Telangana still has that Feudal mentality in villages ,Now watch these power mongering Feudal lords make hay and abuse power now that they have Political influence to boot People from Andhra Literally made Hyderabad a Big City with all the investments flowing through...Now Their sole focus will be on Andhra which obviously has more potential and watch it boom even more now where as Telangana fall in the hands of Incapable administration. I don't care about the NRI's or the Upper Middle class elite ,who show Telangana Sentiments on the internet because they either won't be impacted or have the right connections to benefit Politically .The the truth is I feel for the Poor Farmer or the labourer .The common middle class man can migrate to other states ,but yeah watch the farmer and Labourere get abused to death.
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