Precambrian Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 There is a definite localisation movement in Bangalore, and that's partly driven by the arrogance and stubbornness of NI settlement here. I have seen NI going into a South Indian restaurant, and asking for Northie food in Hindi. And they act like prima donnas complaining at every small thing. Even racist comments. That's just asking for trouble.
coffee_rules Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Dude. How do u expect a punjabi or bengali to learn Kannada if he is there in bangalore on visit. Its effing bullsh1t that you expect fellow indian to speak rather English than Hindi... I might dislike fellow NIndians for being 'Over the top' n loud but one thing I m proud of them is that we r proud of being Indians n prefer speaking in Hindi with fellow Induans over our local languages like Punjabi,Haryanvi, pahadi etc etc. U telling me that South Indians cant understand Hindi n can speak only English. Wannabees The point was not about Kannada, but at least be practical and talk in English? He was not on a visit, but was trying to find out why his chq from 6 months back was not cleared in his a/c in B'lore. When I visited Kerala, I was asking for directions and tried to talk in Hindi, Tamil and English and finally got what I wanted. I don't know to speak one sentence in Malayalam, except say Shakilye :giggle:. One has got to be practical and don't expect everybody to know Hindi in all parts of India, If you want to get something done, don't sit on a high horse and expect everybody to understand or be in a mood to understand what you are saying. Try some other language whatever you can muster. Somebody in NI said Hindi hamara rashtra bhasha hain..doesn't mean a guy in Kanyakumari studied in Tamil medium since school to understand what that guy from NI wants.
diga Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Why are people mentioning him being a polyglot in a thread on his acting? Thats one reason he gets so many roles
coffee_rules Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Pasmanda zehniyat wale log :mad: Not backward but practical. Don't expect everybody in India to know Hindi even though people in North India (including Bombay) expect Hindi as a National language. Average people in South India hardly know Hindi or know some Hindi words. If you want to get your job done, try to speak whatever you can muster in English and get it done, is my point.
urbestfriend Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Not true anymore. I have seen people talking in kannada in offices. Went to bank on my recent visit' date=' a lady yelled at a North Indian UP bhaiiya, "speak in kannada or English. Nobody knows Hindi here."[/quote'] :hysterical: I haven't come across even one person in Bangalore like this. Most locals have no problem understanding Hindi and speak a bit, they try their best to converse in Hindi with a north indian.
coffee_rules Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 :hysterical: I haven't come across even one person in Bangalore like this. Most locals have no problem understanding Hindi and speak a bit' date=' they try their best to converse in Hindi with a north indian.[/quote'] Yes, true. But I found one lady in a bad mood. It happens. I helped the guy out by translating to that lady. So, it doesn't mean everybody would be ready to do it.
bulbul Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 In Bangalore people know reasonable Hindi , but that doesn't mean they are comfortable talking in Hindi.If some one wants to get some work done he has to adjust not the other way.
coffee_rules Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Dude. How do u expect a punjabi or bengali to learn Kannada if he is there in bangalore on visit. Its effing bullsh1t that you expect fellow indian to speak rather English than Hindi... I might dislike fellow NIndians for being 'Over the top' n loud but one thing I m proud of them is that we r proud of being Indians n prefer speaking in Hindi with fellow Induans over our local languages like Punjabi,Haryanvi, pahadi etc etc. U telling me that South Indians cant understand Hindi n can speak only English. Wannabees In Delhi a few years ago, the customs guy made fun of my SI Hindi accent. When I gave back in English, the officer yelled back..Hindi mein baat karo, yeh India hain.. So, it cuts both ways...
coffee_rules Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Back on topic, PR is supposed to direct Aamir Khan in his tamil remake of Abhiyum Naanum/Aakasamantha in Telugu. He had directed the Kannada remake of that movie. He had acted very well as a doting father of a daughter, celebrating a girl child. Need more such movies for Indians who think less of girl child. Very funny scene at 59:55, when he realizes his daughter has fallen for a sardar! nqGXCWmWDuU&feature=mv_sr
diga Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 In Delhi a few years ago' date=' the customs guy made fun of my SI Hindi accent. When I gave back in English, the officer yelled back..Hindi mein baat karo, yeh India hain.. So, it cuts both ways...[/quote'] :cantstop: Be careful .. you dont want to take panga with Customs
Temujin Khaghan Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 best thing about PR is that he nails down even the accents madurai accent in pokkiri chennai tamil in many movies nellore accent in stalin rayalaseema accent in factionist movies godavari accent in svsc hyderabadi accent in many movies his dialogue delivery is ihs strength, but bit of as overactor... raghuvaran is a class actor with a powerful voice. plays the role of a millionaire/don 1000 times better than PR... but he never showed the range of PR wrt to his roles
randomGuy Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 What is the issue here? The onus is on him to fit in, not the other way around. Tough up on the UP guy if he is there for a visit but whatever, that's life. Try speaking Hindi in Chennai and see how far that gets you. Can tell this even having never visited chennai so far. Probably 95% of all south Indians from Andhra, Karnataka n Kerala whom I have known or talked to, could converse in basic hindi. But with tamilians, some understand Hindi , some do not, but most of them either can't talk or do not want to put in the effort to try n talk in Hindi.
Detonator Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Back on topic, PR is supposed to direct Aamir Khan in his tamil remake of Abhiyum Naanum/Aakasamantha in Telugu. He had directed the Kannada remake of that movie. He had acted very well as a doting father of a daughter, celebrating a girl child. Need more such movies for Indians who think less of girl child. Very funny scene at 59:55, when he realizes his daughter has fallen for a sardar! It's a really nice movie. Credit shld go to Radhamohan :two_thumbs_up:
NareshK Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 He is a good actor but tends to get stereotyped as the typical villain (as it often happens in movies) and given the same roles because director thinks he's a safe bet. In Indian cinema, many directors, actors dont get to show their real talent because commercial cinema puts restrictions on what they can do. There is no audience for alternative cinema in India either. He is very good in Iruvar, Anthapuram etc.
jusarrived Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Abe hero.. Wtf is wrong if any Indian can't speak the local language. Wannabes wud rather speak English than help fellow Indian in Hindi. There is nothing wrong if any Indian expects someone to help them in Hindi First get it in your head that , the way a Local language is difficult for NIs , the same is true for a Local when it comes to Hindi . A large majority do speak Hindi , they make an effort ..but the reverse is not true ..thats where the irritation comes from . Idiots even make fun of Locals who speak Hindi but with an accent ..thats really ****ed up .
Detonator Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 First get it in your head that , the way a Local language is difficult for NIs , the same is true for a Local when it comes to Hindi . A large majority do speak Hindi , they make an effort ..but the reverse is not true ..thats where the irritation comes from . Idiots even make fun of Locals who speak Hindi but with an accent ..thats really ****ed up . Calm down :ohmy: It's true that the some hindi speakers make fun of accent in TN. Most of them have no idea abt TN geography or history (some even call the whole TN as "Chennai"), so at first they get uncomfortable. I have frnds from many non-tamizh speaking states, they have struggled at first but they learnt basic tamizh after a yr or so. I have met some of their parents and friends as well (some invited to their home for functions, so I ve been to cities like jamshedpur, surat, jalandhar) they are very friendly and they even tried to grasp some tamizh words from me for no reason. U can't judge the northies as whole based on few ppl.
randomGuy Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 First get it in your head that ' date=' the way a Local language is difficult for NIs , the same is true for a Local when it comes to Hindi . A large majority do speak Hindi , they make an effort ..[b']but the reverse is not true ..thats where the irritation comes from . Idiots even make fun of Locals who speak Hindi but with an accent ..thats really ****ed up . This expectation isn't most reasonable imo. The difference, as you know, between Hindi and South Indian languages is that Hindi is understood by probably 80% of India, but South Indian languages are understood in 1 state. If I was from one of the south states, I would like if the local language vocab dilutes and more Hindi/English words get used in common usage.
Brainfade Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 Calm down :ohmy: It's true that the some hindi speakers make fun of accent in TN. Most of them have no idea abt TN geography or history (some even call the whole TN as "Chennai"), so at first they get uncomfortable. I have frnds from many non-tamizh speaking states, they have struggled at first but they learnt basic tamizh after a yr or so. I have met some of their parents and friends as well (some invited to their home for functions, so I ve been to cities like jamshedpur, surat, jalandhar) they are very friendly and they even tried to grasp some tamizh words from me for no reason. U can't judge the northies as whole based on few ppl. On a side-note, my Marwari friend who grew up in the Tamizh-part of Bengaluru (Ulsoor side) spoke flawless Tamizh. He put me, whose mother-tongue is Tamizh, to shame. He couldn't speak a lick's worth of Kannada, though.
hhunaeh Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 If I was from one of the south states, I would like if the local language vocab dilutes and more Hindi/English words get used in common usage. Why should a south indian want this?
Detonator Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 On a side-note' date=' my Marwari friend who grew up in the Tamizh-part of Bengaluru (Ulsoor side) spoke flawless Tamizh. He put me, whose mother-tongue is Tamizh, to shame. He couldn't speak a lick's worth of Kannada, though.[/quote'] :hahaha: Happens though. I too have a similar experiance. A gujju girl who grew up in coimbatore (my city :proud: ) explained me the tamizh term "kuduthu vachavan da nee". It means that I have given alms to brahma in my previous life, which the God returns favour in this life. literally "brahma kitta kuduthu vachavan". turns out to be true. I was using the term for yrs without knowledge.:giggle: She speaks the pure language, be it tamizh, hindi, english or gujrathi and she doesn't mix up languages. Not just prakash raj is a good polygot.
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