Test Matches - Sir Jadeja or Ojha ?

[rkt.india]

RJ will be in the 1st XI let alone squad. I think Ojha can be in the squad too. SA pitches are not what they once were, likely that one or two grounds will have a bit in it for spinners. We are not going to go in with 4 pace men in a playing XI unless its really green and hard, so itll be 3 pacemen RJ and Ashwin, if god forbid Ashwin gets injured well need spin backjup. The squad will be a 16 man one…

We are playing test matches at Wnderers which will be a green track and Durban was green tack last time we toured since then it has been changed by local franchisee due to entrance of Tahir in their FC setup, but we might see it back to its traditional nature this time.

[vvvslaxman]

IT is difficult to pick who is the very best. Jadeja is only 5 tests old where as Ashwin and Ojha have played more tests. Jadeja could be an utter flop in the next series. Who knows. Ojha si better on a turning wicket, Ashwin is better on a bouncing wicket, Jadeja is dangerous on slowish wickets.

[Old guy]

Pick on form...

[vvvslaxman]

Pick on form...

Ashwin's dip in form will not viewed harshly as he can bat better than the inexperienced top order batsmen we have. For a considerable period of time he will be an integral part of India . Unless he becomes extremely bad like Bhajji was for a while, he will be given a run. As far as Jaddu goes he will fill the 5th bowler quota. Ojha will have to consider himself very unlucky.

[Old guy]

Ashwin's dip in form will not viewed harshly as he can bat better than the inexperienced top order batsmen we have. For a considerable period of time he will be an integral part of India . Unless he becomes extremely bad like Bhajji was for a while' date=' he will be given a run. As far as Jaddu goes he will fill the 5th bowler quota. Ojha will have to consider himself very unlucky.[/quote'] Ashwin will always play as he is off spinner and all rounder but jaddu and ojha will depend on form even though jaddu is better fielder and batsman I don't think there is huge difference and it matters now with both bhuvan and shami able to hang around

[fineleg]

^ what hang around? That was windies in indian pitch. Bhuvi (despite no mug with bat) and shami cannot hang around in SA against steyn, morkel and philander

[Old guy]

^ what hang around? That was windies in indian pitch. Bhuvi (despite no mug with bat) and shami cannot hang around in SA against steyn, morkel and philander

and jadeja can ? he could not even hang around in india and bhuvi did same against australia

[Soorma_Bhopali]

sir jaddu should get chance in test he made 3 triple century in first class carrier

Agreed ..but currently his test average is 19.8 , way less than Ashwin who is at 43+ ..Ashwin looks a far assured batsmen than Jadeja or even Dhoni in Test matches , not only in India ..but even in Australia and England .. He needs to start scoring runs consistently as we can't play him just as a bowler ..HE GETS INTO THE TEAM ONLY DUE TO HIS COMPLETE PACKAGE AS GOOD SLA BOWLER + GOOD 6tH/7th BATSMEN + OUTSTANDING FIELDER ..he needs to be the sixth batsmen also to bring balance to the side .:icflove: IF he does not perform with the bat even after 3 triple centuries in FC , then everyone will know what was the true worth of those on Rajkot pata wicket a even Amit Mishra has a 200+ double-hundred , Piyush Chawla and Bhuvi also have FC hundreds ..Quality of the attack and pitch are questionable

[Old guy]

Agreed ..but currently his test average is 19.8 , way less than Ashwin who is at 43+ ..Ashwin looks a far assured batsmen than Jadeja or even Dhoni in Test matches , not only in India ..but eve in Australia and England .. He needs to start scoring runs consistently as we can't play him just as a bowler ..he needs to be the sixth batsmen also to bring balance to the side .:icflove:

nope.. he should concentrate on bowling and play at number 8.. expecting him to do well at 7 will be madness specially away from home. we need proper batsman at 6 and dhoni at 7 and 3 quick bowlers and spinner..

[Detonator]

Ojha deserves to be in XI for SA tour. It would be unfair to drop him. But that would force ashwin to bat @ 7, which imo is not good.

[Soorma_Bhopali]

nope.. he should concentrate on bowling and play at number 8.. expecting him to do well at 7 will be madness specially away from home. we need proper batsman at 6 and dhoni at 7 and 3 quick bowlers and spinner..

So a three time triple -centrion in Ranji Trophy does not count as "Proper Batsmen" for you ????:omg: FYI : Jadeja started more as a batsmen who could bowl types ..it's his first season in intl cricket ..I don't think his bowling will be enough to warrant him a place in the Test XI just as a bowler ..he may not have so good a happy hunting time as he had with Australia at home ..he needs to be a Good SLA Bowler AND a middle-order batsmen good enough to bat at no.6 OTherwise, I see Ojha taking his place in Test XI

[King Tendulkar]

So a three time triple -centrion in Ranji Trophy does not count as "Proper Batsmen" for you ????:omg: FYI : Jadeja started more as a batsmen who could bowl types ..it's his first season in intl cricket ..I don't think his bowling will be enough to warrant him a place in the Test XI just as a bowler ..he may not have so good a happy hunting time as he had with Australia at home ..he needs to be a Good SLA Bowler AND a middle-order batsmen good enough to bat at no.6 OTherwise, I see Ojha taking his place in Test XI

If only hings were that simple and one could just number crunch and pick on that basis. Life so easy then i.e guys scores triple ton in ranji so can bat 6 in international cricket away to SA and Steyn and co. Alas things a tad more complicated then that

[Soorma_Bhopali]

If only hings were that simple and one could just number crunch and pick on that basis. Life so easy then i.e guys scores triple ton in ranji so can bat 6 in international cricket away to SA and Steyn and co. Alas things a tad more complicated then that

Agreed ..but we have Dhoni,Ashwin and Jadeja as "Almost" batsmen all-rounders ..Therefore , i don't think we need some pure batsmen like Rahane at no.6 and disturb the balance of the team with 4 bowlers ..I would play 5 batsmen , w/k , 3 pure bowlers, 2 bowling all-rounders ( Ashwin and Jadeja) in ALL CONDITIONS ..one of Dhoni/Ashwin or Jadeja will be bound to succeed in every innings ( LAws of probability :two_thumbs_up:) and that will serve as our 6th batsma:weights:n

[King Tendulkar]

^ way to brave Dhoni and jadeja could be walking wickets Bits and pieces players get you no were in test cricket

[Lord]

and jadeja can ? he could not even hang around in india and bhuvi did same against australia

did Ashwin hang around v Australia,when they toured us?he had even poorer series with the bat than Jaddu you cant see on that one series,Jaddu is surely a better batsman than BK and Shami

[Old guy]

did Ashwin hang around v Australia,when they toured us?he had even poorer series with the bat than Jaddu you cant see on that one series,Jaddu is surely a better batsman than BK and Shami

i never said he is not but we do not really need all rounder we need proper bowler cos our tail can wag and ashwin did hang around in australia vs australia so there is ability btw ashwin has looked better than jadeja in whatever tests he played there is no question in my mind he is better batsman and 3 big 100's on road against b grade sides would not change that

[Lord]

i never said he is not but we do not really need all rounder we need proper bowler cos our tail can wag and ashwin did hang around in australia vs australia so there is ability btw ashwin has looked better than jadeja in whatever tests he played there is no question in my mind he is better batsman and 3 big 100's on road against b grade sides would not change that

In tests(and ODIs) played together,Jaddu has looked better,its not fault he doesnt get to play poor team like WI :--D Jadeja has done okay so far.needs proper chance in tests before we write him off. nobody scores triple hundreds on greentops.3 triple tons is not so easy.only 9 players have done it and almost have done well in intl. cricket as well.yet we ridicule only Jadeja's tons I'm not saying he'll necessarily do great,but atleast deserves the chance

[adi B]

^ way to brave Dhoni and jadeja could be walking wickets Bits and pieces players get you no were in test cricket

how about this :winky: play 6 bowlers dhawan nohit chepu kohli dhoni jadeja ashwin bhuvi shami yadav zak

[Old guy]

In tests(and ODIs) played together,Jaddu has looked better,its not fault he doesnt get to play poor team like WI :--D Jadeja has done okay so far.needs proper chance in tests before we write him off. nobody scores triple hundreds on greentops.3 triple tons is not so easy.only 9 players have done it and almost have done well in intl. cricket as well.yet we ridicule only Jadeja's tons I'm not saying he'll necessarily do great,but atleast deserves the chance

no he looked awful in tests i do not know which matches u saw but he was utterly clueless even about his off stump... dude its misleading to say just 9 players did when 80 percent of them came in very recent past and out of all 300 scored in last 5-6 years i think majority of them have come at rajkot:hysterical: all i said is pick ojha or jaddu based on bowling form and not just cos jaddu can supposedly bat..after all bowlers win matches and its not like we have 5 bowlers we are talking about picking 4 bowlers so in my mind there is no question about how selection criteria should be .. if jaddu is in form too and ojha out of form then pick jaddu but not when ojha just picked 10 wickets

[Lord]

no he looked awful in tests i do not know which matches u saw but he was utterly clueless even about his off stump... dude its misleading to say just 9 players did when 80 percent of them came in very recent past and out of all 300 scored in last 5-6 years i think majority of them have come at rajkot:hysterical: all i said is pick ojha or jaddu based on bowling form and not just cos jaddu can supposedly bat..after all bowlers win matches and its not like we have 5 bowlers we are talking about picking 4 bowlers so in my mind there is no question about how selection criteria should be .. if jaddu is in form too and ojha out of form then pick jaddu but not when ojha just picked 10 wickets

he scored a very good 40 odd at a square turner in Delhi IIRC in Aus series. anyway as I said hes not had enough chances to judge yet imo. no other 9 players all have not come in recent past.only Hussey and Pujara.both are good too. If Jaddu can provide that extra batting cushion,then whats the problem.Its not like Ojha got wickets and Jaddu got smashed.He just didnt play v WI,we can never say how he'd have done.