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Mosher Grand Master

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4 hours ago, Suhaan said:

@express bowling

@Mosher

@rkt.india

 

What do you think?

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/umran-malik-given-fast-bowling-contract-with-an-eye-on-australia-101710345357109.html

 

 


This is good to see and a step in the right direction.. Hope talents like Harshit, Mayank and Tyagi also get fast bowling contracts soon. 

 

“What he has is rare ability. He will develop other skills with time but what is currently expected of him is to consistently bowl fast and build long spells,” a BCCI official said.

 

Saying the right things too. 

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Suhaan said:

@express bowling

@Mosher

@rkt.india

 

What do you think?

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/umran-malik-given-fast-bowling-contract-with-an-eye-on-australia-101710345357109.html

 

 

Good that he is considered for red ball as well. It's been an year since he played for India in any format despite giving decent performance. Hopefully he don't let this opportunity slip from his hands.

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

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7 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

5ks isn't much ,he just a bit quicker.

127-138 is range of Mukesh, but he bowls mostly around 130-131 avg pace.

Akash bowled 136-145...avg pace maybe around 138-139.

 

He was consistently 8kph fast on an average from Mukesh in terms of release speed. On top of that even Mukesh's 138 kph deliveries don't have much zip and tends to die down in comparison to Akash when ball reach the batter.

 

The same difference is with prime Umesh & Shami. Umesh was quicker than Shami, but on latter's deliveries batters always seem rushed to the shot. Akash has that quality.

 

 

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

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21 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

I would rather look at Harshit, Mayank and kartik for Australia than Umran.

If I am being honest, I am worried about him.

Harshit & Mayank are backed by their state boards atleast. UPCA don't care about him. They are happy promoting Yash Dayal, Ankit Rajpoot, Vinit Panwar & Aaqib Khan.

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rkt.india Grand Master

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4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

If I am being honest, I am worried about him.

Harshit & Mayank are backed by their state boards atleast. UPCA don't care about him. They are happy promoting Yash Dayal, Ankit Rajpoot, Vinit Panwar & Aaqib Khan.

Kartik did play several match in VH trophy and SMA trophy. Currently he is seen as more a short form bowler than FC bowler by UP, maybe because of injury issues. 

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Suhaan Grand Master

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6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Not Mayank, he plays for Delhi whenever he is fit.

 

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank is on everyone's radar. Both Agarkar as well as DDCA.

 

And he plays for Delhi whenever he is fit. Played for North Zone too. 

Mayank had a stupendous SMAT,we all know that

His injury is keeping him away from atleast A tour/games

Not his fault but untimely injury just before last IPL also didn't help him

DDCA is best known to tap into fast bowling resources at their disposal but I don't think that is enough candidate is himself injured at crucial junctures

Tyagis case is reverse he doesn't get to play much for UP Ranji side,he gets chances in Lois though

He was simultaneously on fire this SMAT as well

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express bowling Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Tyagi,had he played 5-6 games this season and had  decent amount of under his belt would have helped him quite more with his approach to the crease even more

The fast nature of T20 cricket doesn't give much time to the bowler, something just hits them before they realise or make adjustments

 

 

Tyagi needs to play Ranjj Trophy. 

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tapandrun Mentor

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UPCA was not happy with Kartik from his U19, he was mostly in NCA when they wanted him, he kept asking to UPCA to write letters for NCA and then he was always available for IPL teams.

 

Not sure of his potential but he should be available to play, Yes UP is stacked with exp. fast bowlers but he need to make a mark in whatever matches he gets.

 

He is sitting on benches in IPL ,setting out of playing 11 in domestic wont help. TM and selectors are already not picking faster bowlers and they are not making it harder to not to pick faster pacers.

 

All faster bowlers are falling into that category, if they can not make it to the team when there are only 2 bowlers left in Ind intnl then it would become impossible.

 

Umran, Karthik, Sen, Yadav, Harsit etc.. they all nned to make some noice, make some headlines for +ive reasons.  

 

Not sure where is Mukesh Choudhary and Simranjeet are, Mohsin played this season but was not at the same level with his bowling and fitness.

fitness could because he is just recovering.

 

Harshit was in emerging Asia cup he should have taken the opportunity against Pak, but he looked slower than usual.

 

Prashid Krishna is injured again ---???

 

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

UPCA was not happy with Kartik from his U19, he was mostly in NCA when they wanted him, he kept asking to UPCA to write letters for NCA and then he was always available for IPL teams.

 

Not sure of his potential but he should be available to play, Yes UP is stacked with exp. fast bowlers but he need to make a mark in whatever matches he gets.

 

He is sitting on benches in IPL ,setting out of playing 11 in domestic wont help. TM and selectors are already not picking faster bowlers and they are not making it harder to not to pick faster pacers.

 

All faster bowlers are falling into that category, if they can not make it to the team when there are only 2 bowlers left in Ind intnl then it would become impossible.

 

Umran, Karthik, Sen, Yadav, Harsit etc.. they all nned to make some noice, make some headlines for +ive reasons.  

 

Not sure where is Mukesh Choudhary and Simranjeet are, Mohsin played this season but was not at the same level with his bowling and fitness.

fitness could because he is just recovering.

 

Harshit was in emerging Asia cup he should have taken the opportunity against Pak, but he looked slower than usual.

 

Prashid Krishna is injured again ---???

 

Actually Tyagi was only available in 2020 IPL properly.

2021 he missed due to injury..he didn't play there at all.

2022 he recovered before IPL, played few games and then again went out holding his shoulders.

 

Late 2022 onwards, his fitness improved. He played domestics, played IPL, played UPT20 league, played SMAT & VHT as well. His name was selected in Ranji probables tells us that he was fit this season (coz last year both Tyagi & Mohsin were marked subject to fitness).

 

Mukesh & Simarjeet both are lost cause. Sen is not playing regularly post his 2022 injury. Although Harshit has been playing and even Mayank is in scheme of things. Hopefully we see both of them in IPL as last season Mayank missed entirely.

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