Vk1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: No floaty trundlers like sandeep sharma just because they swing the ball please. They are not test class. Period. Bhuvi hits the deck harder than that guy and hes nowhere in contention. Selectors need to back the likes of Prasidh or Porel or some of these guys test bowling is not always about class.. it also has got a lot to do with the conditions.. how on earth can you explain Joe root picking 5/8 against the best batsmen of spin? In Eng, even military medium bowlers do reasonably well in helpful conditions.. a skillful bowler like Sandeep will probably do well in select venues like Lords Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Vk1 said: test bowling is not always about class.. it also has got a lot to do with the conditions.. how on earth can you explain Joe root picking 5/8 against the best batsmen of spin? In Eng, even military medium bowlers do reasonably well in helpful conditions.. a skillful bowler like Sandeep will probably do well in select venues like Lords I think Siraj and Shardul can be good swing bowlers in England. They can swing the ball at a higher pace and can get seam movement and bounce too ( while Sandeep is dependant on only swing ) Mosher and Forward Defence 2 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, express bowling said: I think Siraj and Shardul can be good swing bowlers in England. They can swing the ball at a higher pace and can get seam movement and bounce too ( while Sandeep is dependant on only swing ) I remember lot of games in IPL where Sandeep swings it really well and makes best of the batsman hop around ( he ofcourse is totally useless after the new white ball ).. he is a very skillful bowler specially suited to play in Eng alone and that too with the duke red ball Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Vk1 said: I remember lot of games in IPL where Sandeep swings it really well and makes best of the batsman hop around ( he ofcourse is totally useless after the new white ball ).. he is a very skillful bowler specially suited to play in Eng alone and that too with the duke red ball You need to understand t20 cricket is different ball game, field setting is defensive and ei kets fall due to batsmen taking chances,rven the caught behinds batsmen try to glide most of thrm to third man,scoops,ramp shots and what not Im not saying test cricket is all about pace only,but you need to pick wickets there by playing on the patience of batsmen with relentless bowling with aggressive field settings express bowling 1 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Suhaan said: You need to understand t20 cricket is different ball game, field setting is defensive and ei kets fall due to batsmen taking chances,rven the caught behinds batsmen try to glide most of thrm to third man,scoops,ramp shots and what not Im not saying test cricket is all about pace only,but you need to pick wickets there by playing on the patience of batsmen with relentless bowling with aggressive field settings agree but strange things happen in Eng when conditions are favorable.. we dont see that anywhere else in overseas.. and after this series we can expect Eng to make pitches difficult for our batsmen Edited March 1, 2021 by Vk1 Link to comment
Nero Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Vilander said: Nah man its pakistani speed guns like bottle caps it will be rigged everyone knows it.. its OK dude don't try hard. Nothing wrong with speed guns.Shaheen does bowl fast in T20s.In tests his first spell is at good pace but after that his pace drops.Rauf,Nadeem,Dilbar have played in Australia and the Australian speed guns showed they are quick.Rauf can bowl odd deliveries close to 150. Link to comment
Nero Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 17 hours ago, Jay said: East or West, phaassr bowler from the green nation is the best. Sami used to bowl at 145+kmh consistently often around 148.Zahid was one of the quickest but there were speed guns in those days.Brian Lara and many others said he was the quickest bowler they faced.Speed is not everything.Skill is very imortant.A 140kmh with skill is better than an erratic one who bowls at 150 Indwin 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Nero said: Sami used to bowl at 145+kmh consistently often around 148.Zahid was one of the quickest but there were speed guns in those days.Brian Lara and many others said he was the quickest bowler they faced.Speed is not everything.Skill is very imortant.A 140kmh with skill is better than an erratic one who bowls at 150 Bumrah and Cummins even when the hole below 140 it looks fast, threatening and dangerous. It's due to their release point and bounce they create due to their actions especially bumrah. Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) Fastest balls by Indians in IPL 2019 and 2018 below .... So we see that Indian pacers with ability to bowl 147 k+ are ... Team India pacers ---- Saini Bumrah Shami Umesh Aaron Siraj Newbies ---- Prasidh Mavi Avesh Tyagi Nagarkoti Choosing the wicket takers and skilful pacers among this lot can reap richer rewards for us. I hope Siraj gets this ability back ASAP. POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 NavdeepSaini 152.85 2 Navdeep Saini 152.83 3 Navdeep Saini 152.48 4 Navdeep Saini 152.47 5 Navdeep Saini 151.98 6 Umesh Yadav 151.44 7 Ishant Sharma 151.34 8 Navdeep Saini 151.14 9 Navdeep Saini 150.99 10 Navdeep Saini 150.90 11 Navdeep Saini 150.76 12 Navdeep Saini 150.75 13 Mohammad Shami 150.65 14 Jasprit Bumrah 150.41 15 Varun Aaron 150.31 16 Navdeep Saini 150.27 17 Navdeep Saini 150.26 18 Prasidh Krishna 150.22 19 Navdeep Saini 150.20 20 Prasidh Krishna 150.20 21 Prasidh Krishna 150.19 22 Navdeep Saini 150.04 23 Varun Aaron 150.02 24 Navdeep Saini 149.99 25 Prasidh Krishna 149.80 26 Ishant Sharma 149.72 27 Navdeep Saini 149.71 28 Jasprit Bumrah 149.69 29 Navdeep Saini 149.63 30 Navdeep Saini 149.56 31 Navdeep Saini 149.50 32 Navdeep Saini 149.42 33 Navdeep Saini 149.39 34 Navdeep Saini 149.32 35 Prasidh Krishna 149.29 36 Jasprit Bumrah 149.28 37 Navdeep Saini 149.28 38 Prasidh Krishna 149.23 39 Jasprit Bumrah 149.06q MohammedSiraj POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 MohammedSiraj 149.94 2 Shivam Mavi 149.86 3 Shivam Mavi 149.85 4 Barinder Sran 149.34 5 Avesh Khan 149.12 6 Umesh Yadav 148.98 7 Avesh Khan 148.74 8 Jasprit Bumrah 148.15 9 Mohammed Siraj 148.08 10 Umesh Yadav 148.03 11 Jasprit Bumrah 147.95 12 Mohammed Siraj 147.79 13 Siddarth Kaul 147.72 14 Jasprit Bumrah 147.71 15 Jasprit Bumrah 147.60 16 Jasprit Bumrah 147.57 17 Jasprit Bumrah 147.34 18 Mohammed Siraj 147.19 19 Umesh Yadav 147.13 20 Shivam Mavi 146.98 21 Shivam Mavi 146.97 22 Jasprit Bumrah 146.88 23 Shivam Mavi 146.79 24 Shivam Mavi 146.70 25 Mohammed Siraj 146.69 26 Jasprit Bumrah 146.67 POS 1494 Edited March 2, 2021 by express bowling Forward Defence and Mosher 2 Link to comment
wc2023 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Fastest balls by Indians in IPL 2019 and 2018 below .... So we see that Indian pacers with ability to bowl 147 k+ are ... Team India pacers ---- Saini Bumrah Shami Umesh Aaron Siraj Newbies ---- Prasidh Mavi Avesh Tyagi Nagarkoti Choosing the wicket takers and skilful pacers among this lot can reap richer rewards for us. I hope Siraj gets this ability back ASAP. POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 NavdeepSaini 152.85 2 Navdeep Saini 152.83 3 Navdeep Saini 152.48 4 Navdeep Saini 152.47 5 Navdeep Saini 151.98 6 Umesh Yadav 151.44 7 Ishant Sharma 151.34 8 Navdeep Saini 151.14 9 Navdeep Saini 150.99 10 Navdeep Saini 150.90 11 Navdeep Saini 150.76 12 Navdeep Saini 150.75 13 Mohammad Shami 150.65 14 Jasprit Bumrah 150.41 15 Varun Aaron 150.31 16 Navdeep Saini 150.27 17 Navdeep Saini 150.26 18 Prasidh Krishna 150.22 19 Navdeep Saini 150.20 20 Prasidh Krishna 150.20 21 Prasidh Krishna 150.19 22 Navdeep Saini 150.04 23 Varun Aaron 150.02 24 Navdeep Saini 149.99 25 Prasidh Krishna 149.80 26 Ishant Sharma 149.72 27 Navdeep Saini 149.71 28 Jasprit Bumrah 149.69 29 Navdeep Saini 149.63 30 Navdeep Saini 149.56 31 Navdeep Saini 149.50 32 Navdeep Saini 149.42 33 Navdeep Saini 149.39 34 Navdeep Saini 149.32 35 Prasidh Krishna 149.29 36 Jasprit Bumrah 149.28 37 Navdeep Saini 149.28 38 Prasidh Krishna 149.23 39 Jasprit Bumrah 149.06q MohammedSiraj POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 MohammedSiraj 149.94 2 Shivam Mavi 149.86 3 Shivam Mavi 149.85 4 Barinder Sran 149.34 5 Avesh Khan 149.12 6 Umesh Yadav 148.98 7 Avesh Khan 148.74 8 Jasprit Bumrah 148.15 9 Mohammed Siraj 148.08 10 Umesh Yadav 148.03 11 Jasprit Bumrah 147.95 12 Mohammed Siraj 147.79 13 Siddarth Kaul 147.72 14 Jasprit Bumrah 147.71 15 Jasprit Bumrah 147.60 16 Jasprit Bumrah 147.57 17 Jasprit Bumrah 147.34 18 Mohammed Siraj 147.19 19 Umesh Yadav 147.13 20 Shivam Mavi 146.98 21 Shivam Mavi 146.97 22 Jasprit Bumrah 146.88 23 Shivam Mavi 146.79 24 Shivam Mavi 146.70 25 Mohammed Siraj 146.69 26 Jasprit Bumrah 146.67 POS 1494 Good speeds bro.What speeds tyagi and Nagerkoti were bowling in ipl Real McCoy and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, wc2023 said: Good speeds bro.What speeds tyagi and Nagerkoti were bowling in ipl IPL 2020, Tyagi bowled a fastest of 148.4 kph with lots of balls in the 145 k+ range. Nagarkoti is coming back from injury but he bowled quite a few 144 k to 146 k deliveries. Edited March 2, 2021 by express bowling wc2023, Suhaan and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
the don Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 3 hours ago, express bowling said: IPL 2020, Tyagi bowled a fastest of 148 kph with lots of balls in the 145 k+ range. Nagarkoti is coming back from injury but he bowled quite a few 144 k to 146 k deliveries. @express bowling can you please share a list for the last IPL season? Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, the don said: @express bowling can you please share a list for the last IPL season? In the last IPL season, Nortje, Ferguson and Archer bowled so many deliveries at 149 k to 153 k that most other bowlers bowling 147 k + were left out of the list of 100 fastest balls. Off the top of my head, the quickest balls bowled by Indians were Saini 149 k Bumrah. 149 k Tyagi. 148 k Prasidh. 148 k Mavi. 147 k Shami. 146 k Nagarkoti 146 k Siraj. 146 k Edited March 2, 2021 by express bowling wc2023, Suhaan and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
the don Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: In the last IPL season, Nortje, Ferguson and Archer bowled so many deliveries at 149 k to 153 k that all other bowlers bowling 147 k + were left out of the list of 100 fastest balls. Off the top of my head, the quickest balls bowled by Indians were Saini 149 k Bumrah. 149 k Tyagi. 148 k Prasidh. 148 k Mavi. 147 k Shami. 146 k Nagarkoti 146 k Siraj. 146 k Thanks express bowling 1 Link to comment
the don Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 151.1 kph from hasnain 148 kph naseem Pakistan lucky to have three really young express bowlers in shaheen, hasnain and naseem. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
the don Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 152.6 kph from Muhammad hasnain. Stirling's top hand came off the handle. Seriously quick bowling Link to comment
wc2023 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) Hasnain bowled with good pace in today's match Edited March 2, 2021 by wc2023 Typo Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Darra Adam Khel produced guns O my bad the Sapeed Guns express bowling 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, the don said: 152.6 kph from Muhammad hasnain. Stirling's top hand came off the handle. Seriously quick bowling How do these bowlers start bowling 20k's slower in international matches? I mean one thing is clear, even if they are touching these speeds genuinely, they cant sustain this in a test match or even ODI. Dont recall seeing Pakistani bowlers maintaining such speeds in international matches, tbh. Suhaan, Mosher, RAZPOR and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Rightarmfast said: How do these bowlers start bowling 20k's slower in international matches? I mean one thing is clear, even if they are touching these speeds genuinely, they cant sustain this in a test match or even ODI. Dont recall seeing Pakistani bowlers maintaining such speeds in international matches, tbh. Its flavour of each season Rightarmfast and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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