Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[SRT100]

3 minutes ago, speedracer said:

Ask your Oz boys about facing fast bowlers in the nets. It is downright scary. There are a whole bunch of interviews. This is for pro athletes. 

No one is not saying its not intimidating, but its not even in the same league as other sports.

[speedracer]

1 minute ago, SRT100 said:

If youre going to get personal I will ask did your mother drop you on your head at birth? If youre going to continue to communicate in a stupid manner.

 

Indians unfortunately the vast majority are physically weak individuals. Its not something I am happy about, but it is what it is. Thats not to say there are exceptions, sure i have seen huge and very strong Indians, but for the most case, they are not this way. The minority does make it the rule.

 

Youre just pissed because your argument you made about cricket viewed by Americans is from their perspective valid. Not to mention you are only highlighting one small aspect of cricket, fast bowling that can be intimidating, for the most part, cricket is a docile sport.

Vast majority of veggie Indians are weak because od their piss poor diet. I know plenty of strong tough Indians. Not exceptions. Seen far too many. Many wrestlers from India are extremely strong and well built. 

 

Average Indian eats like trash hence a trash physique. When they have access to proper diet and exercise I have seen plenty of well built Indians. 

 

Yes fast bowling is intimidating. Not for amateurs. Even for smlth Smith who almost died at the hands of joffra. It's not fun getting hit by a ball aimed at your body around 140 plus speed. It's not. 

[SRT100]

1 minute ago, speedracer said:

Lol kumite is not karate. Kumite is full contact buddy. 84+. Everyone cuts weight to 84. No one is 84. Everyone cuts between 15-20 pounds or more. So everyone is actually close to a heavyweight.

Rohit sharm is a fat blub at 90. 

Have you seen a yoel romero in mma. That's a 90 kilo guy for example. 

 

90 kg at 6'2 is nothing though unless you carry low body fat.

 You sound kind of ignorant, where did I say Kumite is not Karate.

 

You can talk tough behind a keyboard and pretend youre a warrior, the reality is youve exposed yourself and that you think fast bowling is more intimidating than other contact sports.

 

At 6ft2 90kg I am lean, Ive always been around 12% body fat and Ive had a DEXA scan as well. I was born in Australia, so naturally I wasnt raised on a diet of butter chicken, pappadums and roti like yourself.

[speedracer]

4 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

No one is not saying its not intimidating, but its not even in the same league as other sports.

You have to face a fast bowler at some point. Nets or real game. Broken finger, elbows, broken bones, concussion are all possible. You have to eventually face them in the game. 

[SRT100]

2 minutes ago, speedracer said:

Vast majority of veggie Indians are weak because od their piss poor diet. I know plenty of strong tough Indians. Not exceptions. Seen far too many. Many wrestlers from India are extremely strong and well built. 

 

Average Indian eats like trash hence a trash physique. When they have access to proper diet and exercise I have seen plenty of well built Indians. 

 

Yes fast bowling is intimidating. Not for amateurs. Even for smlth Smith who almost died at the hands of joffra. It's not fun getting hit by a ball aimed at your body around 140 plus speed. It's not. 

Do you see how your contradict yourself where you admit the vast majority of Indians are weak, which is what I have stated all along.

Ive got nothing more to say.

[speedracer]

8 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 You sound kind of ignorant, where did I say Kumite is not Karate.

 

You can talk tough behind a keyboard and pretend youre a warrior, the reality is youve exposed yourself and that you think fast bowling is more intimidating than other contact sports.

 

At 6ft2 90kg I am lean, Ive always been around 12% body fat and Ive had a DEXA scan as well. I was born in Australia, so naturally I wasnt raised on a diet of butter chicken, pappadums and roti like yourself.

I stick to a western diet though?  Meat veggies brown rice. I don't eat curry. 

 

I dont need to pretend to be tough though? 

 

Again let me rephrase it for you. Kumite is full contact. The touch butt fake Karate you competed in is not full contact. Full contact. You know, where knock outs happen. 

Edited January 4, 2023 by speedracer

[Lone Wolf]

Ajay Jadeja as Chief selector anybody

 

[SRT100]

4 minutes ago, speedracer said:

I stick to a western diet though?  Meat veggies brown rice. I don't eat curry. 

 

I dont need to pretend to be tough though? 

 

Again let me rephrase it for you. Kumite is full contact. The touch butt fake Karate you competed in is not full contact. Full contact. You know, where knock outs happen. 

 

Which backward country do you live in because your parents should get a refund for your education. Ive never heard you once mention this "country".

 

I said it earlier Ive done TKD, Karate, Ju Jitsu,Thai Kick Boxing, Krav Maga and Boxing. Its almost like you cannot fall an argument or discussion. Which seems to me suggests youre a teenager.

 

You make "foreign comments perspective" on here as if you live in some Western country, but you actually come across as someone that has  genuinely watched too much TV in India from the US.

 

Why I am getting frustrated with your posts, is because you done this a few times in different topics, but you strike as someone who has either lived a very closed sheltered life outside of India or live in India and feel the need to pretend.

 

In many ways, I actually empathize with you and shouldnt call you out on it. Youve joined this forum just three weeks ago. I wish you all the best.

[SRT100]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Ajay Jadeja as Chief selector anybody

 

 

Highly recommend watching Cricbuzz discussion on the after match of the SL game.

[speedracer]

@SRT100 you are a big guy. I am a Big guy. We are Indians. My point was to do with how merican rednecks perceive the sport to be a sissy one. That's all. Getting hit by a cricket ball bowled by a fast bowler is not fun. Injuries can be as bad as what you see in other contact sports. Surviving the nets vs quicks is extremely hard. Lot of injuries can happen at any time. 

 

Trust me getting hit by a fast bowler on your arm hurts as much as most combat sports. 

Yes rugby afl is a brutal in terms of injuries but contact mma related sports is much worse. 

[speedracer]

17 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

 

Which backward country do you live in because your parents should get a refund for your education. Ive never heard you once mention this "country".

 

I said it earlier Ive done TKD, Karate, Ju Jitsu,Thai Kick Boxing, Krav Maga and Boxing. Its almost like you cannot fall an argument or discussion. Which seems to me suggests youre a teenager.

 

You make "foreign comments perspective" on here as if you live in some Western country, but you actually come across as someone that has  genuinely watched too much TV in India from the US.

 

Why I am getting frustrated with your posts, is because you done this a few times in different topics, but you strike as someone who has either lived a very closed sheltered life outside of India or live in India and feel the need to pretend.

 

In many ways, I actually empathize with you and shouldnt call you out on it. Youve joined this forum just three weeks ago. I wish you all the best.

Australia mate. Brisbane. 

Don't empathize with me. Not pretending buddy. 

No sheltered life whatsoever. 

Don't think I ever lived in India.  Been there numerous times. Grand parents and uncles were in army /navy. Was born and raised in Melbourne. St.albans. not a great neighbourhood. I tell you that much.

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by speedracer

[singhvivek141]

48 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Ajay Jadeja as Chief selector anybody

 

Unpopular opinion, but Ajay Jadeja enjoyed quite a good amount of success when he captained Indian team sporadically (Total 13 games, 9 won, 4 lost) .
He was always regarded as someone who had good cricketing brain, but just wasn't as focussed and used to have that casanova/laidback image which kinda went against him.
Then that fixing saga just ruined his chances at the age of 29 itself. 

 

[Mosher]

5 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

On top of it I don't recall him hitting Yorkers consistently even in IPL and has only off cutters as variation.

Sad thing is Mavi was bowling some quick accurate yorkers in U19 wc. He was a special bowler in u19 but now he has clearly regressed and turned into a trundler. 

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, SRT100 said:

Im around 90kgs, the key difference is that I am 6ft2.

Even your un solicited unverified claim 90 kgs at 188 is puny,  muscled lads top 220 pounds at that height.To be considered a big fella you need to be

around 194 cm and 240 pounds min, you are a smaller thin guy basically.. don't be too cocky. 

 

 

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, speedracer said:

Also nz in odi speeds seem to be recorded at a higher reading. I highly doubt the 161 starc clocked is actually 161. Looked 150-155 ish. 

 

 

yes, he should play in NZ

[Vijy]

5 hours ago, Mosher said:

Sad thing is Mavi was bowling some quick accurate yorkers in U19 wc. He was a special bowler in u19 but now he has clearly regressed and turned into a trundler. 

he is now a special trundler.

[Vijy]

On 1/3/2023 at 10:35 PM, SRT100 said:

 

No way do I believe Thompson bowled 160kmhr.

 

IIRC the way fast bowlers speed was recorded back then is very different compared to today.

thompson was the one genuine quick of that time, more so than others. I dunno if he did bowl 160, but I can say confidently that he was fastest of that era

Edited January 5, 2023 by Vijy

[ind_hyd1]

6 hours ago, Mosher said:

Sad thing is Mavi was bowling some quick accurate yorkers in U19 wc. He was a special bowler in u19 but now he has clearly regressed and turned into a trundler. 

Was quite shocked with his speeds. After the Ranji trophy game against be gal remember ishan pirel who was the man of the match making special mention of Shivam mavi saying that he was genuinely quick and troubled all the batters

[ind_hyd1]

If Shivam mavi continues to bowl like this, better have avesh Khan in his place. He doing well this Ranji season. No point in having a 24 year old bowling at 128-134 speeds 

[ind_hyd1]

Clearly not having Bharath arun