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wazza Experienced

wazza

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13 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Depends on the format but we really need a couple of tall bounce bowlers overseas.

 

My preferred pace quartet overseas for the near future ....

 

Bumrah / Mayank Y 

Siraj / Umran

Prasidh / Sen / Tyagi 

Harshit / Hangargekar 

 

 

Would like to add bawa as well 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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20 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Depends on the format but we really need a couple of tall bounce bowlers overseas.

 

My preferred pace quartet overseas for the near future ....

 

Bumrah / Mayank Y 

Siraj / Umran

Prasidh / Sen / Tyagi 

Harshit / Hangargekar 

 

 

last 2 can bat as well. hopefully bawa makes the step up as well

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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8 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

Spencer johnson 

 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/spencer-johnson-oval-invincibles-3-for-1-from-20-balls-after-mlc-global-t20-canada-australia-call-up-1391630

 

 

 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/spencer-johnson-tall-left-arm-and-fast-grasps-his-chance-for-brisbane-heat-in-bbl-1355944

 

So many injuries ,finally coming through.

 

 

Koti is lost.

 

 

 

potti kotti is only 23 yr old, and IIRC he was bowling in mid 140s even as of 1-2 years back. this Johnson Jr is 27 yr, and has played quite less. in principle, there is still time for potti to turn it around. however, I do agree that the window is closing swiftly

express bowling Grand Master

express bowling

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2 hours ago, Vijy said:

last 2 can bat as well. hopefully bawa makes the step up as well

 

They are chosen as bowling all-rounders 

 

The composition I want

 

.. A lead bowler with pace and bounce

.. A skiddy quick pacer

.. A tall bounce bowler with pace

.. A bowling allrounder with pace and bounce

.. 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

They are chosen as bowling all-rounders 

 

The composition I want

 

.. A lead bowler with pace and bounce

.. A skiddy quick pacer

.. A tall bounce bowler with pace

.. A bowling allrounder with pace and bounce

.. 

Bawa can bowl his full quota in both ODIs and T20s. I am assuming that you are writing about all formats.

tapandrun Grand Master

tapandrun

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But why Ind TM and selectors are ignoring genuine pace bowler and favouring short RA/LA nothing bowlers?

 

- Ind captains like slow sluggish brand of cricket where they have and give the illusion that they are controlling the game

- Ind TM and lacks the capabilities to develop good pace bowling attack

- General ignorance towards bowling

-Do not understand basics of fast bowling

 

Amongst top 10 teams this Ind fast bowling unit could be the slowest and least potent fast bowling attack in world cricket right now

 

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tapandrun Grand Master

tapandrun

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19 hours ago, rkt.india said:

and differentiate between formats.  one bowler playing all formats is unrealistic.  Let Bumrah, Siraj stick to test and ODIs.  Make a separate T20 team which should not feature any player from the test team at least. or either create a separate test team players of which do not play other two formats.  Can chose to go one of the two ways. 

T20 offers money, why would some1 restrict themselves to the lowest earning options 

Need4Speed Grand Master

Need4Speed

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15 hours ago, tapandrun said:

But why Ind TM and selectors are ignoring genuine pace bowler and favouring short RA/LA nothing bowlers?

 

- Ind captains like slow sluggish brand of cricket where they have and give the illusion that they are controlling the game

- Ind TM and lacks the capabilities to develop good pace bowling attack

- General ignorance towards bowling

-Do not understand basics of fast bowling

 

Amongst top 10 teams this Ind fast bowling unit could be the slowest and least potent fast bowling attack in world cricket right now

 

coz selectors\TM children play backyard cricket with our bowlers..hence they need only slow trundlers in team..so their children can play easily..

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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21 hours ago, tapandrun said:

But why Ind TM and selectors are ignoring genuine pace bowler and favouring short RA/LA nothing bowlers?

 

- Ind captains like slow sluggish brand of cricket where they have and give the illusion that they are controlling the game

- Ind TM and lacks the capabilities to develop good pace bowling attack

- General ignorance towards bowling

-Do not understand basics of fast bowling

 

Amongst top 10 teams this Ind fast bowling unit could be the slowest and least potent fast bowling attack in world cricket right now

 

it is probably the worst. even scotland has faster bowlers in their squad. one of them hit 150 not so long ago

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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India has to pick separate bowlers for separate formats. India unlike other countries (except England and Australia) play longer test series and more Tests. Burn outs are likely. England had Anderson/Broad/Robinson/Leach to take care of Tests. Wood is used as a strike bowler rather than someone who shares the load. For T20/ODIs they have Jordan, Curran, Rashid, Topley, Willey,Wood, Woakes. This separation is not there for India. Jaddu plays all 3 formats. Shami plays all 3 formats. Siraj plays all 3 formats. Kuldeep plays all 3 formats. Thakur plays all 3 formats. Playing all 3 formats drag your performance down.

singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

India has to pick separate bowlers for separate formats. India unlike other countries (except England and Australia) play longer test series and more Tests. Burn outs are likely. England had Anderson/Broad/Robinson/Leach to take care of Tests. Wood is used as a strike bowler rather than someone who shares the load. For T20/ODIs they have Jordan, Curran, Rashid, Topley, Willey,Wood, Woakes. This separation is not there for India. Jaddu plays all 3 formats. Shami plays all 3 formats. Siraj plays all 3 formats. Kuldeep plays all 3 formats. Thakur plays all 3 formats. Playing all 3 formats drag your performance down.

Have been saying it, we need to imply 2 format limit on players.

That will also widen the pool and in case of multiple injuries we will always have options.

 

For example spinners

Kuldeep should play only Tests and ODI

Bishnoi for ODI and T20

Jadeja only Tests, Axar only ODI's, Washy T20 and ODI, Ashwin only Tests, Chahal only T20's.

 

In pace allrounders, we can play Pandya in only T20's..Bawa for Tests & ODI, Hangargekar in T20 and ODI, Harshit in Tests and ODI.

 

 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Have been saying it, we need to imply 2 format limit on players.

That will also widen the pool and in case of multiple injuries we will always have options.

 

For example spinners

Kuldeep should play only Tests and ODI

Bishnoi for ODI and T20

Jadeja only Tests, Axar only ODI's, Washy T20 and ODI, Ashwin only Tests, Chahal only T20's.

 

In pace allrounders, we can play Pandya in only T20's..Bawa for Tests & ODI, Hangargekar in T20 and ODI, Harshit in Tests and ODI.

 

 

no need for Pandu. next gen are better at one of either batting or bowling than him

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