Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

 

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

Really perplexing why he played just 1 test and 6 ODIs at that time. 

[tapandrun]

47 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is already being clocked in domestic. Bowled quickest of 146.

this domestic 146 kmph ?? then its really good

[rkt.india]

30 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

this domestic 146 kmph ?? then its really good

No. U23 final which was live on tv.

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

till 90s & 2000s we used to select Harvinder Singh, Joginder Sharma who were slow medium.. Yograj had no chance

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

could be wrong here but, there were rumours that kapil didnt want any high potential fast bowler during that time because he wanted to keep all the limelight and other perks associated with it to himself hence selecting low potential bowlers.

 

Similar thing have happened when players become 1st generation superstars , they want to milk as much as possible and see anyone else as a threat.

We have seem fights in Ind women cricket team once the money started flowing in for the 1st time.

 

Same thing happened to 1st gen Bd cricket stars 

 

We are still seeing senior star players still holding up to their place in the team, keeping talented high potential player away

 

[tapandrun]

Yarra got 4-fer vs TN , Trilok (TN) is tallish but pace may not be up there.

 

Any idea on Yarra's pace, few years back ppl were calling him 140+ kmph bowler

 

Mukesh Choudhary -3+3 wkts (kar vs maha)

RamaKrishna - 2 wkts + 36 runs (kar vs maha)

Ayush goyal- 4+4 wkts (pnjb +chdg)

 

Any one knows his pace heard of him 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2025 by tapandrun

[Suhaan]

5 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Yes, he gives flick of the wrist that seem different.

Ryan Harris too had it

[Need4Speed]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

No. U23 final which was live on tv.

I saw RPL year back..dont know the speeds..but he looked very brisk there too..

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Yarra got 4-fer vs TN , Trilok (TN) is tallish but pace may not be up there.

 

Any idea on Yarra's pace, few years back ppl were calling him 140+ kmph bowler

 

Mukesh Choudhary -3+3 wkts (kar vs maha)

RamaKrishna - 2 wkts + 36 runs (kar vs maha)

Ayush goyal- 4+4 wkts (pnjb +chdg)

 

Any one knows his pace heard of him 

 

 

Yarra..when I saw earlier did look like 140k+ bowler..somehow didnt get attention..may be due to line nd length..ecnomy..fetish from selectors..

Edited November 11, 2025 by Need4Speed

[Need4Speed]

regarding Auqib Nabi..even if he bolws at 125-130 kph..and in lack of other options..when we are even trying Kamboj..can Nabi be successful like Philander in SENA conditions..even Pholander wasnt bowling that fast..from naked eye..

Talking strictly about red ball only..

Edited November 11, 2025 by Need4Speed

[Rightarmfast]

13 hours ago, tapandrun said:

could be wrong here but, there were rumours that kapil didnt want any high potential fast bowler during that time because he wanted to keep all the limelight and other perks associated with it to himself hence selecting low potential bowlers.

 

Similar thing have happened when players become 1st generation superstars , they want to milk as much as possible and see anyone else as a threat.

We have seem fights in Ind women cricket team once the money started flowing in for the 1st time.

 

Same thing happened to 1st gen Bd cricket stars 

 

We are still seeing senior star players still holding up to their place in the team, keeping talented high potential player away

 

That's true. As far as I have read and know, Kapil sidelined a lot of bowlers. Srinath is a bloody prime example. 

Yograj was definitely sharp, if not more, then atleast of the same pace as Ajit agarkar. 137-142ish I would say. But he was a threat to Kapil's dominance. During Kapil's playing days, Kapil had a lot of tiff with Gavaskar coz Sunny was the popular player. 

[Suhaan]

17 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

He once said I confronted kapil  with a gun at his doorstep

Maybe he was quite frustrated for obvious reasons

@Gollum,what do you think?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/want-to-put-a-bullet-through-your-head-yograj-singh-startling-revelation-on-threatening-kapil-dev-outside-his-home-101736684613457.html

Edited November 12, 2025 by Suhaan

[rkt.india]

14 hours ago, Vk1 said:

till 90s & 2000s we used to select Harvinder Singh, Joginder Sharma who were slow medium.. Yograj had no chance

Harvinder Singh was quite fast. Was selected because of his pace.

[Vk1]

51 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Harvinder Singh was quite fast. Was selected because of his pace.

are you sure? he doesn't look fast in the old videos.. or were our benchmarks so low in those days

Edited November 12, 2025 by Vk1

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

He once said I confronted kapil  with a gun at his doorstep

Maybe he was quite frustrated for obvious reasons

@Gollum,what do you think?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/want-to-put-a-bullet-through-your-head-yograj-singh-startling-revelation-on-threatening-kapil-dev-outside-his-home-101736684613457.html

I think Yograj is mental, and a terrible human being. Racist, sexist, bigot, delusional, selfish. And an overrated player as his FC stats show. 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

That's true. As far as I have read and know, Kapil sidelined a lot of bowlers. Srinath is a bloody prime example. 

Yograj was definitely sharp, if not more, then atleast of the same pace as Ajit agarkar. 137-142ish I would say. But he was a threat to Kapil's dominance. During Kapil's playing days, Kapil had a lot of tiff with Gavaskar coz Sunny was the popular player. 

Yes, Sunny was a saint who always played for his team, his 36 (180) is a prime example of how big a team man he was. Or his desire to abandon Indian team and play for Packer. 

Edited November 12, 2025 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Yograj's FC stats read, 398 runs in 30 matches at average of 15. 66 wickets at average 27, not even 2.5 wkts per match. But no saaar, he was the Indian Hadlee denied his place by ebhil Kapil Dev saaaar. 

Edited November 12, 2025 by Gollum

[Gollum]

17 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Yograj Singh looks a lively Fast-medium. Quite tall. Getting inswing too 

 

One wonders why such a pacer did not get more chances at a time when Kapil's support pacers were military medium. 

Are we watching the same video? Because he looks like a 120 kph trundler there, no wonder his FC stats were so mediocre. 

Edited November 12, 2025 by Gollum

[Rightarmfast]

18 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

are you sure? he doesn't look fast in the old videos.. or were our benchmarks so low in those days

He was. Pretty sharp.