Muloghonto Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Actually' date=' the Palestinians did not invade Israel. Neither did the Arab League armies attack sovereign Israeli lands. Israel was holding many parts of the territory assigned to the Palestinians when they declared the State of Israel. The Arab League armies were fighting Israel over Palestinian lands... and it was not really a concerted effort and with ulterior motives all around. Israel would have been in trouble if the Arab armies were serious about a sovereign Palestinian state.[/quote'] I am sorry but that is one sided. Israel in 1948 definitely held some assigned Palestinian lands and were in the process of forcing the Palestinians out. The Arab league, in retaliation, definitely attacked Israeli sovereign lands in a concerted effort to crush it and failed. it failed because Israel's newly formed militaries had significant amount of experience from the Igrun/Hagannah insurgency days ( FYI, Israelis were the first to blow up a hotel containing civillians ala terrorist style that i know of) and they had significant financial backing from rich jewish guys from the west. The Arab armies of that era stood zero chance- they did not have a proper army, they knew little of proper army, having been clean-shorn from the Ottoman empire and organized as militias barely 25 years ago and never organized as operational armies by the british/french mandates. Sauds were still a bunch of camel jockeys riding around flashing swords and the major military power in the British held middle east-includng Egypt- was the British Indian military. From WWI to 1950 or so, middle east that was held by Britain was practically an extension of India. Indian troops maintained order there, Indian sappers dug irrigation works and canals and they even used the Indian Rupee as their currency. But anyhoos, what happened 80 years ago is of not that huge consequence. Now, it doesnt matter if the Israelis came via immigration- most israelis today are born in Israel and have as solid a case for being legal citizens of that land as any citizen has towards his/her nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Another stupid comment. Hamas didn't violate ceasfire equates to Hamas is entitled to launch rockets. Henceforth' date=' don't try your hand at logic and also try some reading comprehension exercises.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filandering Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Ad hominem. Take away from this thread. More than the serial killer series ever could have contributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Wow' date=' so many ad hominem's despite the other user taking it easy. :headshake:[/quote'] I agree. He's taken it so easy that logic has taken a back seat. :nice: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Mudar Zahran @Mudar_Zahran 18h Hamas does not want a truce because its leaders get more rewards from Qatar & more facilitation from Jordan,as long as the misery continues Mudar Zahran @Mudar_Zahran 17h I am in touch with locals and figures from Gaza,all seem angry at Hamas and do hold it responsible for refusing the truce.Writing about this Mudar Zahran @Mudar_Zahran 7h Why Hamas doesn't care for a ceasefire?Hamas' top 3 leaders don't live in Gaza,Khaled Mishal in Qatar,Abu Marzuk in Cairo & Nazzal in Jordan ^^ Jordanian Palestinian writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filandering Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 ^what does that Jordanian guy know about Hammas ? He might be confusing hummus with Hammas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Mumbai has been put on high alert. Letter sent to police stating Gaza revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filandering Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Mumbai has been put on high alert. Letter sent to police stating Gaza revenge. Seems logical. Attack another city where minorities are under seige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmreekanDesi Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Apparently pressure building on Netanyahu after Israeli military casualties start to mount. One of my friends from college had his 23 year old cousin sent as a draft!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmreekanDesi Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Problem which I find with Bibi is that he is as extremist as Hamas. Both think that the other side does not have the right to exist. He doesnt publicly say this but this was his view in his 20's and I am pretty sure he still ascribes to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Apparently pressure building on Netanyahu after Israeli military casualties start to mount. One of my friends from college had his 23 year old cousin sent as a draft!!! one of my project mates went on some army duty...not sure if its battle frontline though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I agree. He's taken it so easy that logic has taken a back seat. :nice: being nice will hit harder than being harsh. :agree: i learnt it in a harsh way though :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 being nice will hit harder than being harsh. :agree: i learnt it in a harsh way though :(( Agreed. But bringing in some logic (albeit from an alt account), isn't asking for too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filandering Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Wtf ISRAEL?? Agreed. But bringing in some logic (albeit from an alt account)' date=' isn't asking for too much.[/quote'] I think actually putting holes in someone's arguments rather than having perennial meltdowns over supposed ad hominem isn't too much to ask either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I wonder why palestein took those three teenagers and killed them right before Ramzaan. They must be hoping for wide range support from muslim world.. and, they were actually right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^where are the 299 more? & I see a "live" too:hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Meanwhile there is no outrage in Pakistan for this ... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pakistan-mob-kills-woman-girls-over-blasphemous-Facebook-post/articleshow/39162637.cms Ramadan Special from Pakistan Pakistan mob kills woman, girls, over 'blasphemous' Facebook post ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani mob killed a woman member of a religious sect and two of her granddaughters after a sect member was accused of posting blasphemous material on Facebook, police said on Monday, the latest instance of growing violence against minorities. The dead, including a seven-year-old girl and her baby sister, were Ahmadis, who consider themselves Muslim but believe in a prophet after Mohammed. A 1984 Pakistani law declared them non-Muslims and many Pakistanis consider them heretics. Police said the late Sunday violence in the town of Gujranwala, 220 km (140 miles) southeast of the capital, Islamabad, started with an altercation between young men, one of whom was an Ahmadi accused of posting "objectionable material". "Later, a crowd of 150 people came to the police station demanding the registration of a blasphemy case against the accused," said one police officer who declined to be identified. "As police were negotiating with the crowd, another mob attacked and started burning the houses of Ahmadis." The youth accused of making the Facebook post had not been injured, he said. Under Pakistani law, Ahmadis are banned from using Muslim greetings, saying Muslim prayers or referring to his place of worship as a mosque. Salim ud Din, a spokesman for the Ahmadi community, said it was the worst attack on the community since simultaneous attacks on Ahmadi places of worship killed 86 Ahmadis four years ago. "Police were there but just watching the burning. They didn't do anything to stop the mob," he said. "First they looted their homes and shops and then they burnt the homes." The police officer said they had tried to stop the mob. Accusations of blasphemy are rocketing in Pakistan, from one in 2011 to at least 68 last year, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. About 100 people have been accused of blasphemy this year. Human rights workers say the accusations are increasingly used to settle personal vendettas or to grab the property of the accused. READ ALSO: Pakistan court sentences Christian man to death for blasphemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Meanwhile there is no outrage in Pakistan for this ... optional outrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That is so obviously a hoax pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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