Is Dhoni the greatest Freeloader in the history of this game.

[FischerTal]

How does that make him lucky? He worked his way to becoming an Indian cricket captain' date=' not with some Jharkandi babaji's talisman.[/quote'] no one doubts his hard work, but its pretty easy to see that he got many things handed on a platter, like a test team on the ascent to number one, the 2011 WC squad, etc.

[CG]

Really? So why no other skipper in the history of Indian cricket achieved the same success as Dhoni? Please don't tell me they all had poor team and Dhoni has a team consists of Bradmans and Marshal's. Why is that other person lead the team' date= team India looks like a lost soul? We all saw what happened in Asia cup :giggle: Why no other Indian skipper won more IPL tophies than Dhoni? Plenty of questions which OP failed to answer. If individual performance is the only factor, then sorry to say Tendulkar will be considered as biggest choker. Failed in the both WC Finals, natwest trophy final, India never won a CT with Sachin in the side. and I can go on counting (mind you I am a big Sachin fan myself) So lets not go there. Whatever OP said is ultra rubbish and lets leave at that.

U seriously believe what u wrote.So what when under dhoni we looked lost souls .Yes the thread is unfair but let not make ourselves delusional that dhoni is a great test captain or player.Anybody with some shame would have stepped down after so many losses.

[FischerTal]

Really? So why no other skipper in the history of Indian cricket achieved the same success as Dhoni? Please don't tell me they all had poor team and Dhoni has a team consists of Bradmans and Marshal's. Why is that other person lead the team, team India looks like a lost soul? We all saw what happened in Asia cup :giggle: Why no other Indian skipper won more IPL tophies than Dhoni? Plenty of questions which OP failed to answer. If individual performance is the only factor, then sorry to say Tendulkar will be considered as biggest choker. Failed in the both WC Finals, natwest trophy final, India never won a CT with Sachin in the side. and I can go on counting (mind you I am a big Sachin fan myself) So lets not go there. Whatever OP said is ultra rubbish and lets leave at that.

dhoni is the same man under whom we lost 0-10. if you want to accept his successes, accept his failures as well

[diga]

dhoni is the same man under whom we lost 0-10. if you want to accept his successes' date=' accept his failures as well[/quote'] till he equalises 10-0, there is no respite from critics :orderorder:

[Marco Polo]

We just want dhoni to score some runs....why is it so difficult to understand??? Lol. Don't care about his captaincy, just score runs..

[Midfielder]

Dhoni right now is not helping the cause. He was uncomfortable playing English attack.

[Austin 3:!6]

U seriously believe what u wrote.So what when under dhoni we looked lost souls .Yes the thread is unfair but let not make ourselves delusional that dhoni is a great test captain or player.Anybody with some shame would have stepped down after so many losses.

Oh yes I absolutely believe what I wrote. Even with all the overseas test defeats his record as a test skipper better than any other Indian skipper. He is the only skipper to have taken team India to no.1 side. In ODI's its not even a comparison and MS will be ranked alongside Punter, Clive Lloyd in terms of number of ICC trophies.

[Crookbond]

look at the balls faced column.. someone made it easier for people coming down the order

That's not in his control, is it? The objective of the team game is to win and play for each other strengths. The objective is not to make it difficult for EACH and EVERY player in the team and measure how they do. Meanwhile, easy or not - you still have to score runs. Free loader?

[Midfielder]

We just want dhoni to score some runs....why is it so difficult to understand??? Lol. Don't care about his captaincy' date=' just score runs..[/quote'] Exactly why is this so hard to understand by his blind followers.

[CG]

Oh yes I absolutely believe what I wrote. Even with all the overseas test defeats his record as a test skipper better than any other Indian skipper. He is the only skipper to have taken team India to no.1 side. In ODI's its not even a comparison and MS will be ranked alongside Punter' date=' Clive Lloyd in terms of number of ICC trophies.[/quote'] Okay I respect You Pov.But leadership is more than stats IMO.Also what about those days we looked like lost souls under dhoni who is to blame the lost souls? and why he took us to no 5 in tests too.

[Austin 3:!6]

Okay I respect You Pov.But leadership is more than stats IMO.Also what about those days we looked like lost souls under dhoni who is to blame the lost souls? and why he took us to no 5 in tests too.

Blame has to go to Dhoni. For those 10-0 defeats overseas I completely agree Dhoni must be blamed for poor captincy, field setting, lethargic body language etc. No one denies that But when OP says Dhoni has nil contribution on all Indian wins under his captaincy is rubbish.

[ThePhenomenal1]

as a leader in odis and t20s he has been exceptional. Not as if he's scored ducks and ducks. He has won many matches for india and been an asset. Its the test arena where he has been a freeloader. I think the Lords win was the first time he actually contributed using aggressive captaincy overseas.

[Austin 3:!6]

Forget about Skipper, as an ODI bat he will be amongst top 5 batsman to have ever played in limited overs cricket.

[SLICKR392]

dhoni is the same man under whom we lost 0-10. if you want to accept his successes' date=' accept his failures as well[/quote'] Agreed. He's also lucky to be in the Test side, ATM, but what's with the freeloader title?

[velu]

India Batting Statistics in World T20 2007 MS Dhoni is the 2nd highest run scorer and the second best average. No code has to be inserted here.

thanks DM.. maniac is caught pants down ..

[velu]

our team was full of Freeloaders when we lost 0-4 and 0-4

[Laaloo]

He made exceptional changes and plans in the 2nd innings. Jadeja brought on early got the wicket, after Cook and Ballance were getting comfortable, bought on Shami, he struck first ball. Plan for Sharma to bowl bouncers came off. Still wouldn't back him to score more than 10 in a test

Cook and ballance were getting comfortable because Dhoni was bowling two spinners. There was so much purchase for fast bowlers on the 4th day, then England were lucky not to be all out on the 4th day itself thanks to some bizzarre captaincy by Dhoni. No one is upset that we won the match, but if people think that Dhoni did no wrong, then they are wrong.

[coffee_rules]

We cant deny his ODI greatness, but he is mediocre in Test cricket, even the captaincy. His first test was 2011 onwards, he has fared badly and we can look at other options in Tests. N Ojha and W Saha.

[Austin 3:!6]

Cook and ballance were getting comfortable because Dhoni was bowling two spinners. There was so much purchase for fast bowlers on the 4th day' date=' then England were lucky not to be all out on the 4th day itself thanks to some bizzarre captaincy by Dhoni. No one is upset that we won the match, but if [b']people think that Dhoni did no wrong, then they are wrong.

Who is saying Dhoni did no wrong? On the contrary OP and few people believes Dhoni did everything wrong :cantstop:

[velu]

We cant deny his ODI greatness' date=' but he is mediocre in Test cricket, even the captaincy. His first test was 2011 onwards, he has fared badly and we can look at other options in Tests. N Ojha and W Saha.[/quote'] other than 0-4 and -04 his records is not that bad.. how many team whitewahsed aussies ?