So basically its not the Captain, its the Team which is Rubbish

[Austin 3:!6]

Everyone criticized MS Dhoni and how he damaged (almost single handedly) Indian test team overseas. How he keeps on playing trundlers, CSK boys. How if it was any other captain, this team has potential to be a world beater.Some people even went to an extent stating he is scared of keeping against genuine pace and thats why bowlers like Varun Marshal Aaron, Umesh Lilee Yadav never gets selected. We all dreamt how a new skipper would immidiately turn the fortune of Indian cricket. In comes Virat Kohli and he selected all the players that we were so desperate to see. A bowling combination of Aaron, Ishant, Shami was amazing pick which a lackluster skipper like MS would have never done. A young leggie on debut would not have even crossed that defensive skippers mind. Bravo Kohli. Day 2 - Australia 517/7 OR let me put it very blindly this test match will be over in 4 days with another series loss. Next please....

[Gollum]

Adelaide is a flat deck, Aussies even creamed Steyn and co on this pitch. Let us wait for 3 more days before passing our judgement. If history has taught us anything, it is that trundlers can't help you win outside SC. In Umesh, Varun, Shami and Ishant we have genuine speedsters who can deliver but we must be patient.

[BlueBee]

Kohli has captained well. Period.

[bharat297]

Adelaide is a flat deck, Aussies even creamed Steyn and co on this pitch. Let us wait for 3 more days before passing our judgement. If history has taught us anything, it is that trundlers can't help you win outside SC. In Umesh, Varun, Shami and Ishant we have genuine speedsters who can deliver but we must be patient.

I don't mind being patient. But I would like to see a little bit of improvement in terms of accuracy. I don't understand how international cricketers, who train every day can not land six balls in the same spot. Lack of swing, wrist position, pace ... Ok those things might change here or there depending on the action, fatigue, etc. But accuracy should not even be a criteria for selection ... It should be an assumption. To me, if you are an international bowler who can't land six balls in the same spot it is the equivalent of being a batsman who does not have a forward defence. You can have all the shots in the book but what's the point. It seems like such a basic thing.

[CG]

Lol what hypocrisy op.

[IKnowU]

Agreed with op. Most wont admit it or wait to pounce on you when and if there is a glimmer of hope in this test.

[bulbul]

Agree..World cup also won by team, captain was just there for toss.

[putrevus]

so now we are equating dhoni who captained zillion matches to kohli who is captaining for first time.

[BlueBee]

^ OP is a diehard MSDian.

[G_B_]

or the coach the calibre of indian cricketer being produced is not good enough for overseas cricket.

[sweetaskandy]

I often have a laugh here at India but in honesty most Asian players are technically poor and can succeed only in 'home' or home like conditions. You get the odd star player - Sachin, Sanga type but generally true.

[Lord]

Every team except SA is rubbish in unfamiliar conditions currently

[G_B_]

Yes that is damning but true. I am also disappointed with the final 11s that we put out - almost as if nobody cares. We put some fellows name on the sheet making numbers if you like - or worse they actually feel that its going to work.

I don't that is the case I don't think our pacers know how to bowl for example on overseas pitches

[Lord]

That means zilch nada - we are rubbish I don't care how rubbish others are - lets celebrate this communal mediocrity :haha:

It does give perspective though.Other teams have better resources yet suck. To do well overseas you need experienced team and one who does basics right.Like SA currently or India when Fab5 were in top form.Currently we have inexperienced team in all departments.Unfair to expect good performance whoever is captain

[zep1706]

A 500+ first innings score is par for the course at Adelaide Oval.

[express bowling]

Everyone criticized MS Dhoni and how he damaged (almost single handedly) Indian test team overseas. How he keeps on playing trundlers, CSK boys. How if it was any other captain, this team has potential to be a world beater.Some people even went to an extent stating he is scared of keeping against genuine pace and thats why bowlers like Varun Marshal Aaron, Umesh Lilee Yadav never gets selected. We all dreamt how a new skipper would immidiately turn the fortune of Indian cricket. In comes Virat Kohli and he selected all the players that we were so desperate to see. A bowling combination of Aaron, Ishant, Shami was amazing pick which a lackluster skipper like MS would have never done. A young leggie on debut would not have even crossed that defensive skippers mind. Bravo Kohli. Day 2 - Australia 517/7 OR let me put it very blindly this test match will be over in 4 days with another series loss. Next please....

So .... you are comparing last 3 years of pathetic overseas test performances, including two whitewashes, by MSD the captain with 1 innings of bad result by Kohli !! Wow !! Sensible indeed.

[Lord]

We have been inexperienced for years together as far as I can remember am sure you have to draw a line someplace - and take a look at precisely whats going wrong and not be secure in the feeling that others are bad as us as well so what the heck let this mediocrity continue for a few more years.

I'm not saying don't do anything.But you have to show patience with inexperienced bunch,thats the only option.We know they are talented and willing to learn,but still it'll take time

[Cricket_Hacker]

Geez,let them bat first

[mishra]

I will be happy with Indian performance if game goes till day 5.

[gattaca]

Op MSD is worst captain in history of cricket to loose 11-1 and counting.