Marut Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Adelaide was more difficult to bat compared to Chennai, due to its bounce. Bring Lyon to India, our batters will flay him - but the bounce in Australia was what that made the match very hard to win.
BlueBee Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Sachin choked. That's the difference. :vroam:
Lord Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Sachin choked. That's the difference. :vroam: so did Kohli :idunno:
express bowling Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Chasing 364 in one day, on a spinning and bouncing 5th day pitch, is really really difficult. Many people are ignoring this fact. Almost chasing that, with help from just one more batsman, is something special that Kohli did today.
Gollum Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Really this one was a way better knock than Sachin's 136. Expect more such innings from Virat in the future.
Laaloo Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 What was the equation during sachins innings? runs to get and balls in hand today virat had to score and rotate the strike with clowns like sharma and the tail at the other end
Switchblade Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 What was the equation during sachins innings? runs to get and balls in hand today virat had to score and rotate the strike with clowns like sharma and the tail at the other end India needed 16 with 5 wickets in hand when Sachin was out they had Joshi,Kumble,Srinath and Prasad left.
rajmarie Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 You guys fails to understand hat if saha had connected that or kohli had connected that then it was the last over of Lyon. A little luck was needed there
Laaloo Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 India needed 16 with 5 wickets in hand when Sachin was out they had Joshi' date='Kumble,Srinath and Prasad left.[/quote'] i know that i meant when we needed something like 100 runs left what was the equation
Gollum Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Sachin didn't have a fat lazy clown like Rohit Sharma batting at the other end. Main reason why Virat lost his composure.
Crookbond Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Excerpt From: Sachin Tendulkar. “Playing It My Way: My Autobiography.” on the Chennai Test “And then the pain struck. It was forty-five minutes before tea when I felt a scorching pain in my back. By now Nayan and I had put together a good partnership and the game was starting to tilt ever so slightly towards India. But Pakistan had yet to take the new ball and I knew we still had a fair amount of work to do. Wasim and Waqar would give their best in one final burst. The hot and humid conditions in Chennai were harsh and I was starting to suffer from cramp. Playing each ball was turning out to be an ordeal and the pain in my back was becoming unbearable. ... In fact, we were cruising along when Nayan got out to a bad shot. He tried a slog to a Wasim delivery and top-edged the ball in the process. There was no need to play that shot and it had once again given Pakistan a ray of hope. It was a sad end to a very good innings from Nayan. Sunil Joshi, who came in next, settled well and even hit a six off Saqlain during his forty-minute stay at the wicket. We made 36 in the six overs after Nayan got out and the target was now just 17 runs away. In the meantime my back had all but given up on me and I was finding it difficult to stand up straight. Every movement was hurting and every shot increased the pain. ... It was a painful walk back to the pavilion. Even the standing ovation from the crowd did little to alleviate the pain at not having finished the match. However, I must say that I really did not expect us to lose the match from there, with just 17 runs to get and three wickets, including Srinath and Kumble, still left. In fact, I couldn’t believe what was happening when we were bowled out for 258 and lost by 12 runs. My world seemed to collapse around me and I just couldn’t hold back the tears in the dressing room. My back was in horrible shape and mentally I was at a serious low.”
Ultimate_Game Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 There are a few differences between the two scenarios... 1. We were chasing nearly 100 runs less at Chennai compared to this Test. 2. Time or run rate was never a factor in Chennai but here the RR reqd was nearly 4 throughout the innings which is a huge ask on a 5th day pitch. 3. Chennai Test was at home whereas this Test was being played in the nation where we have yet to win a single series and victories have come few and far between. 4. The Chennai pitch never really deteriorated to the extent Adelaide one did. It was Saqlain's doosra that created problems for us and not the rough or the pitch. Here Lyon was bowling hand grenades from the rough. So all in all a win at Adelaide would have been more special but both the knocks were great. IMO if any of Rahane, Rohit or Saha had managed to stay with Kohli, he would have been less likely to risk clearing the boundary with a man posted there.
Marut Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Target wise 364 is huge, and 364 outside India is bigger, and 364 outside the SC is Herculean. India have successfully chased such a target only once outside home, way back in 1976. If you take out this effort, the next highest successful chase outside India is just 264. And the highest chase outside the SC in India's cricket history is 233/6 which Rahul and co managed at Adelaide. India has successfully chased 200+ outside SC only thrice in history. So 364 was just a huge target. The opposition team is known to be nearly invincible at home. The odds against Virat being phenomenal, this would have been the biggest test win by India if the effort had succeeded.
sensible-indian Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Target wise 364 is huge, and 364 outside India is bigger, and 364 outside the SC is Herculean. India have successfully chased such a target only once outside home, way back in 1976. If you take out this effort, the next highest successful chase outside India is just 264. And the highest chase outside the SC in India's cricket history is 233/6 which Rahul and co managed at Adelaide. India has successfully chased 200+ outside SC only thrice in history. So 364 was just a huge target. The opposition team is known to be nearly invincible at home. The odds against Virat being phenomenal, this would have been the biggest test win by India if the effort had succeeded. And he almost did it. Only played that shot after all the established bats were gone and a timid Karn was there at the other end. Bravo Kohli Bravo. A Laraesque innings (aggression point of view) but this one that didn't finish the game.
BlueBee Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Chennai pitch was easier to bat that Adelaide pitch. For Indians obviously .. :vroam:
Marut Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Sachin 136 is not a unique knock - other Indian batsmen have played such knocks (even better ones) at home. Kohli 140 in a fourth innings chase outside SC is a rare thing for an Indian batsman to do. It is actually the second highest 4th innings score outside India by an Indian. And he did it at a strike rate of 80! Kohli is just 27 years old and he has already scored two tons in the 4th innings outside SC. Sachin, Dravid and Laxman managed just one such ton in their entire careers. Gavaskar has four such tons and Kohli may equal or beat him. Kohli could well become a 4th innings specialist chaser like he is in ODIs.
virufan Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I cannot believe Sachin was 10 years into the game then.Wow!
AmreekanDesi Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Kohli played a blinder and got us back fro mthe dead into a potentially winning position. But at no point were we overwhelming favorites to win the match In Chennai we were dead set winners until Sachin got out. We threw that match
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