tweaker Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Muhammad Zahid.He has 10 wicket haul in his debut test,but injuries ruined him
CG Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Sachin (Sachin played much better against better bowlers and harsher conditions of the 90s compared to relatively inferior bowlers and batsman friendly condition after 90s - if this is not under performance then what else is?) Around 1998, I thought Sachin would finish with a career average of 60+ at a S/R of 60+ if he played till 2010. I thought he would play a lot of impactful knocks (comparable to Kolk 2001) but those knocks were rarely seen from his blade. Sachin rarely played well in a pressure situation like battling out 100+ overs in a fourth innings cause. Considerable underachievement for some one with his talent. Sachin the best prodigy the world has ever seen at the age of 16 did not fully achieve his potential inspite of his tremendous accomplishments. I think its a myth sachin did play well under pressure.Pick out any drawn test or win sachin had meaningful contribution in it.Most of his small gems are forgotten because of his stature.Most of them turned in to draws or victory after 2005 as we had a good team .Chennai test chase against england was nothing short of outstanding.Or drawn games in nz and sa,.
Sid_SuhaiL Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Nehra Ganguly ( tests ) Neil McKenzie Sarwan also Dwayne Bravo , much better batsman than his stats show esp. in ODIs
Gollum Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Sachin (Sachin played much better against better bowlers and harsher conditions of the 90s compared to relatively inferior bowlers and batsman friendly condition after 90s - if this is not under performance then what else is?) Around 1998, I thought Sachin would finish with a career average of 60+ at a S/R of 60+ if he played till 2010. I thought he would play a lot of impactful knocks (comparable to Kolk 2001) but those knocks were rarely seen from his blade. Sachin rarely played well in a pressure situation like battling out 100+ overs in a fourth innings cause. Considerable underachievement for some one with his talent. Sachin the best prodigy the world has ever seen at the age of 16 did not fully achieve his potential inspite of his tremendous accomplishments. +1 In test cricket he was a huge underachiever. In 90s, the toughest era for batsmen he was averaging 59. Should have ended his career with a 70+ average and minimum 70-80 test 100s. Also in spite of playing 200 tests he rarely turned up when India needed him the most. Dravid, VVS were much better clutch players than him. And his 4th innings performances will always be a big blot on his career. The most talented batsman in history, the soundest technique ever but somehow mentally he wasn't that good.
Texan Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 To me, the biggest disappointments of watching Indian cricket the last 25 years have been Munaf Patel and Irfan Pathan. When Munaf came on, he was fast, accurate and could even reverse swing the ball. 5 years later, he was slow, inaccurate and even more woeful in the field that what he was. Irfan Pathan was probably even more disappointing. When he yorked Adam Gilchrist with a reverse swinging fast yorker, I thought we were onto something sensational. But instead of increasing his pace, he got ridiculously slower and even lost his much feared swing.
express bowling Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Laxman Sivaramakrishnan Salil Ankola Narendra Hirwani Pravin Amre Ashish Nehra Sehwag ( ODI ) Munaf Patel ( he was quick and accurate when he started ) R P Singh Viv Richards Mohammad Akram Ian Bishop Bruce Reid Stewart McGill
CG Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 To me, the biggest disappointments of watching Indian cricket the last 25 years have been Munaf Patel and Irfan Pathan. When Munaf came on, he was fast, accurate and could even reverse swing the ball. 5 years later, he was slow, inaccurate and even more woeful in the field that what he was. Irfan Pathan was probably even more disappointing. When he yorked Adam Gilchrist with a reverse swinging fast yorker, I thought we were onto something sensational. But instead of increasing his pace, he got ridiculously slower and even lost his much feared swing. Munaf even in his first match where he was fastest showed signs of lack cos stamina he bowled few overs at 140ks then he dropped to 128ks.He lacked stamina and most importantly motivation to improve after being an indian cricketer which is understandable as he had done some hard yards to get there from his background. Irfan also was was hyped up due to one ball at 142s in aus.It put so much pressure and all this talk of pace when his from dropped.He was never a force against sides who play fast bowling well except sc sides though. For me the biggest disappointment has to sreesanth,R.p Singh what separated both from others was they could take wickets against non sc sides like Sa,aus,eng .Both could have been world class swing bowlers with dedication and work ethic but lost it.
BeautifulGame Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Munaf even in his first match where he was fastest showed signs of lack cos stamina he bowled few overs at 140ks then he dropped to 128ks.He lacked stamina and most importantly motivation to improve after being an indian cricketer which is understandable as he had done some hard yards to get there from his background. Irfan also was was hyped up due to one ball at 142s in aus.It put so much pressure and all this talk of pace when his from dropped.He was never a force against sides who play fast bowling well except sc sides though. For me the biggest disappointment has to sreesanth,R.p Singh what separated both from others was they could take wickets against non sc sides like Sa,aus,eng .Both could have been world class swing bowlers with dedication and work ethic but lost it. RP Singh was a real let down . He could bowl wicket taking deliveries even on Patta wickets
kosingh Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Imran Nazir Shahid Afridi M. Yousif Inzimam Shoaib Akthar M. Asif Salman Butt S. Anwar Umar Akmal Kamran Akmal Afridi, if anything, overachieved given his brain.
vvvslaxman Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Kapil with bat in Tests. He is a far better player than a 31 average batsman.
Temujin Khaghan Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Except he had great hand-eye cordination. Could have easily turned into a Chris Gayle type player had he used his brain. please. comparing him to lance klusener is itself pushing it..
vijay50 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 sir nohit sharma This. Also Harbhajan.Iexpected him to take atleast 600+ test wickets. He still has age on his side to get there, if only he has the motivation. Also Sehwag in ODIs. When you see players like Dilshan copying his style and still succesful in ODIs and tests at age 38, whereas this guy lost it at age 34.
Muloghonto Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I will say Aashish Nehra. I remember seeing Nehra in his first series and i was blown away. He didn't bowl very smart (understandable, he was a young debutant with no pace bowling leader in the attack either) but man did he bowl like a guy who oozed talent. Looked like an easy but awkward action where he launched balls regularly in the 140-145 kph zone, for entire spells, while making the ball move around like a banana. Particularly that killer inswinger. Then he got injured and suddenly, the zip was just gone.
vvvslaxman Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I will say Aashish Nehra. I remember seeing Nehra in his first series and i was blown away. He didn't bowl very smart (understandable, he was a young debutant with no pace bowling leader in the attack either) but man did he bowl like a guy who oozed talent. Looked like an easy but awkward action where he launched balls regularly in the 140-145 kph zone, for entire spells, while making the ball move around like a banana. Particularly that killer inswinger. Then he got injured and suddenly, the zip was just gone. Ashish Nehra once told he was not interested in longer version of the game. It was his choice .
Scarves Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Not counting current players - Brett Lee - Mark Waugh - Greg Blewett - Alex Tudor - Irfan Pathan That's really it.
CG Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 RP Singh was a real let down . He could bowl wicket taking deliveries even on Patta wickets R.p Singh did not do well in india in tests but he had ability to produce wicket taking deliveries and Left arm inswing and a good bouncer would have evolved well and if you hear him commentating looks like having brains,Don't know how he lost it.
kosingh Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I don't see why people believe Ishant has much ability. He is physically gifted, yes. But that's where his gifts end.
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