express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Bumrah, Warrier, Sran, VPS, Suyal, and Shardul Thakur. These guys can certainly hit 140K. They are fast medium, not fast. Dont see any 145K fast bowler though.We now have 2 fast and 2 fast-medium pacers in our team. 1 more fast bowler is in contention. Among this lot Ishant is bowling accurately now and Shami has the potential too. If we can find 1 accurate quick , it can transform our bowling. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 We now have 2 fast and 2 fast-medium pacers in our team. 1 more fast bowler is in contention. Among this lot Ishant is bowling accurately now and Shami has the potential too. If we can find 1 accurate quick , it can transform our bowling.Shami too isnt accurate enough and lacks the stamina to sustain intensity. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 i believe Varun aroon is getting into full form now and he should have been selected into the last 2 ODI too.. I don't have any expectations from the left arm slow trundle at all. Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Considering all the pacers we have right now we should play each one in the format that suits them.Test- Ishant,Umesh,Aaron,Shami,BK.ODI- Shami,Mohit,Aaron,Umesh,Dhawal.T20- Shami,Mohit,Bumrah,Dhawal.A raw talent like Nathu Singh certainly excite us but we've to see what he has to offer beforewe can fast track him.If he is capable of bowling fast at pace around 140+ he can certainly bean asset.We should also consider Bumrah,Suyal,Shukla ,Warrier given that they're performingin the domestic circuit.U can't select smone based on his pace unless he's express like 150+we've none like that in the country. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 i believe Varun aroon is getting into full form now and he should have been selected into the last 2 ODI too.. I don't have any expectations from the left arm slow trundle at all. I expect a lot from the slow trundler Srinath Arvind. I expect him to go for a lot of runs so that such selections are never made in the future. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Considering all the pacers we have right now we should play each one in the format that suits them.Test- Ishant,Umesh,Aaron,Shami,BK.ODI- Shami,Mohit,Aaron,Umesh,Dhawal.T20- Shami,Mohit,Bumrah,Dhawal.A raw talent like Nathu Singh certainly excite us but we've to see what he has to offer beforewe can fast track him.If he is capable of bowling fast at pace around 140+ he can certainly bean asset.We should also consider Bumrah,Suyal,Shukla ,Warrier given that they're performingin the domestic circuit.U can't select smone based on his pace unless he's express like 150+we've none like that in the country.What has Mohit Sharma done really to deserve a place? He does not take that many wickets, nor is he that economical. He does not have much pace or bounce. He is as average as they come.Ishant Sharma might be a decent inclusion in the ODIs in place of Mohit. Link to comment
fineleg Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Thankfully MSD is not Test captain. Else we will have Test attack of Bhuvi, Mohit Sharma, the Karntka Wazim Ekram, J. Unadkat and A. Mithun and perhaps Dhawal Kulkarni. MSD Loooovvveeess trundlers. Edited October 20, 2015 by fineleg Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thankfully MSD is not Test captain. Else we will have Test attack of Bhuvi, Mohit Sharma, the Karntka Wazim Ekram, J. Unadkat and A. Mithun and perhaps Dhawal Kulkarni. MSD Loooovvveeess trundlers.He says fast bowlers go for runs but it's not like trundlers are bowling maidens. I will rather lose with fast bowlers. You are already losing with both. Bowlers like Aravind are never going to win you games or become world class. No other team in world cricket look to play trundlers other than us. Ironhide and Mosher 2 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It's so comfortable n great to bat against Trundlers as one can manage to see the ball till v hit the ball ...it feels good n all batsmen enjoi. Fast delivery hitting the batsmen is fearful n batsmen is not sure if he will manage to play the entire over.... I am an opening batsmen for my multinational company...can dhoni read this Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) He says fast bowlers go for runs but it's not like trundlers are bowling maidens. I will rather lose with fast bowlers. You are already losing with both. Bowlers like Aravind are never going to win you games or become world class. No other team in world cricket look to play trundlers other than us.I am not aware of any trundlers who have succeeded in test matches in the last 40 years..In ODI also, very few have done well.Even good deliveries by trundlers often go for runs. Edited October 20, 2015 by express bowling Link to comment
fineleg Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 ^ Who are the successful trundlers?Vaas in ODIs, who else...Vaas though could hit 135+ Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 ^ Who are the successful trundlers?Vaas in ODIs, who else...Vaas though could hit 135+Vaas was fast-medium during a large part of his career. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) ^ Who are the successful trundlers?Vaas in ODIs, who else...Vaas though could hit 135+In ODIs, Nathan Bracken is the only successful trundler I can think of offhand.( He did not play that many tests ). But even he was very tall. Not like a typical shortish trundler that we see. Edited October 20, 2015 by express bowling Link to comment
Wasim9211 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 newzeland has tarun Nathula who played 5 odi for them, not long ago,he is nobody with the bat but took 5 wkts Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 In ODIs, Nathan Bracken is the only successful trundler I can think of offhand.( He did not play that many tests ). But even he was very tall. Not like a typical shortish trundler that we see.Bracken had gr8 slower ones n was very effective in death oversour trundlers cnt even do that Also Ian harvey use to use slower balls brilliantly in death oversour bowlers cnt even use slower balls properly Link to comment
cric_fan Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Is this guy the real deal or just another Atul Sharma? Ironhide 1 Link to comment
kosingh Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It's so comfortable n great to bat against Trundlers as one can manage to see the ball till v hit the ball ...it feels good n all batsmen enjoi. Fast delivery hitting the batsmen is fearful n batsmen is not sure if he will manage to play the entire over.... I am an opening batsmen for my multinational company...can dhoni read thisLOL. That third line destroyed your argument. Opening batsman for a multinational company! Link to comment
CG Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Looks like bhuvi so radhikiji has a new cricketer to follow. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) MRF Pace Foundation was started in the late 80s. Till then India had medium pacers and slow-medium pacers mostly with an occasional fast-medium bowler like Kapil Dev. The difference in pace between us and the rest of the world was staggering then. From 1989, we have played many fast and fast-medium pacers ....from MRF as well as others. Quite a few guys have been picked for our national team primarily because they were thought to have extra pace ( whether truly or not ). They are Srinath, Ankola, Zaheer, Agarkar, Munaf, VRV , Mithun, Umesh, Aaron and Shami. Nathu Singh maybe the new addition to this list. Srinath and Zaheer have gone on to become 2 of the 3 best pacers we have produced in our history. Shami has been great in ODIs. Agarkar was decent in ODIs too. VRV became injured. Mithun was wrongly thought to be fast.So, the turnover of good bowlers from fast bowlers has been quite good in India. Edited October 22, 2015 by express bowling Ironhide 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 So, the turnover has not been bad.Sent from my HTC Desire C using Tapatalk Link to comment
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