surajmal Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 India has too many cows. Cant take care of its people, good luck with gau raksha. But still I'm fully for cow protection. Largely symbolic but a must step to reclaim the land (like ram mandir will be). Tibarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Quote CHANDIGARH: A fortnight after he asked Prime Minister Narendra Modi to apologise for dubbing cow vigilantes "anti-socials", Patiala-based Gau Raksha Dal chief Satish Kumar was arrested by Punjab police from Vrindavan in Uttar Pradesh on charges of sodomy. Three of his associates were also arrested from Kurukshetra in Haryana on Saturday. Cops slapped section 377 of IPC (unnatural sex) on Satish on the basis of statements by two Saharanpur-based Muslim cattle traders before the sub-divisional judicial magistrate in Patiala. According to the statement, Satish along with other members had demanded Rs 30,000 from the two traders for allowing them to take their cattle-laden vehicles from Punjab to UP. When they refused, Satish and his men urinated on their faces, beat them up and filmed the act. They also asked the traders to drink the urine. "Kumar and his men also sodomised them," it added. The video of the incident had since gone viral on You-Tube and Facebook. Satish was on the run for the past two weeks after Punjab police booked him. Documents of three plots in Patiala and registration papers of three vehicles were seized from him. Yeh Gau Raksha hai yaa gay mazaa Edited August 22, 2016 by Singh bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Gau raksha is the new term after intolerance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Gau Raksha has become a good business for extortion and land grabbing. In my village,some people have taken over a govt building in the name of gau raksha......easy peesy.Use religion for profit. Singh bling and tweaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moniker Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Gay rape is the new gau raksha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Quote http://indianexpress.com/article/india/46-cows-die-due-to-pneumonia-starvation-at-ap-cattle-shelter-4762443/ This is the fate of all unproductive cows and bulls for whom so much hungama is created by so called gau rakshak.Everytime a Gau rakshak do hungama police should hand him some unproductive cow and ask him to take care of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 How many thousands of humans are dying everyday due to old age and sickness in India? Why are people dying? Why arent they demanding that government solve the problem of death? Why aren't you demanding this? zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 If the phony secular Indian government would stop looting Hindu temples, the temples could take care of the cows. Instead, Hindu temple money goes to "secular" politicians and their stupid schemes. zen and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 6 hours ago, surajmal said: How many thousands of humans are dying everyday due to old age and sickness in India? Why are people dying? Why arent they demanding that government solve the problem of death? Why aren't you demanding this? Do we artificially breed humans? Do we buy or sell strong humans and sell weak ones?Do we raise Humans for economic reasons.I guess if you put Cows and humans on same standard then Govt should also allow slavery and buying selling of humans too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 hours ago, Tibarn said: If the phony secular Indian government would stop looting Hindu temples, the temples could take care of the cows. Instead, Hindu temple money goes to "secular" politicians and their stupid schemes. Speaking in economic terms cow protection is simply economically unviable, no amount of temple money can take care of so much unproductive cows Quote Each year, 3.4 crore male calves are born in this country. If we assume that they live for eight years, which is actually on the lower side, there would be nearly 27 crore additional unproductive cattle by the end of eight years,” he said. The population, he added, is expected to stabilise after that. ₹5 lakh cr additional outgo The additional outgo for looking after these cattle would be ₹5.4 lakh crore, 35 times the annual animal husbandry budgets of the Centre and all States put together, he said. “In addition, there will be an additional capital expenditure of ₹10 lakh crore, if one considers the minimum that the Gujarat government allocates for building a shed for a cow,” Rawal told BusinessLine. Besides, a vast tract of five lakh acres of land will be required to provide shelter to these animals. According to him, fodder, which is currently available in the country, would not be enough to feed them. Besides, the water requirement of these extra animals would be more than the quantum of water used for human consumption in the country. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/agri-business/cow-slaughter-ban-can-cost-india-dearly/article9756523.ece It require twice the budget of defence to simply upkeep the unproductive cattles. I don't think temples generate so much revenue. Also religious institutions are some of the most corrupt. Even if Govt give them money only 1% will reach cow tthe rest will go in corruption.For 1984 riots Gurdwara's collected huge amount in India and abroad but hardly that money reached to victims as corrupt Gurdwara managers took all the money.One can easily imagine how much will reach to cows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 If ppl start evaluating everything in terms of economic value, it won't be long before they too are evaluated only based on their economic worth The planet belongs to all including animals. The thing that is spreading like virus is the population in Ind, many of them a burden on this planet Gollum and Under_Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, zen said: If ppl start evaluating everything in terms of economic value, it won't be long before they too are evaluated only based on their economic worth The planet belongs to all including animals. The thing that is spreading like virus is the population in Ind, many of them a burden on this planet Cows are raised for economic reason not as pets, O/W why India imported Holstein and jersey cows, still large quantity of Holstein semen is imported so cows can produce as much milk as they can Edited July 29, 2017 by Singh bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Singh bling said: Do we artificially breed humans? Do we buy or sell strong humans and sell weak ones?Do we raise Humans for economic reasons.I guess if you put Cows and humans on same standard then Govt should also allow slavery and buying selling of humans too Yes. Yes. Yes. Already being done since ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, surajmal said: Yes. Yes. Yes. Already being done since ages. It has been banned , while dairy industry is promoted , just ask BJP Govt to ban dairy industry of cows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Singh bling said: Speaking in economic terms cow protection is simply economically unviable, no amount of temple money can take care of so much unproductive cows Gaushalas aren't made for economic benefit. They are made as part of charity. Charity isn't expected to be economically viable. Giving money to homeless or most poor people is also economically a dead investment. 16 hours ago, Singh bling said: Also religious institutions are some of the most corrupt. Even if Govt give them money only 1% will reach cow tthe rest will go in corruption.For 1984 riots Gurdwara's collected huge amount in India and abroad but hardly that money reached to victims as corrupt Gurdwara managers took all the money.One can easily imagine how much will reach to cows The difference is that Gurdwaras are in control of the Sikh community. Ultimately Sikh religious community leadership has votes and say in who runs these places of worship. If Sikhs want to kick out the people in charge, they can do so. Hindu temples are assumed to be corrupt solely because the Central and State governments want their money. Noone asked the Central/State governments to take control of Hindu temples. Temples were more or less free under the British, but Nehru felt the need to take them over whenever he ran out of money. On the other hand, Nehru specifically released Churches from government control, despite Churches being under government control during the British era. Mosques also are free from Central/State government control. So only Hindus mismanage and are corrupt in controlling their temples? Muslims and Christians aren't corrupt and don't mismanage their places of worship? Sorry, I'm not buying it. The Secular state seems to leech off of Hindus only, acting like they are doing us some sort of favor. How much money is in Hindu temples would vary by where they are geographically located. Those in South India probably have much more money than those in North or West. I forgot which temple in Kerala, but Jet-Li has been pushing to seize all the temple gold from it and put it in central banks: 1) Basically steal gold that Hindu devotees gift to a temple to fund stupid central schemes. 2) Give Hindu money to non-Hindus, but non-Hindu money can never be taken to provide welfare for Hindus. Just a piece of history: in the 1980s, the Andhra Pradesh State Government was going broke. They were in debt some 65 crores and The Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams board, which controlled a huge number of temples in AP's yearly income was around 33 crore. The TTD used its income to: run Hospitals, run schools, provide meals for devotees who visited the temples, and even ran Gaushalas. The AP government essentially took the money, donated by Hindu devotees who visited from all over India, and siphoned off the funds for I quote "secular purposes." To further compare them to Gurdwaras: Gurdwaras are governed by the laws that Sikhs agitated for. Ultimately Sikhs can reform any Gurdwara that they view is being mismanaged or is misusing funds. Gurdwaras are also effectively only run by Sikhs themselves, as representatives of the community have the right to vote regarding Gurdwara management. The "Secular" Indian state appoints who runs Hindu temples. Hindus have no say in it. Just a few months ago, in West Bengal, a Muslim chela of Mamata Banerjee was appointed in charge of a Hindu temple. 10 years ago, a temple in Kerala had all its funds transferred to a Christian bank. Halls attached to Hindu temples are used for marriages of other communities, with even meat being served on temple premises. Think about that for a second. Christians and Muslims essentially believe that Hindus are nonbelievers and are going to be tortured and burnt alive for entirety after death because Hindus don't believe in Jesus/Allah. People who believe a common Hindu deserves that extent of torture, hatred, and punishment, simply for believing a different thing than them, can be put in charge of structures that are central to the Hindu community and can choose what to do with money/gold that is specifically donated for the development of Hindu society by Hindu devotees. Edited July 29, 2017 by Tibarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tibarn said: Gaushalas aren't made for economic benefit. They are made as part of charity. Charity isn't expected to be economically viable. Giving money to homeless or most poor people is also economically a dead investment. The difference is that Gurdwaras are in control of the Sikh community. Ultimately Sikh religious community leadership has votes and say in who runs these places of worship. If Sikhs want to kick out the people in charge, they can do so. Hindu temples are assumed to be corrupt solely because the Central and State governments want their money. Noone asked the Central/State governments to take control of Hindu temples. Temples were more or less free under the British, but Nehru felt the need to take them over whenever he ran out of money. On the other hand, Nehru specifically released Churches from government control, despite Churches being under government control during the British era. Mosques also are free from Central/State government control. So only Hindus mismanage and are corrupt in controlling their temples? Muslims and Christians aren't corrupt and don't mismanage their places of worship? Sorry, I'm not buying it. The Secular state seems to leech off of Hindus only, acting like they are doing us some sort of favor. How much money is in Hindu temples would vary by where they are geographically located. Those in South India probably have much more money than those in North or West. I forgot which temple in Kerala, but Jet-Li has been pushing to seize all the temple gold from it and put it in central banks: 1) Basically steal gold that Hindu devotees gift to a temple to fund stupid central schemes. 2) Give Hindu money to non-Hindus, but non-Hindu money can never be taken to provide welfare for Hindus. Just a piece of history: in the 1980s, the Andhra Pradesh State Government was going broke. They were in debt some 65 crores and The Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams board, which controlled a huge number of temples in AP's yearly income was around 33 crore. The TTD used its income to: run Hospitals, run schools, provide meals for devotees who visited the temples, and even ran Gaushalas. The AP government essentially took the money, donated by Hindu devotees who visited from all over India, and siphoned off the funds for I quote "secular purposes." To further compare them to Gurdwaras: Gurdwaras are governed by the laws that Sikhs agitated for. Ultimately Sikhs can reform any Gurdwara that they view is being mismanaged or is misusing funds. Gurdwaras are also effectively only run by Sikhs themselves, as representatives of the community have the right to vote regarding Gurdwara management. The "Secular" Indian state appoints who runs Hindu temples. Hindus have no say in it. Just a few months ago, in West Bengal, a Muslim chela of Mamata Banerjee was appointed in charge of a Hindu temple. 10 years ago, a temple in Kerala had all its funds transferred to a Christian bank. Halls attached to Hindu temples are used for marriages of other communities, with even meat being served on temple premises. Think about that for a second. Christians and Muslims essentially believe that Hindus are nonbelievers and are going to be tortured and burnt alive for entirety after death because Hindus don't believe in Jesus/Allah. People who believe a common Hindu deserves that extent of torture, hatred, and punishment, simply for believing a different thing than them, can be put in charge of structures that are central to the Hindu community and can choose what to do with money/gold that is specifically donated for the development of Hindu society by Hindu devotees. Sikhs can definately kick out people in charge of Gurdwara, But Hindu's can kick out any leader of India. You people have 80% majority and in many states over 90%.If Ram temple , cows can be very big issue why not Temple management?.TBH I think Hindu's have so much diversity they themselves are afraid to touch this subject This person has explained How religious places are governed in India,he has advocated sikh model for Hindu temples Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Sikhs can definately kick out people in charge of Gurdwara, But Hindu's can kick out any leader of India. You people have 80% majority and in many states over 90%.If Ram temple , cows can be very big issue why not Temple management?.TBH I think Hindu's have so much diversity they themselves are afraid to touch this subject This person has explained How religious places are governed in India,he has advocated sikh model for Hindu temples I can say a lot of people I know voted for Modi expecting he will free Hindu temples, and if he doesn't by 2019, he won't get their votes next election. They would rather not vote than waste a vote on people from BJP/Congress who they consider looteras. They would rather use election time as a vacation if these guys don't do anything. Most Hindus, particularly those who are poor, were either uninformed on the issue or voted on roti-kapda-makan issues, but middle class types are much more aware of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 14 hours ago, Singh bling said: It has been banned , while dairy industry is promoted , just ask BJP Govt to ban dairy industry of cows That matters because? Look, clearly, you sound like someone that discovered the concept of utilitarianism recently that had an impact on you. You feel enlightened? Nothing enlightening about it. Fairly old concept. Brits justified the famine deaths on its basis. If you are really moved by the need to get the last ounce of utility from an animal, maybe start with your own species first? 90% of the human are redundant (number is probably higher in 3rd world heavens like India). How about saying goodbye to them? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 BSF jawan Deepak Kumar Mandal, attacked on Oct 16 by cow smugglers in Tripura, succumbs to injuries http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bsf-deepak-kumar-mandal-cattle-smuggling-tripura-india-bangladesh-border/1/1071981.html Tragic news, this is happening with alarming frequency in the states bordering Bangladesh (since September 2nd week, 4 BSF guards have laid down their lives trying to stop these *). High time we have shoot at sight orders when dealing with these cow smugglers, Shaheed Deepak Kumar didn't fire a single shot at the mob in spite of having a fully loaded rifle. Pretty sure that even if one of these smuggling scumbags had died, #NotInMyName clowns would have shut down half the metros with their BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 4:47 AM, surajmal said: That matters because? Look, clearly, you sound like someone that discovered the concept of utilitarianism recently that had an impact on you. You feel enlightened? Nothing enlightening about it. Fairly old concept. Brits justified the famine deaths on its basis. If you are really moved by the need to get the last ounce of utility from an animal, maybe start with your own species first? 90% of the human are redundant (number is probably higher in 3rd world heavens like India). How about saying goodbye to them? Just a thought. I feel really sorry for humans who think animal life is equal to human life. Last time I check pest control is legal business in world , so should we allow human killing business? Similarly ox is castrated and forced to plough field as human life is equal to animal we should allow slavery and people should be allowed to purchase humans castrate them and serve them for entire life Book_Worm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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