ICC chairman Manohar criticises Big Three revamp

[rkt.india]

BCCI president Shashank Manohar, who is also the ICC chairman, has criticised the imbalance of power within cricket's governing body because of the constitutional revamp last year, which gave the boards of India, England and Australia greater authority and a larger share of the revenue.

Manohar called the revamp "bullying", and said there were several faults in the ICC that he hoped to rectify during his term as chairman, which ends in June 2016.

"I don't agree with the three major countries bullying the ICC," Manohar told the Hindu. "That's my personal view, because as I have always said, an institution is bigger than individuals. You cannot guarantee which individual will occupy the top position in either of these countries. And, the ICC constitution, as it stands today, says that in all the major committees of the ICC, these three countries will be automatically there. So all the financial and commercial aspects and the executive committee will be controlled by the representatives of these three countries, which according to me is wrong. You should have the best man, whether he comes from Zimbabwe, or West Indies, or even from an associate or affiliate to work on a committee, who will promote the interests of the ICC."

Manohar was in Dubai last week to get acquainted with the ICC's functioning after the BCCI named him its representative to replace N Srinivasan, who had become the inaugural chairman last July. Srinivasan had been the main architect behind the Big Three plan, which was passed by the ICC board last February. When asked whether he would propose to other ICC board members to revoke the decisions taken last year, Manohar said he was speaking in his individual capacity and not as ICC. "I don't agree with that in principle. I am talking about myself. I don't know what will happen in the future."

Under the new governance structure, while the BCCI president became ICC chairman, the Cricket Australia chairman would head the five-member executive committee, and the ECB president would continue to head the ICC's Finance and Commercial Affairs (F&CA) committee, making sure the three boards had control over major policy decisions.

On January 9 last year, an F&CA committee "working group" comprising Srinivasan, Giles Clarke and Wally Edwards had presented the draft of their radical revamp to the rest of the ICC board. Central to the draft was the revenue distribution model, which was reworked to give the BCCI, ECB and CA a graded percentage share of ICC revenue, with a larger chunk going to these three boards than the rest.

In an interview with ESPNcricinfo, Srinivasan had said it was wrong to see the revamp as a takeover of the ICC by the BCCI, ECB and CA. "If I had to sum it up I will say the proposal gives financial stability to nations who play cricket," Srinivasan had said.

Manohar, however, was opposed to the revenue-sharing formula. "I don't agree with the revenue-sharing formula, because it's nice to say that India (BCCI) will get 22% of the total revenue of the ICC, but you cannot make the poor poorer and the rich richer, only because you have the clout. The ICC runs cricket throughout the world.

"Secondly there is another angle to it which nobody has thought of. India generates money because the other countries come and play in India. If you do not have a fierce competition, the broadcasters are not going to pay you and the sponsors are not going to sponsor your events. So whatever you generate through bilateral series is because there are good teams playing against you. If all teams are of the standards of the low placed ninth and tenth team and India is a good side, who is going to pay you; what interest would be left with the spectators to watch a game, if it's a one-sided game always. So if you reduce their corpus, their development is going to be hampered and ICC has to think from that point of view."

Manohar also expressed dissatisfaction at the possibility of conflict of interest because of the dual roles held by officials - at the ICC and at their home board. "According to me there is a conflict now at the ICC level, which I have to sort out. Under the present ICC constitution, the chairmanship is offered to the representative of the BCCI. Under the ICC constitution, after the annual conference, there is going to be an election and the person who is elected the chairman will continue only till the time he continues to be the representative of his country.

"So tomorrow here could be a scenario, wherein 'A' person is elected the chairman and after 10 days he is removed by his board, 'B' would take over as the chairman, and after four months that person is removed, 'C' would take over as chairman. When people vote, they vote for an individual; they don't vote for a member board. It's the competence of a person to lead the ICC is important, and keeping that in mind, people vote for him. According to me that clause is also a bad clause.

"Secondly when I am at the ICC as a BCCI representative, it's my paramount duty to protect the interests of the BCCI; then how can I protect the interests of the ICC, sitting as its chairman? If there is a conflict between the interest of the BCCI and the ICC, I will have to protect the interest of the BCCI. Then I am failing in my duty, sitting there as chairman of the ICC and not protecting its interests.

"So according to me there are many flaws in the ICC constitution, which was amended, because earlier the president's post was occupied by a person who had nothing to do with any board. The first requirement was he had to resign from his home board from all positions; with the result that he was not attending the ICC meetings as a representative of a member board. David Morgan, [Sharad] Pawar, Alan Issac, they resigned from their offices to sit as ICC presidents. This is a unique situation which has been created because of the amendment which creates, according to me, a direct conflict."

Manohar said he had already raised all these issues with Clarke and other senior ranking ICC officials. "I have spoken about these issues to Giles Clarke (ECB) and he agreed with me."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/944187.html

[amiret]

BCCI president echoing Najam Sethi's point of view.

How times have changed !

[Zap_Brannigan]

this guy is not good for Indian cricket

[G_B_]

I think he hit the nail on the head.

Cricket admin has become personality based than process based. I think there was a time when CSA and India were very close under the likes of Lalit Modi (during Pawar days) and Majola. IPL moved to SA and majola got major kickbacks. Then you had Srinivasan just not getting on with Lorgat. As a result India shortened their tour. Once Srini left once again it appears SA-India cricketing relations seem to be heading back to normality. While everybody has likes and dislikes, you can swing so drastically in a matter of years. For all we know the Sini faction comes back to power and series with SA is scrapped again.

I would like to see a situation whereby the post of BCCI president is abolished. Instead you have heads of west zone east zone north zone and south zone running cricket in this country as a panel. It will slow down decision making  but one person wont be able to dictate terms. 

Even if Manohar does a great job. If in 2 years Srini comes back then you are back to square 1.

 

[Lannister]

I think he'll do more damage to Indian cricket than Srini ever did. There was no need to come out and openly issue those statements. 

[Debutant]

What is wrong with this guy  

[vijay50]

Honest fecker.

[cric_fan]

this guy is not good for Indian cricket

Why not? Because he spoke out?

[Zap_Brannigan]

He spoke out about what?This guy is an idiot if he thinks all teams are equal. 

 

Lets get one thing clear. People pay money to watch Indian cricket and that's the major source of income for every single board. They dont pay to watch sri lankan cricket. So distributing that money equally means you are taking money that was earned by one board/country/players and giving it to poorly managed and thieving boards.  The big 3 takeover was BCCI finally stopping dropping its pants to every board and taken advantage off. No board helped India in the 70's and 80s. Do you think the other boards will help BCCI when its stocks drop. 

 

He is an idiot. BCCI needs someone ruthless to take helm to protect Indian crickets interest and stop bankrolling other boards. 

[jf1gp_1]

He spoke out about what?This guy is an idiot if he thinks all teams are equal. 

 

Lets get one thing clear. People pay money to watch Indian cricket and that's the major source of income for every single board. They dont pay to watch sri lankan cricket. So distributing that money equally means you are taking money that was earned by one board/country/players and giving it to poorly managed and thieving boards.  The big 3 takeover was BCCI finally stopping dropping its pants to every board and taken advantage off. No board helped India in the 70's and 80s. Do you think the other boards will help BCCI when its stocks drop. 

 

He is an idiot. BCCI needs someone ruthless to take helm to protect Indian crickets interest and stop bankrolling other boards. 

What we need is other teams in the world to promote its cricket better. Barring Bangladesh cricket standard and interest is sharply falling across all test cricket playing nations (Including India). If sharing money can help stop this slide so be it. This isnt NFL or EPL, international cricket is where all interest in India lies; we need others to keep the money rolling else a decade down the lane cricket will be where hockey is today. 

Edited November 29, 2015 by jf1gp_1

[beautifulgame]

What we need is other teams in the world to promote its cricket better. Barring Bangladesh cricket standard and interest is sharply falling across all test cricket playing nations (Including India). If sharing money can help stop this slide so be it. This isnt NFL or EPL, international cricket is where all interest in India lies; we need others to keep the money rolling else a decade down the lane cricket will be where hockey is today. 

What we need is Indian cricket improving .Its not our job to bankroll other countries

Just think how many world class bowlers we have produced in last 50 years .How many bowling academies do BCCI run in the country to find talent and train into the system like Australia does ?

They need to invest in the infrastructure in the country.Its virtually invisible outside big cities and the excuse often given is lack of money .So why fuck should we bankroll other countries when we can't invest in ourselves .Idiotic beyond belief.

[jf1gp_1]

What we need is Indian cricket improving .Its not our job to bankroll other countries

Just think how many world class bowlers we have produced in last 50 years .How many bowling academies do BCCI run in the country to find talent and train into the system like Australia does ?

They need to invest in the infrastructure in the country.Its virtually invisible outside big cities and the excuse often given is lack of money .So why fuck should we bankroll other countries when we can't invest in ourselves .Idiotic beyond belief.

Stop being this naive. Ignore everything else,  IPL money is ours to keep, 2008 the very first edition saw BCCI make upwards of 150crs (not even counting money they made by selling team rights for 10yrs ). Its a huge amount which could have been used to develop all that is there in your wish list and we should have seen the results by now. So what happened ? BCCI isnt improving internal situation because it doesnt have to nor want too, nothing to do with lack of money.  Other countries want to improve but dont have the resources. To keep cricket alive we need other countries as well. We arent going to help ourselves so why not help others a bit. 

[beautifulgame]

Stop being this naive. Ignore everything else,  IPL money is ours to keep, 2008 the very first edition saw BCCI make upwards of 150crs (not even counting money they made by selling team rights for 10yrs ). Its a huge amount which could have been used to develop all that is there in your wish list and we should have seen the results by now. So what happened ? BCCI isnt improving internal situation because it doesnt have to nor want too, nothing to do with lack of money.  Other countries want to improve but dont have the resources. To keep cricket alive we need other countries as well. We arent going to help ourselves so why not help others a bit. 

:lmao:

Most of these international boards just as corrupt or even worse than the BCCI or most state boards .

As for the Income generated from IPL etc in the past , plenty has been invested into domestic cricket .Just compare the salaries facilities provided cricketers compared with 10 years .Stadium infra are million miles better than in the past and most of the stadiums have been redeveloped as well.

BCCI even gives pension to former players.Only board in the world to facilitate such a thing in recent past if am not mistaken.

But the revenue generated and allocated to state associations is hardly sufficient when the need for investment is considered .

Yes our board and associate boards are corrupt (so is every other board in the world) but if u can't see the the improvement in Indian cricket in last 10-15 since TV money and IPL then u are clearly have no idea

[jf1gp_1]

:lmao:

 

Most of these international boards just as corrupt or even worse than the BCCI or most state boards .

 

As for the Income generated from IPL etc in the past , plenty has been invested into domestic cricket .Just compare the salaries facilities provided cricketers compared with 10 years .Stadium infra are million miles better than in the past and most of the stadiums have been redeveloped as well.

BCCI even gives pension to former players.Only board in the world to facilitate such a thing in recent past if am not mistaken.

 

But the revenue generated and allocated to state associations is hardly sufficient when the need for investment is considered .

 

Yes our board and associate boards are corrupt (so is every other board in the world) but if u can't see the the improvement in Indian cricket in last 10-15 since TV money and IPL then u are clearly have no idea

Domestic salaries have been going up since dalmiyas time, so lets not credit IPL money for it. I can only talk about  Chidambaram as a point of reference as thats the only stadium i have seen both in 2010 and 2014 honestly not much has changed. Might visit kotla next week, was last there over 10yrs back so lets see how much that has improved. 

You obviously came up with the most convenient argument, like any political party spokesman, everyone is corrupt so dont give anyone any money.  You are still missing the point i am trying to make about need for co-existence even when we are the financially stronger partner. Yes i am seeing a lot of improvement in Indian cricket, we are below pakistan in every single ICC ranking. Nice improvement from being No 1 just 3-4 yrs back and relying on dustbowls to win us test series. 

 

Edited November 29, 2015 by jf1gp_1

[beautifulgame]

Domestic salaries have been going up since dalmiyas time, so lets not credit IPL money for it. I can only talk about  Chidambaram as a point of reference as thats the only stadium i have seen both in 2010 and 2014 honestly not much has changed. Might visit kotla next week, was last there over 10yrs back so lets see how much that has improved. 

You obviously came up with the most convenient argument, like any political party spokesman, everyone is corrupt so dont give anyone any money.  You are still missing the point i am trying to make about need for co-existence even when we are the financially stronger partner. Yes i am seeing a lot of improvement in Indian cricket, we are below pakistan in every single ICC ranking. Nice improvement from being No 1 just 3-4 yrs back and relying on dustbowls to win us test series. 

 

Er u are the one who started the political argument that Indian boards are corrupt so they don't need more money.

Now u are confusing financial performance over a short period over long term investment .Then its clear IPL investment is why we won the world cup in 2012 and CT in 2013 .Great improvement in Indian cricket instead of being knocked out in first rounds by Bangladesh then .

[rkt.india]

 

What we need is Indian cricket improving .Its not our job to bankroll other countries

 

 

Just think how many world class bowlers we have produced in last 50 years .How many bowling academies do BCCI run in the country to find talent and train into the system like Australia does ?

 

They need to invest in the infrastructure in the country.Its virtually invisible outside big cities and the excuse often given is lack of money .So why fuck should we bankroll other countries when we can't invest in ourselves .Idiotic beyond belief.

 

ICC tournament money is peanuts in comparison to what BCCI earns through IPL and home series broadcasting and India team's sponsorship rights.  

[RedFever]

Does this guy Manohar suffer from a inferiority complex syndrome ?

[TheWall]

This guy will destroy cricket in India...

[maniac]

Srini love him or hate him....he showed the world who is boss.....the guy was like the Mafia....To an extent same with Dalmiya....last thing we need is a pacifistic assole to take us back into the 70's and 80's

[TheWall]

People like Srini,Dalmiya showed the power of India cricket and economy. This guy is hell bent on destroying that reputation until countries like pakistan back stab him.