Bigg Brother Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 why do people keep forgetting England was untouchable at there peak in 2011.. Salo ne Home series bhe legaya ham se That's when old once started to retire and we are in rebuilding phrase. We got trashed in AUS 4-0 next year and They got trashed 4-0 in India Pakistan did beat England at that time 3-0 at UAE..Also SA beat England 2-0 that too in England...England was good but they were never invincible. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Viper said: why do people keep forgetting England was untouchable at there peak in 2011.. Salo ne Home series bhe legaya ham se That's when old once started to retire and we are in rebuilding phrase. We got trashed in AUS 4-0 next year and They got trashed 4-0 in India Its not just about the losses. It is about his refusal to try anything different when things aren't going right. In Australia, our batting was disastrous. All the oldies were past their "Use By" date. We had Rohit Sharma and Rahane in the reserves. Yet, thrashing after thrashing, Dhoni kept playing the same batsmen over and over again. So, what is the point of picking a squad of 15-16 members? According to Dhoni, reserves seem to be only for injury cover. I cannot imagine any other team or any other captain that would have played the same batters who were walking wickets throughout the tour and not even considered utilizing the reserve batsmen that were available. express bowling and asterix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominick Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 He also lead us to a 3-0 thumping of Australia in T20s in the beginninging of this year. And the Asia cup win in March. All of these T20 events he captained. Yes, he's had a bad IPL. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debutant Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Have Pawn played all it's matches Don't want to see the old man embarrass himself again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 12 hours ago, Viper said: Lets be totally honest.. If you are the captain do you really think he can go to someone like sachin or dravid and say YOU ARE OUT OF FORM I WANT YOU TO SIT OUT FOR SOME YOUNGSTER and how would people react ? Its easy for us to say here.. Won't be easy when you are the captain of the team and go against Seniors.. Saw how much shit he got just for saying we got few seniors in the team and they were bit slow in the field which is 100% truth LOL we all saw how sehwag went nuts for saying that.. There. That itself shows that as a captain, his priorities were not right. As a captain your single point focus has to be to win a game, not "What will people think?" Steve Waugh didnt bat an eyelid before telling Shane Warne that he has been dropped for a Test Match. He still gets cr@p from Warne for that, but the fact is that Aus won that Test and Waugh still doesnt regret it. It was the right thing to do for the team. So, let's say Dravid and Sachin were "un-droppable". What about Sehwag, Gambhir, Laxman? They also all struggled. So, you are saying that all senior players should have confirmed guaranteed spots in the team and the captain should never drop any of them for poor performances? Tour stats: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=6636;team=6;type=series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourab10forever Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Aaao, chalo sab log, garma garam pie banaya hain. tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Anyone who wants MSD to retire from LOIs are not true Indian fans. He is easily the next best batter after Kohli and one of the biggest matchwinner. And most importantly a selfless individual with a no nonsense attitude. As I said before we are lucky to have a wicketkeepr batsman like him. Once he goes...we will be back to Mongia/MSK Prasad/Saba Karim/Samir Dighe days. If anyone followed 90s cricket would know what I am talking about. For a moment lets ignore his captaincy skills and brilliance behind the stumps. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk tweaker and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourab10forever Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 41 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Anyone who wants MSD to retire from LOIs are not true Indian fans. He is easily the next best batter after Kohli and one of the biggest matchwinner. And most importantly a selfless individual with a no nonsense attitude. As I said before we are lucky to have a wicketkeepr batsman like him. Once he goes...we will be back to Mongia/MSK Prasad/Saba Karim/Samir Dighe days. If anyone followed 90s cricket would know what I am talking about. For a moment lets ignore his captaincy skills and brilliance behind the stumps. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Rasgulla and asterix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 1 hour ago, MechEng said: Aaao, chalo sab log, garma garam pie banaya hain. We all know what happened when greatest t20 finisher came up against Nehraji. That game actually mattered unlike this one tweaker and asterix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Dhoni fans getting orgasms in a dead rubber match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I am never able to understand this....with this kind of awesome hitting ability why does Dhoni have a SR of only 121 after playing 68 T20Is ? tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourab10forever Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: I am never able to understand this....with this kind of awesome hitting ability why does Dhoni have a SR of only 121 after playing 68 T20Is ? Because he is dhoni Edited May 21, 2016 by sourab10forever tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcric Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: I am never able to understand this....with this kind of awesome hitting ability why does Dhoni have a SR of only 121 after playing 68 T20Is ? Dhoni mastered the ODI game. Preserving your wicket, running hard and occasional boundaries. He tries to play T20 like an ODI. But you don't have as many deliveries in a T20 game to play around with, especially at his batting position. You have to take risks and start hitting much earlier in your T20 innings. tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcric Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Also, he struggles against international fast bowlers in the death overs as they have good yorkers generally. His hitting zone is straight, he can't ramp or play square on the off-side (the other scoring options on yorkers). His SR is much better in IPL because many a times he faces Indian bowlers who miss their length often in the death overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, philcric said: Dhoni mastered the ODI game. Preserving your wicket, running hard and occasional boundaries. He tries to play T20 like an ODI. But you don't have as many deliveries in a T20 game to play around with, especially at his batting position. You have to take risks and start hitting much earlier in your T20 innings. Yes...Dhoni likes to get set and hit big only in the last couple of overs. ODIs are more suited to his style of play ...but he has a SR of 139 in the IPL and 121 in T20Is. Big difference. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcric Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Yes...Dhoni likes to get set and hit big only in the last couple of overs. ODIs are more suited to his style of play ...but he has a SR of 139 in the IPL and 121 in T20Is. Big difference. 5 minutes ago, philcric said: Also, he struggles against international fast bowlers in the death overs as they have good yorkers generally. His hitting zone is straight, he can't ramp or play square on the off-side (the other scoring options on yorkers). His SR is much better in IPL because many a times he faces Indian bowlers who miss their length often in the death overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, philcric said: Also, he struggles against international fast bowlers in the death overs as they have good yorkers generally. His hitting zone is straight, he can't ramp or play square on the off-side (the other scoring options on yorkers). His SR is much better in IPL because many a times he faces Indian bowlers who miss their length often in the death overs. He has hit international fast bowlers in the slog overs in ODIs quite often and hit them in the IPLs too. I get the impression that he does not really like playing the T20Is. Edited May 21, 2016 by express bowling Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 23 of 6 not even one star of the Present Team capable of doing such a thing.. Thread backfire Rohit sharma did it in 2009...Brathwaite did it in "International match"that too with 2 ball to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 In a dead rubber match yes, nobody's done it... against Indian pie chukars trying hard to impress the Indian team captain to get in the team... Mosher and Lannister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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