velu Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 For me waqar bowled loads of terrific inswinging yorkers and we are yet see any bowler who is comparable to him. These were almost unplayable. We rarely see inswinging yorkers these days. Bowlers like malinga usually bowl gun barrel straight yorkers. tweaker and Ankit_sharma03 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 two yorkers which were a nightmare for any indian fan , but after years when i see it i say woww velu and tweaker 2
velu Posted August 6, 2016 Author Posted August 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: two yorkers which were a nightmare for any indian fan , but after years when i see it i say woww akhtar manhandled NZ in their tour in 2008/09 guess .. took most of his wickets with yorkers waqar vs england in england was tragic for egland .. they were sitting ducks when ball started reversing
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 One of the most brilliant over was this by waqar to lara, how he allowed Lara to kept hitting him in covers for 4 which made his movement cross towards covers and then the Bananaaa inswing Mosher 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, velu said: akhtar manhandled NZ in their tour in 2008/09 guess .. took most of his wickets with yorkers waqar vs england in england was tragic for egland .. they were sitting ducks when ball started reversing Also in 2002 on Pak pitches, his yorker to fleming in 1999Wc. These video are available on youtube but with very bad quality. Those were gems. For me Stumps shattering was the most amazing sight in cricket better than even anyone's batting Edited August 6, 2016 by Ankit_sharma03
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 One of the Best overs, Every bowl deserved a wkt
velu Posted August 6, 2016 Author Posted August 6, 2016 padosi vs padosi for the top spot Ankit_sharma03 1
urnotserious Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) What's mind boggling for me a lot of times is most of these yorkers aren't super pacy 155K deliveries. They're mostly bowled at 140K-145K(Flintoff got Kallis twice in 2 overs on 85mph deliveries). I see Shami, Yadav and others bowling quicker all the time but much lesser batsmen being able to negotiate them with ease. Starc in Srilanka currently is a great example of that. His faster deliveries are 149-152Ks but his yorkers on which he picked up wickets were at low 140s. What and why can these bowlers do it at that pace against the likes of Kallis, Lara etc. and we struggle against the likes of Braithwaite and Chase at same or better pace. I'll throw the Ws out of this because they picked up wickets on yorkers due to bottle cork manufactured reverse swing rather than pace. Edited August 7, 2016 by urnotserious
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, urnotserious said: What's mind boggling for me a lot of times is most of these yorkers aren't super pacy 155K deliveries. They're mostly bowled at 140K-145K(Flintoff got Kallis twice in 2 overs on 85mph deliveries). I see Shami, Yadav and others bowling quicker all the time but much lesser batsmen being able to negotiate them with ease. Starc in Srilanka currently is a great example of that. His faster deliveries are 149-152Ks but his yorkers on which he picked up wickets were at low 140s. What and why can these bowlers do it at that pace against the likes of Kallis, Lara etc. and we struggle against the likes of Braithwaite and Chase at same or better pace. I'll throw the Ws out of this because they picked up wickets on yorkers due to bottle cork manufactured reverse swing rather than pace. Its generally the late swing that makes yorker lethal. Here is one example- Irfan pathan's excellent yorker, speed 133. But it was lethal becoz it swing really late,
urnotserious Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Its generally the late swing that makes yorker lethal. Here is one example- Irfan pathan's excellent yorker, speed 133. But it was lethal becoz it swing really late, Agreed, but people mistake that as pace. Wasim for example was never more than 140K bowler but got the notoriety of being fast due to his angle and swing rather than out and out pace. Rightarmfast 1
Trichromatic Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 1 hour ago, urnotserious said: Agreed, but people mistake that as pace. Wasim for example was never more than 140K bowler but got the notoriety of being fast due to his angle and swing rather than out and out pace. Wasim was more like Steyn? He could bowl quick whenever he wanted.
Mosher Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Bowlers need to bowl with a round arm action when the ball is reversing. Waqar's bowling action was perfect for reverse swing.
urnotserious Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 55 minutes ago, Vibhash said: Wasim was more like Steyn? He could bowl quick whenever he wanted. Steyn I've seen crank it up to 149K at times...Wasim I don't think even in his fastest spell ever hit that speed. Rightarmfast 1
rkt.india Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Aaron consistently bowled inswinging yorkers at Adelaide on India's last tour to Aus but batsmen are more equipped to handle them these days.
rkt.india Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 3 hours ago, urnotserious said: What's mind boggling for me a lot of times is most of these yorkers aren't super pacy 155K deliveries. They're mostly bowled at 140K-145K(Flintoff got Kallis twice in 2 overs on 85mph deliveries). I see Shami, Yadav and others bowling quicker all the time but much lesser batsmen being able to negotiate them with ease. Starc in Srilanka currently is a great example of that. His faster deliveries are 149-152Ks but his yorkers on which he picked up wickets were at low 140s. What and why can these bowlers do it at that pace against the likes of Kallis, Lara etc. and we struggle against the likes of Braithwaite and Chase at same or better pace. I'll throw the Ws out of this because they picked up wickets on yorkers due to bottle cork manufactured reverse swing rather than pace. trajectory and surprise element is also important when bowling yorkers.
Asim Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 For left handers, Waqar used to happily concede for 2 boundaries with juicy wide away going balls and next one the perfect in-swinging right in toes... Jayasuria used to be one easy victim of this... For Lara, he took 5 to set him up... Real amazing aspect was execution of final delivery...
urnotserious Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, Asim said: For left handers, Waqar used to happily concede for 2 boundaries with juicy wide away going balls and next one the perfect in-swinging right in toes... Jayasuria used to be one easy victim of this... For Lara, he took 5 to set him up... Real amazing aspect was execution of final delivery... Waqar got them with (bottle cap induced) swing more than anything else. Its no coincidence that his strike rate dropped from its lofty perch as that was revealed. Mosher 1
Asim Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Among Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib: Only shoaib used to take wickets mainly with 'Pace' factor or using angles etc... Wasim was just a 137k bowler but was some artist with ball; probably the most complete pacer I have seen... Waqar at his peak was unplayable because of pace with swing but even more importantly The Perfection... Rightarmfast 1
express bowling Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) After playing continuous T20s, batsmen have become more used to playing yorkers and bottle-caps can't be used any more. Edited August 7, 2016 by express bowling
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