Cricketics Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 So this proposal is based on Trump's Buy American Hire American theory but I can't help but say that India voting against US on Jersualem embassy issue might also play some part down the line and can hurt Indian workers. More I see these news, more I feel India should have abstained on the whole Palestine-Israel issue. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/proposed-tweak-in-h-1b-visa-rules-may-deport-upto-75000-indian-workers/articleshow/62334005.cms beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Indian govts have never understood the concept of 'country first'. Expected Modi to be different . We need to look at our interests first ...we have far too many problems of our own. They should learn from Trump. What have we ever got any thing by supporting the Palestinians ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 55 minutes ago, beetle said: Indian govts have never understood the concept of 'country first'. Expected Modi to be different . We need to look at our interests first ...we have far too many problems of our own. They should learn from Trump. What have we ever got any thing by supporting the Palestinians ? Yeah, this move can create inflation within India if 70k people have to to return to India. H1b is just a name, it is clearly directed towards India. H1b is basically India. India will forever be synonymous to it. Can’t believe what a poor decision Indian government took by not abstaining on Israel-Palestine issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Will not happen, just rumors. The Jerusalem decision was never in US interests, just pandering to US ally's and evangelical vote bank. Edited January 3, 2018 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 This happening trump cancelled h4 ead and this. See below is from the agency that issues visas. “The idea is to create a sort of ‘self- deportation’ of hundreds of thousands of Indian tech workers in the United States to open up those jobs for Americans,” said a U.S. source briefed by Homeland Security officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 10 hours ago, beetle said: Indian govts have never understood the concept of 'country first'. Expected Modi to be different . We need to look at our interests first ...we have far too many problems of our own. They should learn from Trump. What have we ever got any thing by supporting the Palestinians ? I agree but there are some other reasons principles that India follow in taking these sort of decisions.. As far as Modi and Trumps are concerned, both are nationalists and both are keeping their respective country first. 'Make In India' and 'Make America Great Again' have few things in common.. Nikki Hayley being Indian origin.. i doubt voting against America triggered H1/H4 decision.. Its a step towards 'Make America Great Again' bringing jobs back to US etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelinajohn9182 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) I agree with you :) Edited January 4, 2018 by angelinajohn9182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Aur karo UN mein israel ke againist vote.Why the hell do we need to support palestine?What purpose does it serve. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Aur karo UN mein israel ke againist vote.Why the hell do we need to support palestine?What purpose does it serve. H1B visa is not significant enough to influence such votes....yes it might help some Indian corporations who already have strong enough lobby in the US...it is like a give and take benefits for US corporations as well as Indian corporations. As far as NRIs on H1 goes apart from the hope or expectation that some of them might invest their $$$ in India it doesn’t benefit the Indian citizens or government in anyways...in fact NRI investment drives up real estate and other prices for Indians living in India. Sure there are other reasons they should have supported but this is a stupid reason for that. Edited January 4, 2018 by maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 H1B visa is not significant enough to influence such votes....yes it might help some Indian corporations who already have strong enough lobby in the US...it is like a give and take benefits for US corporations as well as Indian corporations. As far as NRIs on H1 goes apart from the hope or expectation that some of them might invest their $$$ in India it doesn’t benefit the Indian citizens or government in anyways...in fact NRI investment drives up real estate and other prices for Indians living in India. Sure there are other reasons they should have supported but this is a stupid reason for that.We have no reason to vote for Palestine.1965,1971,1999 all 3 wars, israel kept supplying us with arms to keep us going.Esp 1999 was won with big israeli help. beetle and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) @velu I mean minority appeasement Edited January 4, 2018 by maniac velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 49 minutes ago, maniac said: @velu I mean minority appeasement stilll i doubt whther it will work out for BJP .. anyway we shld have bycotted the resolution against USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakistan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Modi loving nationalists should throw a party on this as it will result in reverse brain drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pakistan said: Modi loving nationalists should throw a party on this as it will result in reverse brain drain. They do. Honestly India is developing at a good pace. There are really good areas in parts of India to settle than to linger in green card limbo while someone from Syria or even Pakistan get citizenship faster Indians get green card. Edited January 4, 2018 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 03/01/2018 at 11:45 AM, Cricketics said: Yeah, this move can create inflation within India if 70k people have to to return to India. H1b is just a name, it is clearly directed towards India. H1b is basically India. India will forever be synonymous to it. Can’t believe what a poor decision Indian government took by not abstaining on Israel-Palestine issue. H1B is a trivial issue for India , its ridiculous to equate that with the stand we tool in Israel-Palestine ( debatable its right or wrong ) . Inflation ? No sir you are exaggerating the impact 70K people can make in a country with a billion plus people . infact India needs more people who can consume today , good for the industry and economy . The obvious negative impact is only for already dead IT/Tech job market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 India right to vote against Trump H1B are a fraction of the supposed gain to the Indian economy than getting a good deal from KSA and Iran in oil. I really dont see how H1B are in Indian interests anyway. Yes on a personal level Indians can benefit. But how does the nation benefit? Remittances from the USA to India are poor compared to say the middle east. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, jusarrived said: H1B is a trivial issue for India , its ridiculous to equate that with the stand we tool in Israel-Palestine ( debatable its right or wrong ) . Inflation ? No sir you are exaggerating the impact 70K people can make in a country with a billion plus people . infact India needs more people who can consume today , good for the industry and economy . The obvious negative impact is only for already dead IT/Tech job market You should have read the post carefully. No one is saying its related to that per se, butt down the line it can hurt India if we continue to make such decisions. That's the whole point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cricketics said: You should have read the post carefully. No one is saying its related to that per se, butt down the line it can hurt India if we continue to make such decisions. That's the whole point Read carefully again and I dont know how else to interpret it of what you are saying now , Decision wrong/right it should not be taken to appease US or any other country , we are too big to toe anyone else line . US needs us as much as we need them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, G_B_ said: India right to vote against Trump H1B are a fraction of the supposed gain to the Indian economy than getting a good deal from KSA and Iran in oil. I really dont see how H1B are in Indian interests anyway. Yes on a personal level Indians can benefit. But how does the nation benefit? Remittances from the USA to India are poor compared to say the middle east. The benefits where there a decade or before , not the case anymore . At this point would rather have American companies set up operations in India and employ people here . These guys wont earn in dollars , but every rupee will be spent in India which is what matters G_B_ and beetle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, jusarrived said: Read carefully again and I dont know how else to interpret it of what you are saying now , Decision wrong/right it should not be taken to appease US or any other country , we are too big to toe anyone else line . US needs us as much as we need them . Of course, this whole bill won't pass because Trump usually speaks from his arse when he comes with new theory and comes up with things which are hard to imagine for most people but down the line what I feel, if they India keeps taking such decisions is what I feel will kind of force the USCIS or US Government to take certain actions which make life hell for Indian immigrants or HIB folks in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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