UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Mavi n Nagarkotti shld be given chances.They are great fielders and can contibute with the bat.Plunket may not be eng best no 3 bowler but is selected bcos of his all round skills.Nagarkotti or Mavi shld be groomed.Yuvraj too was picked just after the u19 wc without any major domestic experience and he served us for long.Same too for Nagarkotti n Mavi.What if the likes of Nagarkoti takes away all the endorsements of Kohli? Plus Nagarkoti is better looking than him anywaysSent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Rightarmfast and Ankit_sharma03 1 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 1. All the bowlers apart from Kuldeep performed below average. 2. Dhoni and Raina needs to be dropped as well. 3. Virat to be removed as captain. 4. If pigs could fly. Edited July 18, 2018 by Straight Drive UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
adi B Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: What if the likes of Nagarkoti takes away all the endorsements of Kohli? Plus Nagarkoti is better looking than him anyways Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk I think you are confusing arkotti with shubman gill Edited July 18, 2018 by adi B Laaloo and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Have to go with 5 specialist bowlers imo. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 10 hours ago, sensible-indian said: Krunal should be tried too. We have been saying that for long, he will give us gr8 balance UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We have been saying that for long, he will give us gr8 balance the problem is balance or imbalance with such players. You can say oh atleast he will contribute more than Karthik or Raina but that is not the point, Good or bad those guys are specialist bats and in Raina's case was supposed to get in a few overs. Krunal is not in the same league as them in terms of his batting reputation and then if he gets tonked in his first few overs,we are screwed. I hope he turns out to be a gun bat at the international level though Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I think you are confusing arkotti with shubman gillI am not Though Gill is good looking. That's why KJo, Shah Rukh and Gauri are so in love with him. Nagarkoti is better looking than Kohli. I mean, everybody in that U19 squad is better than Bandar Kohli. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk adi B 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: the problem is balance or imbalance with such players. You can say oh atleast he will contribute more than Karthik or Raina but that is not the point, Good or bad those guys are specialist bats and in Raina's case was supposed to get in a few overs. Krunal is not in the same league as them in terms of his batting reputation and then if he gets tonked in his first few overs,we are screwed. I hope he turns out to be a gun bat at the international level though reputation will only be build once he plays n what are our other options Vijay shankar - his s/r is a concern Axar n jadeja- their batting is crap hooda- hasnt done anything on A-tours to grab his chances Jadhav- he might get a chance next series, but hasnt done any gr8 either No batsman bowls for us , so we need to find that 6th bowler....at this point krunal looks the best option Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: reputation will only be build once he plays n what are our other options Vijay shankar - his s/r is a concern Axar n jadeja- their batting is crap hooda- hasnt done anything on A-tours to grab his chances Jadhav- he might get a chance next series, but hasnt done any gr8 either No batsman bowls for us , so we need to find that 6th bowler....at this point krunal looks the best option K.Pandya has a LIST A average of 33 with the bat and bowling average of 40.00. He has played 1 one first class game.27 years old. W.Sundar on the other hand was an opener at the junior level, has a first class 100 and was man of the series in his first international tournament.He is just 19 years old too. I think Sundar has a better upside than K.Pandya. We need to invest in Sundar lot more. Hardik while I think still has a long way to go,was atleast a unique talent and was also a young prodigy and is fine that he has gotten a lot of opportunities. Needs to convert soon. Shankar and Axar are not international material and Shankar is 28 years old,so not worth investing in at this point. Jadeja is your test bowler,the tag of allrounder is way past him at this point. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Global.Baba said: K.Pandya has a LIST A average of 33 with the bat and bowling average of 40.00. He has played 1 one first class game.27 years old. W.Sundar on the other hand was an opener at the junior level, has a first class 100 and was man of the series in his first international tournament.He is just 19 years old too. I think Sundar has a better upside than K.Pandya. We need to invest in Sundar lot more. Hardik while I think still has a long way to go,was atleast a unique talent and was also a young prodigy and is fine that he has gotten a lot of opportunities. Needs to convert soon. Shankar and Axar are not international material and Shankar is 28 years old,so not worth investing in at this point. Jadeja is your test bowler,the tag of allrounder is way past him at this point. Krunal vs sundar At no.6 u need a power game as well which krunal is miles ahead , sundar a better option either up the order or among tail that 1 Fc is due to injuries that has made him sit out for seasons Whats wrong in 28 age?? he still can play 6-7 yrs UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Krunal vs sundar At no.6 u need a power game as well which krunal is miles ahead , sundar a better option either up the order or among tail that 1 Fc is due to injuries that has made him sit out for seasons Whats wrong in 28 age?? he still can play 6-7 yrs Sundar if he becomes a proper batsman which he is according to RKT at international level who can bowl some overs will be more valuable than a guy you can't tell if is a batsman or a bowler. What power game? Dhoni,Raina,Pandey,Jadhav are all supposed to be power hitters.We see how they deal with good consistent bowling these days. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Sundar if he becomes a proper batsman which he is according to RKT at international level who can bowl some overs will be more valuable than a guy you can't tell if is a batsman or a bowler. Even if he becomes a proper batsman why to waste him at 6 then N among top 4-5 ....he wud never be able to compete with the talent of Shaw, gill, samson, pant, rahul at 6 u dnt need a proper batsman but more of a power hitter , most day he wud get 15 overs only Quote What power game? Dhoni,Raina,Pandey,Jadhav are all supposed to be power hitters.We see how they deal with good consistent bowling these days. UR xamples are poor Pandey power hitter??? Dhoni was a power hitter Raina isnt even an international batsman any more What these 3-4 do how does it relate to krunal batting???Krunal will pass or fail on his ability not on what others do Edited July 18, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Sundar's ability to hit the big shots is not bad. And this aspect would improve further with age. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Krunal vs sundar Sundar. Krunal doesn't give confidence. Not good enough in either. Sundar gives more confidence both as batsman and bowler. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, beetle said: Sundar. Krunal doesn't give confidence. Not good enough in either. Sundar gives more confidence both as batsman and bowler. Krunal is proven as a batsman at least in IPL. Sundar isnt yet and is too young. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Sundar. Krunal doesn't give confidence. Not good enough in either. Sundar gives more confidence both as batsman and bowler.Internal politics might ensure Axar and Krunal over SundarSent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Even if he becomes a proper batsman why to waste him at 6 then N a Sundar is a proper batsman who has been played as a bowler. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:42 AM, rkt.india said: I dont like Pandya as our 3rd seamer. Stokes isnt England's third seamer. He should be batting at 6 and playing as 6th bowler or fourth seamer. Yes. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 My 2 pence. These problems will keep happening. Not because we do not have talent in India. But because the power is concentrated too much with a few people. Sadly for Indian cricket, these people have always abused the power. Indian cricket team loses not lose because they are bad, but because of design. Kohli and Dhoni will not let proper talent come in. Even after the U19 win, Kohli had specifically made a comment that its going to take 3-4 yrs for the young talents to be considered. In hindsight, Kohli wants to hang on to his supremacy and not let any champion player come in and question his dominance. He has always anyway been a selfish, rude person. Why do we think he has changed? He hasnt, its just a PR stunt. So what's going to happen is, by the time all these young batsmen and the genuine quicks are brought in, they would have lost their steam already. And if we think that the Indian team is going to regroup and try to make changes, we are fooling ourselves. I have seen enough of Indian cricket. About 30+ odd years to understand that no change is going to happen. They are going to bully a weaker team sometime in near future and all will be forgotten!That is just load of nonsense, you are making as if Kohli is afraid of new talent.We are seeing how well those young bowlers are faring against lions. Don’t be under illusion that have great fast bowlers. Mavi and co we saw in IPL they need some seasoning.Who in IPL has shown that they are capable of blasting from Ball one and still be consistent.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, putrevus said: That is just load of nonsense, you are making as if Kohli is afraid of new talent. We are seeing how well those young bowlers are faring against lions. Don’t be under illusion that have great fast bowlers. Mavi and co we saw in IPL they need some seasoning. Who in IPL has shown that they are capable of blasting from Ball one and still be consistent. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thats exactly what I am saying and thats exactly what the truth is. I think you have been living under a cave for a while. RAZPOR and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
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