Texan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Even though we have done pretty well in Australia here, the squad selected is far from ideal. It has been largely thanks to the bowlers and a few batsmen (Pujara, Agarwal, Kohli) that we have been able to be so dominant in this series. If you had to select a Test team that India needs to pick going forward in 2019 and beyond, what would that be? Here's mine: AWAY: 1. Agarwal 2. Shaw 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Shubman Gill / Rahane 6. Hardik Pandya 7. Pant 8. Ashwin / Jadeja 9. Bhuvneshwar / Avesh Khan 10. Shami 11. Bumrah For home tests, depending on conditions, replace the two pacers with Jadeja and Kuldeep or keep one pacer and replace Pandya with the other spinner. New Contenders: 1. Shubman Gill has started off on a bang and is making truckload of runs in Ranji Trophy already. He could be played as a back-up opener or a middle order batsman. If Rahane's form doesn't improve much, then he could potentially replace Rahane. 2. Avesh Khan has been cranking up the pace and getting awkward bounce in the IPL. Now, he has backed that up with some solid Ranji performances. Possibly, worth trying as the third pacer in the team on away tours. 3. Rajneesh Gurbani needs to be considered as a possible player for away tours. He has an uncanny ability to get movement even from relatively dead tracks. 4. Hope Nagarkotti recovers soon and starts playing long format cricket. Very interested in his progress to see if he can become a genuine allrounder or a bowler with good pace. 5. Need to keep an eye on Krunal Pandya's domestic performances. Did well in the one FC game he played. 6. Shivam Dube has shown some early promise and needs to be fast tracked into "A" teams. Dropped for good (almost): 1. The three openers - Murali Vijay, Dhawan and KL Rahul have been very very poor over the last year or so. They no longer deserve to be in the squad. Go back and play domestics. Other openers who have been knocking the doors need to be given priority over these guys. If Shaw and Mayank don't work out, then try Priyank Panchal, Faiz Fazal or Shubman Gill before considering any of these guys again. 2. Need to stop picking Umesh Yadav on any away tours. His away average is 42 in 7 years of cricket and his economy rate is over 4. So, he is neither wicket-taking nor a run controlling option. At home, he can still play in some matches on dust bowls where he gets some reverse swing. In Squad, but not in XI: Ishant Sharma could still be picked in the squad, but should no longer be an automatic choice for the XI. Dropped, but may be considered again: 1. Not convinced with Hanuma Vihari yet. Very poor with playing short pitched bowling. Needs to work on it. Should be kept in "A" teams and sent for away tours to work on this weakness. 2. Not convinced on Rohit Sharma for Tests yet. He seems suited to white ball cricket only. Could go back to "A" team for away tours. Edited January 5, 2019 by Texan diehardpacer, Yoda-esque, zen and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
zen Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Nice analysis In 2019, we would be playing series, which are a part of WTC. Our schedule as below: Ind's schedule 2019 July: In WI (2 Tests) Oct: vs SA (3 Tests) Nov: vs BD (2 Tests) 2020 Feb: In NZ (2 Tests) Nov: In Aus (4 Tests) 2021 Jan: vs Eng (5 Tests) June: Final (TBD) Our major challenge would be from Nov 2020 to June 2021 period, so I would want to start developing spinners such as Kuldeep as well esp considering we are mostly playing at home in 2019 Preferred 11 for 2019 Agarwal Shaw Pujara Kohli Gill Pant Pandya Jadeja / (pacer if required) Kuldeep Shami Bumrah Link to comment
Texan Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Agree on Kuldeep. Don't know if we have any other spinners in domestics who can get to the top level. Possibly Rahul Chahar?? Haven't seen him bowl much. Link to comment
zen Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Stats for the the series in Aus, shows the edge that Kuldeep can bring to the bowling attack Batting View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Dec 2018 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 16 of 16 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s CA Pujara 4 7 0 521 193 74.42 1258 41.41 3 1 1 50 2 MA Agarwal 2 3 0 195 77 65.00 375 52.00 0 2 0 19 5 RR Pant 4 7 1 350 159* 58.33 473 73.99 1 0 0 31 5 V Kohli 4 7 0 282 123 40.28 684 41.22 1 1 1 31 1 RG Sharma 2 4 1 106 63* 35.33 199 53.26 0 1 0 7 3 AM Rahane 4 7 0 217 70 31.00 463 46.86 0 2 0 18 3 RA Jadeja 2 3 0 90 81 30.00 123 73.17 0 1 0 9 1 GH Vihari 3 5 0 111 42 22.20 328 33.84 0 0 0 12 0 R Ashwin 1 2 0 30 25 15.00 94 31.91 0 0 0 1 0 M Vijay 2 4 0 49 20 12.25 154 31.81 0 0 1 4 0 KL Rahul 3 5 0 57 44 11.40 102 55.88 0 0 1 5 1 Bowling View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Dec 2018 Ordered by bowling strike rate (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 16 of 16 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 Kuldeep Yadav 1 1 31.5 6 99 5 5/99 5/99 19.80 3.10 38.2 1 0 JJ Bumrah 4 8 157.1 48 357 21 6/33 9/86 17.00 2.27 44.9 1 0 Mohammed Shami 4 8 136.4 28 419 16 6/56 6/136 26.18 3.06 51.2 1 0 I Sharma 3 6 103.0 21 262 11 4/41 5/86 23.81 2.54 56.1 0 0 RA Jadeja 2 3 89.0 25 200 7 3/82 5/127 28.57 2.24 76.2 0 0 R Ashwin 1 2 86.5 22 149 6 3/57 6/149 24.83 1.71 86.8 0 0 GH Vihari 3 5 35.0 8 94 2 2/53 2/84 47.00 2.68 105.0 0 0 UT Yadav 1 2 37.0 3 139 2 2/78 2/139 69.50 3.75 111.0 0 0 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 hours ago, zen said: Stats for the the series in Aus, shows the edge that Kuldeep can bring to the bowling attack Batting View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Dec 2018 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 16 of 16 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s CA Pujara 4 7 0 521 193 74.42 1258 41.41 3 1 1 50 2 MA Agarwal 2 3 0 195 77 65.00 375 52.00 0 2 0 19 5 RR Pant 4 7 1 350 159* 58.33 473 73.99 1 0 0 31 5 V Kohli 4 7 0 282 123 40.28 684 41.22 1 1 1 31 1 RG Sharma 2 4 1 106 63* 35.33 199 53.26 0 1 0 7 3 AM Rahane 4 7 0 217 70 31.00 463 46.86 0 2 0 18 3 RA Jadeja 2 3 0 90 81 30.00 123 73.17 0 1 0 9 1 GH Vihari 3 5 0 111 42 22.20 328 33.84 0 0 0 12 0 R Ashwin 1 2 0 30 25 15.00 94 31.91 0 0 0 1 0 M Vijay 2 4 0 49 20 12.25 154 31.81 0 0 1 4 0 KL Rahul 3 5 0 57 44 11.40 102 55.88 0 0 1 5 1 Bowling View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Dec 2018 Ordered by bowling strike rate (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 16 of 16 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 Kuldeep Yadav 1 1 31.5 6 99 5 5/99 5/99 19.80 3.10 38.2 1 0 JJ Bumrah 4 8 157.1 48 357 21 6/33 9/86 17.00 2.27 44.9 1 0 Mohammed Shami 4 8 136.4 28 419 16 6/56 6/136 26.18 3.06 51.2 1 0 I Sharma 3 6 103.0 21 262 11 4/41 5/86 23.81 2.54 56.1 0 0 RA Jadeja 2 3 89.0 25 200 7 3/82 5/127 28.57 2.24 76.2 0 0 R Ashwin 1 2 86.5 22 149 6 3/57 6/149 24.83 1.71 86.8 0 0 GH Vihari 3 5 35.0 8 94 2 2/53 2/84 47.00 2.68 105.0 0 0 UT Yadav 1 2 37.0 3 139 2 2/78 2/139 69.50 3.75 111.0 0 0 only when you post a big total. his ER is a concern in a low scoring game. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Tests Outside Asia -- 1. Shaw 2. Agarwal 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Gill 6. Pant 7. Pandya / Vihari 8. Kuldeep / Jadeja 9. Ishant / Avesh / Rajpoot 10. Avesh / Shami 11. Bumrah 12. Vihari / Pandya 13. Rahane 14. K. S. Bharat 15. Jadeja / Kuldeep 16. Shami / Avesh 17. Rajpoot 18. Mavi 19. Bhuvi Tests in Asia -- 1. Shaw 2. Agarwal 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Gill 6. Pant 7. Ashwin / ( Pandya against weak teams ) 8. Jadeja 9. Kuldeep 10. Shami 11. Avesh / ( Bumrah against big teams ) 12. Vihari 13. Pandya 14. Bumrah 15. Mavi 16. Siraj -- Time to look ahead and plan for the test Championship. The solitary test against very weak Zimbabwe in March 2019 and 2 tests in July 2019 against weak WI in WI, are ideal for grooming youngsters like Avesh, Mavi, Rajpoot, Shaw, Gill, Agarwal, Vihari, Kuldeep and Pandya -- It is time to let go of Vijay and Rohit in the name of experience. Young and inexperienced batters like Agarwal, Shaw and Pant have shown that they are more hungry for success and can perform better in big games than below average veterans. Same logic applies to pacers like Umesh. -- Rahul needs to go back to FC. -- Try Kuldeep as the first spinner against weak WI in WI. Give him the responsibility and see how he does. If he comes good, we can have a more potent attack in SENA. -- Try Avesh, Mavi and Rajpoot against the weak teams in the next 3 tests. Edited January 9, 2019 by express bowling diehardpacer and philcric 2 Link to comment
krisIndianFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Pandya seems to be a Flat-track-bully.. not much technique to last in the test team oversees.. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) On 1/5/2019 at 11:36 PM, zen said: In 2019, we would be playing series, which are a part of WTC. Our schedule as below: Ind's schedule 2019 July: In WI (2 Tests) Oct: vs SA (3 Tests) Nov: vs BD (2 Tests) 2020 Feb: In NZ (2 Tests) Nov: In Aus (4 Tests) 2021 Jan: vs Eng (5 Tests) June: Final (TBD) Our COMPLETE TEST FTP for 4 years ... 2019 March vs Zimbabwe at home ( 1 test ) Test Championship Starts July vs WI away ( 2 tests ) October vs South Africa at home ( 3 tests ) November vs Bangladesh at home ( 2 tests ) ( 9 tests in 2019 including 1 in Australia ) 2020 February vs NZ away ( 2 tests ) November vs Australia away ( 4 tests ) ( 6 tests in 2020 ) 2021 January vs England at home ( 5 tests ) June vs England away ( 5 tests ) ( 2nd series vs England in the same year, both home and away ) June Test Championship Final November vs NZ at home ( 2 tests ) December vs South Africa away ( 3 tests ) ( At least 15 tests in 2021 ) 2022 February vs SL at home ( 3 tests ) October vs Australia at home ( 4 tests ) November vs Bangladesh away ( 2 tests ) ( 9 tests in 2022 ) Edited January 10, 2019 by express bowling zen and Tendulkar1996 1 1 Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2021 is a catastrophic schedule. Bowlers will be exhausted after 4 tests in fall of 2020 in australia.Immediately after returning in january we will get england for 5 tests at home.Wtf.Then IPL. Then at june again england 5 tests away.Then test championship final. Then nov 2 tests vs nz at home and then 3 tests away to SA in dec 2021.This schedule will end the career of some of our fast bowlers ,might even lead to home series loss if we are not careful.The january 5 home tests vs england need to be rescheduled to mid 2020. Link to comment
kirkutfan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 So, we play Australia in Australia twice? Thought the next contest would be at home. Link to comment
maniac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rohit Sharma has to be accommodated somewhere for his game changing advices and also his awesome 50 in the 3rd test Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, krisIndianFan said: Pandya seems to be a Flat-track-bully.. not much technique to last in the test team oversees.. Neither was SA 1st test pitch flat deck Neither was a deck in Aus A tour where he made 79 . Its a was seaming track with pink ball where every batsman in our team failed n he was the only who got runs Even in England he was showing application in every innigs , opp bowling was so good that apart from kohli everyone struggled. LWe are talking about broad, anderson, curran , woakes in their own backyard Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Things that team needs to do for next overseas cycle IPL starts early n also finish early this time so likes of Rahane, pujara, ishant, umesh, ashwin, jadeja, Saha, Varun Aaron shud all go play county cricket If their is no A-tour Vihari, nair, mayank n shaw can also go but high chance BCCI will have an A-tour. IF the A-tour is in India better let these guys go n play county. IF siraj is applicable till then him to . IF not this year atleast next year a yr before we go england Dont abandon guys like rahane n ashwin which m sure they want . They have issues which can be solved. U dnt get such quality players every day Whenever possible continue the idea of taking some extra bowlers overseas if it doesnt hamper them playing A-games or missing many Ranji games Have powerful bunch of selector who has an eye for talent, not biased and understands modern game like - yuvraj, gambhir , agarkar . One fast bowler shud be a must in selection commmitee take the burden of LOI captaincy from kohli Manage kohli n bumrah's workload Get rid of dhawan , rohit, parthiv, karthik from test cricket . If dhawan n Rohit really wants to prove themselves and do well in test - Go play county post IPL next year even if it means missing national duty unless the series is to big that team cant allow them and ofcourse make pile of runs . Tendulkar1996 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 5:57 AM, Texan said: Agree on Kuldeep. Don't know if we have any other spinners in domestics who can get to the top level. Possibly Rahul Chahar?? Haven't seen him bowl much. whatever i hve seen this season he has lacked control but he is very young.....will only get better as he plays more. Nothing to panic as ashwin, jadeja, kuldeep arent retiring and i think their is gopal who needs to get in a look now as well . K gowtham is also an option Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: 2021 is a catastrophic schedule. Bowlers will be exhausted after 4 tests in fall of 2020 in australia. Immediately after returning in january we will get england for 5 tests at home.Wtf.Then IPL. Overseas series are lead by pacers Home series by spinner We have enough bench strength now. We can play umesh only for home series 8 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: Then at june again england 5 tests away.Then test championship final. This is where bench strength comes in play 8 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: Then nov 2 tests vs nz at home and then 3 tests away to SA in dec 2021.This schedule will end the career of some of our fast bowlers ,might even lead to home series loss if we are not careful.The january 5 home tests vs england need to be rescheduled to mid 2020. Home series will only have 2 pacers ....can play diff bowlers as well if needed Its all about management Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Overseas series are lead by pacers Home series by spinner We have enough bench strength now. We can play umesh only for home series This is where bench strength comes in play Home series will only have 2 pacers ....can play diff bowlers as well if needed Its all about management We might lose home series if we are not careful and rotate too much or get hit by too many injuries.The 5 test match home series vs england needs to eb shifted to 2020 mid.That way both years will have 11 tests instead of 6 and 16. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 21 hours ago, express bowling said: Test Championship Starts July vs WI away ( 2 tests ) October vs South Africa at home ( 3 tests ) November vs Bangladesh at home ( 2 tests ) ( 9 tests in 2019 including 1 in Australia ) 2020 February vs NZ away ( 2 tests ) November vs Australia away ( 4 tests ) ( 6 tests in 2020 ) 2021 January vs England at home ( 5 tests ) June vs England away ( 5 tests ) ( 2nd series vs England in the same year, both home and away ) June Test Championship Final We have 3 home and 4 away series before the final. This includes 1 home and 1 away series against weaker teams. That means 2 home and 3 away series against the big teams. This is not right ... we should have had another home series against a big team. Link to comment
zen Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, express bowling said: We have 3 home and 4 away series before the final. This includes 1 home and 1 away series against weaker teams. That means 2 home and 3 away series against the big teams. This is not right ... we should have had another home series against a big team. For WTC, only 6 series are counted. 3 Home + 3 Away. There is a thread on this: express bowling 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Think tank seems to be comfortable with 7+ 4 combination. Guess that is what we will see more often like in this Australia test series. Link to comment
zen Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: Think tank seems to be comfortable with 7+ 4 combination. Guess that is what we will see more often like in this Australia test series. Not much useful in conditions in WI and Ind, esp when we have batsmen like Shaw, Agarwal, Pujara, Kohli, Pant, etc., who can all bat effectively in such conditions Even in Aus, it failed as KL, Vijay, Vihari, Rahane and Rohit were below avg or passengers. Runs largely came from Pujara, Agarwal, Kohli and Pant (WK) Edited January 10, 2019 by zen Link to comment
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