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1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

Saloh you guys keep saying I don't want India to play Pak in cricket etc and then ou go over too padosi sites and then come reporting their filth here. Why worry about that site. If you are so interested, just look at the site and keep it to yourself. 

 

Next time when any ICFers report their filth and shyt here, look in the mirror. Stop contradicting. Ek side pe toh our Indian team shouldn't go anywhere to play Pak, and on other side you are helping run their website. 

 

 

unfortunately there  are a few of them ...mash .... they will do any thing for a membership... people with self pride can't take it beyond a limit.

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5 hours ago, Vilander said:

What Mughals did to Sikhs is a known fact to Sikhs, they have always considered them as enemies. What Congress party workers did to Sikh families in Delhi & Kanpur during 84 riots is also very damaging...if only any non-congress party had brought the baby killers & rapists to justice after they took office....the bitter feeling would've been limited to Kangress party only. What kinda bravado is this when mobs in hundreds killed & burn't even toddlers alive....all in the presence of the police which is supposed to protect ALL of it's citizens in a Democracy.

 

 

 

  

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7 hours ago, Vilander said:

Guys in order to know the enemy well you need to stop simply hating them and start studiying them closely and exhaustively, you should detest them fully. Be prepared to do every deed even fraud and  trick in the book to totally destroy them. Indians should know that henceforth there can never be a good pakistani. For Indians pakistan does not exist as a group of  humans.

+1, 

Too many Indians abroad happily mingle and form friendships with Pakistanis

Know of them but avoid them at all costs, even In work keep it confine it to work.

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10 hours ago, sergio04 said:

i have quited pakpassion today...

won't visit that terrorist site..

And there are some poster freelance cricketer , Bhaag veeru bhaag calling themselves indian, they suck to muslims and hate hindus to core.

prehaps they are muslim themselves.

 

I never made an account there, because I did not it want to contribute to their prosperity. The more quality posts they get from our posters, the genuine sponsors give them advertisements. That's how our posters are helping them prosper.

 

Choke their money, that is what they are begging at individual and country level.  They won't be able to choke jobs of Indians as their people are not as educated as others are and also their women do not work. Shortage of resources will keep Indians employed everywhere due to intellect we possess. Keep them away from jobs and they will struggle if the single bread owner is jobless. Let us not depend on only the army, every normal citizen with some authority can help in fighting terrorism.

 

Financially their people as well as a lot of those countries are messed up . Even so many civil wars in those countries means they are hardly going to improve financially in next decade.

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10 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

well please do visit the Dal Khalsa facebook page... its a extremist anti india and anti hindu organisation. As i said there is a sizeable majority who are like this but there are also others who fall under the pro india/ on the fence. Some of my best friends are Sikhs here in the UK just to add.

So just because there is a Facebook page that means all U.K. Sikhs support them. Most U.K. Sikhs have no idea of what Dal Khalsa is.

 

It’s like me saying there is an RSS or Tamil Tigers Page on Facebook and therefore all Hindus are their supporters.

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Pakistanis can be described in 1 pic...bloody whores with no dignity, manners, humanity. Jaahil beghairat pedophilic jhaat ke baal qaum. I can't wait for the day that sorry excuse of a country goes the way of the West Asian cesspits. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

So just because there is a Facebook page that means all U.K. Sikhs support them. Most U.K. Sikhs have no idea of what Dal Khalsa is.

 

It’s like me saying there is an RSS or Tamil Tigers Page on Facebook and therefore all Hindus are their supporters.

Did you not read the rest of my post? seems like you have selective reading syndrome.

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17 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Did you not read the rest of my post? seems like you have selective reading syndrome.

It seems like you were spewing nonsense. You said that there was a sizeable majority of Sikhs who are into supporting groups like Dal Khalsa. This is not the case at all.

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13 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

I fail to see why Indians go to their site. There are still posters on this site who go there. Guys stop going there. Stop funding terrorists.

Its because their website comes ahead as cricket forum in google search.

Also most Indians youg ones easily get impressed with quality of “English” on their site.

What they fail to recognise is that Pakistani buls-hit in Pakhtoon or Urdu or English is same.

 

Also, most being British born can play with words and satire easily. A lot of Indian dont even realise when they are making fun of them.

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8 minutes ago, mishra said:

Its because their website comes ahead as cricket forum in google search.

Also most Indians youg ones easily get impressed with quality of “English” on their site.

What they fail to recognise is that Pakistani buls-hit in Pakhtoon or Urdu or English is same.

Exactly which happened with me, a few years back during an ICC tourney I signed up thanks due to my naivety or should I say stupidity. Watching the open bias & hate, I never posted even once. Then as a lurker went through the old posts, then I realized my mistake & moved on. Its no good visiting that site & making your blood boil. 

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Exactly which happened with me, a few years back during an ICC tourney I signed up thanks due to my naivety or should I say stupidity. Watching the open bias & hate, I never posted even once. Then as a lurker went through the old posts, then I realized my mistake & moved on. Its no good visiting that site & making your blood boil. 
Yup same with me. 10 years back I discovered it and I learnt about ICF from there too.
I was one of those hippy left leaning guys back then and used to enjoy posting there. But as time passed I changed and I can't bear that site anymore.

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20 minutes ago, nikred said:

Yup same with me. 10 years back I discovered it and I learnt about ICF from there too.
I was one of those hippy left leaning guys back then and used to enjoy posting there. But as time passed I changed and I can't bear that site anymore.

Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
 

And then marriage happened? :((

 

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Here is what happens there.

 

They say something stupid, you get tempted to stand up and counter. Then your post gets deleted.

 

They say something totally unacceptable and you try to stand up for it and then they realize how pathetic the other post was and both posts get deleted.

 

They can’t have a rational argument about Jinnah,Brit Paks or Islam in gerneral.

 

Threads showing them a mirror get deleted and eventually you get banned if you get too hot to handle.

 

So what’s really a point of posting there?

 

There are some Brit Pakistani who are more ignorant than the ones living in Pakistan. 

 

Total waste of time to post there unless you enjoy their meltdown which is totally worth it, so

maybe lurking once in a while is fine :giggle: but will try not to give them those hits either.

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1 hour ago, Laaloo said:

I fail to see why Indians go to their site. There are still posters on this site who go there. Guys stop going there. Stop funding terrorists.

Am one of the guys who visit the site , infact did a lot more there than I did here in the past . One reason probably though is that there is more to disagree in a pak site than an Indian one , so as a forum that’s what appeals to lot of Indians . 

As much as I hate everything about paks role , one thing am firmly against is this policy of boycotting everytime an incident like this happens. It’s a very soft stance imo . It’s like how you fought as kids , stop talking to someone cos he threw a stick at you . I would beat the **** out of that kid if I could and if my response to stop talking to him , it’s cos am weak .

A lot of guys here living overseas have pak friends, are they going to stop talking to them ? 

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1 minute ago, jusarrived said:

Am one of the guys who visit the site , infact did a lot more there than I did here in the past . One reason probably though is that there is more to disagree in a pak site than an Indian one , so as a forum that’s what appeals to lot of Indians . 

As much as I hate everything about paks role , one thing am firmly against is this policy of boycotting everytime an incident like this happens. It’s a very soft stance imo . It’s like how you fought as kids , stop talking to someone cos he threw a stick at you . I would beat the **** out of that kid if I could and if my response to stop talking to him , it’s cos am weak .

A lot of guys here living overseas have pak friends, are they going to stop talking to them ? 

But we are indirectly contributing to their well being , aren't we? 

I didn't know earlier that that website was a profitable venture.

Look at their smugness and the rubbish such as 'what goes around comes back around' etc. Will surely boil anyone's blood.

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My Observation about PakPassion:

You people are lucky to be at least able to register at PP and also make some posts.

I am in much worst condition than you are at PP. I am hunted right from the time of registration and banned as soon as it is confirmed that ID belongs to me. 

 

 

My Observation about IndianCricketFans:

During my whole stay I observed that ICF has lot of RW supporters as members, but hardly any Congress or other party supporter. The parallel thread about voting the political parties is also showing this same trend. 

 

I may be wrong, but I fear that Indian society has been polarized a lot. The RW of India is not flexible enough to accommodate the others and give them chance to express themselves and to criticize them. 

 

And this may be a reason that many of Indian Secularist posters or the Indian Muslims feel comfortable enough to express their opinions at the PP as compared to the RW dominated forum here. 

 

Admins/Mods at ICF are fair enough and don't seem to be a part of this problem in my opinion.

 

Conclusion: 

I may be wrong/terribly wrong. But what if my fears are correct? Is there a positive way to reform and overcome this problem? 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

If they are benefiting financially because of Indians and are also mocking our braves, every self-respecting Indian should boycott their forum. Least that can be expected, spend the extra time on ICF and do your bit to improve the discussion quality here. We will always trump them in any intellectual pursuit, only problem our site owners are hobbyists and most of us are busy with our jobs/studies. But with enough participation and quality, ICF can be the point of convergence for many cricket fans globally. And not just cricket, the scope of discussion can extend to other sports, politics, economics, history, science tech, movies etc. 

 

Hope lurkers join ICF ASAP. Even if you aren't big cricket fans, less knowledgeable or have confidence issues w.r.t English language, don't hesitate. Join our forum and we can all help each other. Spend some time here and you won't regret your decision. Decent enough FOE, democracy, nice blokes, passion....you will appreciate the merits of this forum once you invest some time.  

Always better to avoid Jihadis at all costs. 

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17 hours ago, chewy said:

+1, 

Too many Indians abroad happily mingle and form friendships with Pakistanis

Know of them but avoid them at all costs, even In work keep it confine it to work.

Overseas Pakistani aren’t our cocern. Our concern should be to avoid Pakistan, the country, cut ties with them as a nation, send them a word a just for once make this a big deal in the world news. 

 

This skipping few cricket games won’t just help. Take bigger action, like bringing Russia and israel into this and make it a big deal about leaving g20 meetings if Pak is not nominated and declared as a terrorist state by USA and the whole world. Make it a big deal out of this, instead of just wondering and planning whether we need to play cricket or not with them.

 

Lets not leave it to sports like Davis cup team

playing in Pak or Indian team playing in worle cup after this. Cricket is seriously nothing. Lives of these people who died and have died in the past is more important than a sport match which will be either won or lost and life can continue. Those families who keep losing their loved ones can’t continue their lives that easily. 

 

Fk the sport at this time and the talk about whether we should worry about Indian team playing or not.

 

Lets just worry about cutting other ties and making it a damn big deal. Call for emegency meetings with the world leaders. Invite them to India and make them declare Pak terrorist state.

 

 

 

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Brit Pakistani are the biggest scum. This bs that overseas Pakistani is a  oh cho cheery Bollywood loving desi needs to stop.

 

In US and maybe in Canada they don’t have such a big voice. Even here I have seen 2nd gen kids wearing Hijabs and growing beards gradually. These guys are poison.

 

I have interacted with a few professionally and they seem like nice blokes but that is no different from a prejudiced white guy just getting along for the sake of corporate diversity rules.

 

These Guys have been brainwashed for so long that, it can’t be undone in a few years. Pakistanis are going to be Pakistanis and won’t have a rational thought. It is no different from South Korea not knowing what to do with North Korean refugees who have been rendered useless due to years of mind fk and putting them in reality shows for their own amusement. 

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8 hours ago, Cricketics said:

Overseas Pakistani aren’t our cocern. Our concern should be to avoid Pakistan, the country, cut ties with them as a nation, send them a word a just for once make this a big deal in the world news. 

 

This skipping few cricket games won’t just help. Take bigger action, like bringing Russia and israel into this and make it a big deal about leaving g20 meetings if Pak is not nominated and declared as a terrorist state by USA and the whole world. Make it a big deal out of this, instead of just wondering and planning whether we need to play cricket or not with them.

 

Lets not leave it to sports like Davis cup team

playing in Pak or Indian team playing in worle cup after this. Cricket is seriously nothing. Lives of these people who died and have died in the past is more important than a sport match which will be either won or lost and life can continue. Those families who keep losing their loved ones can’t continue their lives that easily. 

 

Fk the sport at this time and the talk about whether we should worry about Indian team playing or not.

 

Lets just worry about cutting other ties and making it a damn big deal. Call for emegency meetings with the world leaders. Invite them to India and make them declare Pak terrorist state.

 

 

 

Of course those actions are necessary but those diplomatic and government level actions, nothing the average Indian or Indian origin guy can do to influence...just have to trust the leaders take necessary actions 

 

I wasn't even inferring to sports, I am talking about at individual level where Indians abroad happily mingle with Pakistanis because mainly of shared language and culture, and I am pretty sure their (pakistanis) opinion on India will never change and remain indifferent, because at the end what ever shared culture, their Pakistani identity is forged on being a Muslim and have been brought up on a diet of India as a Hindu empire wanting to wipe out Muslims in South Asia, even the educated ones are so bloody ignorant not realising there are more Muslims in India than Pak.

 

I worked long periods in UK, and seen Indians eating in Pak owned restaurants, buying from Pak owned grocery stores, from work Indians going out with Pak co-workers for dinners and in some cases holidays 

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2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Brit Pakistani are the biggest scum. This bs that overseas Pakistani is a  oh cho cheery Bollywood loving desi needs to stop.

 

In US and maybe in Canada they don’t have such a big voice. Even here I have seen 2nd gen kids wearing Hijabs and growing beards gradually. These guys are poison.

 

I have interacted with a few professionally and they seem like nice blokes but that is no different from a prejudiced white guy just getting along for the sake of corporate diversity rules.

 

These Guys have been brainwashed for so long that, it can’t be undone in a few years. Pakistanis are going to be Pakistanis and won’t have a rational thought. It is no different from South Korea not knowing what to do with North Korean refugees who have been rendered useless due to years of mind fk and putting them in reality shows for their own amusement. 

@Cricketics the above from @maniac Is what I was inferring to, they are all nice guys but inside ALL of them there is inbred hatred for India driven by being taught India represents a Hindu ideology that is fundamentally everything against their Islamic upbringing and Pakistan's existence was to escape this Hindu rule. Even in the US (in my short stints) experience same with the Pak co-workers, ALL would never touch any cakes I or any Indian would bring in for birthdays! But happily chit-chat 

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1 hour ago, chewy said:

^^^ though I must caveat, my personal experience with Pak Shia Muslims is different and that sense of inbuilt hatred of India and Hindusim doesn't exist

I am afraid that PURE SHIA Islam teachings are not different than Sunni Islam. It is only this that perhaps normal Shia Muslims don't know the actual Sharaia Rulings (according to their own Imams), or they are also like SUFIS who follow less of Sharia and more of their won PEERS. 

 

For example, Shia Imams explicitly forbid their followers to eat anything which has been brought by Non Muslims if there is a doubt that they touched that in liquid form. For example, if a Hindu made a cake, then surely he came to touch it in liquid form during the preparation. But if a Hindu bought a cake from any Muslim in Solid form, then they may eat it. 

 

This ruling came from the Quranic Verse that every Mushrik (Kafir) is IMPURE. 

 

During university time, one of my Shia friend was not eating what my Hindu friends cooked, although Sunni friends had no problem. in eating it. While  Taiwari Ji (one of my Hindu student) was not eating what Dalit Students cooked. 

 

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5 hours ago, chewy said:

@Cricketics the above from @maniac Is what I was inferring to, they are all nice guys but inside ALL of them there is inbred hatred for India driven by being taught India represents a Hindu ideology that is fundamentally everything against their Islamic upbringing and Pakistan's existence was to escape this Hindu rule. Even in the US (in my short stints) experience same with the Pak co-workers, ALL would never touch any cakes I or any Indian would bring in for birthdays! But happily chit-chat 

I have found Pakistani team mates a bit different here at work and who play cricket here. They have often participated and wished regularly Happy Diwali to me and other Indians.

 

I think it depends really. There are some good ones or not so brainwashed one I say and then there are some ignorant ones who lile you mentioned.

 

But yes, most of them overseas are also brainwashed. I think USA still has way better Pak populatiom, whicch is not as brainwashed as the one down in UK or Europe.

 

At the end of the day, it is their culture. We might look similar and talk sikilar but we are different. We can not lut religion above country, well they can.

 

This is where I believe you won’t get any better peoole in the world than India, the most tolerant nation of all. Beintolerant has cost us at times, but we indeed are the most tolerant nation. May be its time to be more hard. 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/15/2019 at 11:37 PM, MechEng said:

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Look pencil neck and titty boy trying to be tough :hysterical:. What no vagine hence resorting to abducting women and underage girls. I cant imagine them going against a white guy or a sikh. They will be in the hospital in no time. this is why they end up in gangs. They cant fight alone.

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Just now, Real McCoy said:

Obviously not educated and indoctrinated in their ideology

True that. Their ideology is  there is an incentive to die.

 

Lack of education.

 

Easily accessible terror camps.

 

Financially messed up nation.

 

History of rape of female doctor and nurse of same religion in Balochistan.

 

Too many wrong developments have severely become core parts of their country.

 

I for one believe that all kids and youth should not be made to use bulbs, tube lights, rods etc when clashes erupt. 

 

There  these  10 year kids are sent to terror camps and handed guns rather than sending them in proper schools by own parents.

 

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I was a member there a few years ago. Didnt do a lot of posting there. But I can attest the number of Anti-Indian threads in the chitchat was considerable. Lots of Brit Paks there and most of the admins are from that group. There were quite a few posters who used to call Sehwag Sewage. I recall calling Jamshed as Fatshed and my post was immediately deleted. When I asked how my post was deleted, I was told that its a Pakistan forum and there will be certain bias in favor of them. They also removed the Sewage comment but Indians have to report it.

There was this other incidence when some Indian poster was getting riled up by a troll and posting messages. I told him the pak dude was trying to get the mickey out of him and you are commenting against a brick wall. My post was removed without explanation. This clearly suggested they were banking on Indian posters to keep posting there to maximize profit. Also their behavior during the CT final was atrocious. I was just lurking there to see whats happening. All the pent up vileness came out of them in an avalanche. Thats when I made a mental note to myself to not even go there anymore.

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3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

I was a member there a few years ago. Didnt do a lot of posting there. But I can attest the number of Anti-Indian threads in the chitchat was considerable. Lots of Brit Paks there and most of the admins are from that group. There were quite a few posters who used to call Sehwag Sewage. I recall calling Jamshed as Fatshed and my post was immediately deleted. When I asked how my post was deleted, I was told that its a Pakistan forum and there will be certain bias in favor of them. They also removed the Sewage comment but Indians have to report it.

There was this other incidence when some Indian poster was getting riled up by a troll and posting messages. I told him the pak dude was trying to get the mickey out of him and you are commenting against a brick wall. My post was removed without explanation. This clearly suggested they were banking on Indian posters to keep posting there to maximize profit. Also their behavior during the CT final was atrocious. I was just lurking there to see whats happening. All the pent up vileness came out of them in an avalanche. Thats when I made a mental note to myself to not even go there anymore.

The only time I posted in PeePee was that there was an attack on SL players during their tour to Pakistan so Pakistan is not safe for international cricket. Got banned immediately :hysterical:

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4 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said:

The only time I posted in PeePee was that there was an attack on SL players during their tour to Pakistan so Pakistan is not safe for international cricket. Got banned immediately :hysterical:

Pakistan will not get home games in few more years. They  did not even play the PSL at home apart from finals last year. Australia has said no, England players declined to participate in PSL finals. India, also part of "Big Three" is not even playing Pakistan in away places. Big Three have choked them for almost a decade now.

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26 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

True that. Their ideology is  there is an incentive to die.

 

Lack of education.

 

Easily accessible terror camps.

 

Financially messed up nation.

 

History of rape of female doctor and nurse of same religion in Balochistan.

 

Too many wrong developments have severely become core parts of their country.

 

I for one believe that all kids and youth should not be made to use bulbs, tube lights, rods etc when clashes erupt. 

 

There  these  10 year kids are sent to terror camps and handed guns rather than sending them in proper schools by own parents.

 

Too add to that, I had a workmate in US who was a Pak Pashtun. He said there was a Pashtun man who tried to kidnap him when he was a boy and somehow he raised enough ruckus for the man to throw him off his van to save his ass (I mean in the LITERAL sense). You can google Bachebazi if you are not aware of it. This is a tradition that has ancient roots like from Greek times. And what were the greeks most popular for. Their love of warfare and men and boys.

 

I had another muslim workmate from Bangalore who was commenting on sexual predation of women in some hindu spiritual teachers. I think he was referring to the Osho and Nithyananda types. I came back with the muslims do it too. He said in muslims its far worse. He said they do it with boys when they are young in madrasas. I cant imagine a boy undergoing such trauma who can lose his mind over some religious BS indoctrinated towards him. He could be making up his own stories but that Pashtun guy said it like he meant it.

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15 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Too add to that, I had a workmate in US who was a Pak Pashtun. He said there was a Pashtun man who tried to kidnap him when he was a boy and somehow he raised enough ruckus for the man to throw him off his van to save his ass (I mean in the LITERAL sense). You can google Bachebazi if you are not aware of it. This is a tradition that has ancient roots like from Greek times. And what were the greeks most popular for. Their love of warfare and men and boys.

 

I had another muslim workmate from Bangalore who was commenting on sexual predation of women in some hindu spiritual teachers. I think he was referring to the Osho and Nithyananda types. I came back with the muslims do it too. He said in muslims its far worse. He said they do it with boys when they are young in madrasas. I cant imagine a boy undergoing such trauma who can lose his mind over some religious BS indoctrinated towards him. He could be making up his own stories but that Pashtun guy said it like he meant it.

Bachhabazi is well known as it is well documented on internet pages, they also have been shown in some  documentary movies on terrorism, they dance for adults as well by wearing ladies clothes and having girlish appearrance. US troops too have mentioned that practice exists in some nations. 

 

The troops said that even they could not object to bachhabaazi though they found it horrible as they had support from top officials who themselves were into all these. 

 

 

Life is horrible in some nations. Not even cricketers want to go to Pakistan. The nation is already on financial terrorism watchlist at initial level. There are people saying due to clashes between their own communities and bomb blasts. Nobody wants to go there on vacations for obvious reasons. It is on avoid list of many European nations. Their prime minister is just a pupett. Probably they hold the elections only to show they are democratic nation but the military takes all the calls. They have so called heroes like Osama and Dar.

 

 

 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Too add to that, I had a workmate in US who was a Pak Pashtun. He said there was a Pashtun man who tried to kidnap him when he was a boy and somehow he raised enough ruckus for the man to throw him off his van to save his ass (I mean in the LITERAL sense). You can google Bachebazi if you are not aware of it. This is a tradition that has ancient roots like from Greek times. And what were the greeks most popular for. Their love of warfare and men and boys.

 

I had another muslim workmate from Bangalore who was commenting on sexual predation of women in some hindu spiritual teachers. I think he was referring to the Osho and Nithyananda types. I came back with the muslims do it too. He said in muslims its far worse. He said they do it with boys when they are young in madrasas. I cant imagine a boy undergoing such trauma who can lose his mind over some religious BS indoctrinated towards him. He could be making up his own stories but that Pashtun guy said it like he meant it.

Saw a documentary on Netflix about it. It was in the early days of Netflix when we were not exposed to such hard hitting documentaries on a regular basis.

 

It was so Depressing and disgusting. I Just couldn’t stomach it. Kept getting nightmares for 2 days.

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Life is such a wonderful thing but these guys have handed over their small thinking box in control of the wrong people, rather than they thinking for themselves as to what should be the guiding principles of the life. I can understand a kid or a youth being misguided , but even their adults seem to have handed over their brains to separatists and militants. It's shocking to say the least.

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