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Jadeja/Ashwin In ODI after World Cup 2015 - Poor


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5 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

Last 2 years in IPL, he has played 25 matches, scored at average of 37 and SR of 158. He is not the world beater, but he is better than Rahane,Yuvi on current form, and Biryani type who played for India recently. He is kind of batsman who take responsibility just as shown in IPL final. 

Still has to do lot more in List A and Ranji. We're not talking about T20.

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IF india needs to win overseas we need a wkt taking spinner

Kuldeep has to be played

Jadeja contains well but doesnt pick wkts and ashwin hasnt done well overseas 

Yuzi has to work on his game in ODI as its diff from t20

M ashwin n Rahul chaher has to be groomed 

4 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

Again, when i mention Krunal, he will play as a batsman not as 5th bowler. Meaning you can select someone like Shami who is warming bench right now. Spinner job is now to take wickets which Jadeja can't pick in middle over given his average is closing to 60. 

Yes he can play at 6 and give u the luxury of playing diff combinations.......his overs can decrease the pressure on hardik as well and both will add firepower 

 

5 hours ago, sandeep said:

Man you want to see Jadeja benched............. for Krunal?   I can see the argument for Chahal or Kuldeep.  Not for Krunal/Axar.  They are both Jadeja clones.  Restricting spinners who can bat a bit.

Krunal can play as 6th bolwer not main , his batting looks good enough to get him a spot at 6 or 7 which is not the case with axar . Playing krunal can actually make u try diff combination like playing kuldeep and yuzi , kuldeep and ashwin, Kuldeep and jadeja or even kuldeep alone........so yes selecting him as all rounder can give u an option of having variety and that can lead to dropping jaddu

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Kohli want certain players in the team irrespective of performance, conditions etc , unluckily Jadeja & Ashwin are the players in that list.

 

If reports are to be believed, the selection of Kuldeep was the main reason for the spat between Kumble & Kohli.

If the same reports are to be believed Kumble also leaked the private player chats to media journos

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15 hours ago, sandeep said:

Man you want to see Jadeja benched............. for Krunal?   I can see the argument for Chahal or Kuldeep.  Not for Krunal/Axar.  They are both Jadeja clones.  Restricting spinners who can bat a bit.

Krunal is a Batsman who can bowl. Jaddu and axar are bowlers who can bat.

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this shows why tests and odis are so different - kuldeep, chahal and mishra are better bowlers in the shorter formats. If they need a batting allrounder, Krunal Pandya would be suitable. Hooda (in current season) and Aparajith are more of batsmen who bowl a bit

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On 6/10/2017 at 9:06 PM, sandeep said:

Man you want to see Jadeja benched............. for Krunal?   I can see the argument for Chahal or Kuldeep.  Not for Krunal/Axar.  They are both Jadeja clones.  Restricting spinners who can bat a bit.

    But did Jaddu restrict anything ? 

   Players  go through highs & lows in form . 

   Play the one who is in better form . There is nothing like permanent seat like in UN and that applies every one including VK 

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On 10/06/2017 at 9:06 PM, sandeep said:

Man you want to see Jadeja benched............. for Krunal?   I can see the argument for Chahal or Kuldeep.  Not for Krunal/Axar.  They are both Jadeja clones.  Restricting spinners who can bat a bit.

Has Jadeja ever done anything with bat. Most fake allrounder India has played. Not even Bunny comes close to him. 

 

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On 6/25/2017 at 5:32 AM, Kerberos said:

Has Jadeja ever done anything with bat. Most fake allrounder India has played. Not even Bunny comes close to him. 

 

Let's not compare Bunny and Jaddu - Sir is much, much better in Tests (and somewhat better in ODIs too). Having said that, Sir is a pretty useless batsman - should play at 8/9 in Tests and at 10 in ODIs (since he can't score quick enough in the latter).

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I can use Jadeja in 2020s still but not 50 overs. 50 overs is a too long a format and his bowling fets found out. 

 

The longer he bowls, his line gets predictable.

 

Dart throwing can work in T20s in short spells

 

So only kind of linited over cricket Jadeja should be playing is probabaly t20s and that too as 2nd vhouce spinner, where he only has to bowl 4 overs and his accurate line will be helfpul there but in 50 overs, his 60 deliveries in 10 overs will keep going for runs every few overs.

 

 

Meanwhile Ashwin shouldn't be used in any kind of LOI, but only for tests.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

I can use Jadeja in 2020s still but not 50 overs. 50 overs is a too long a format and his bowling fets found out. 

 

The longer he bowls, his line gets predictable.

 

Dart throwing can work in T20s in short spells

 

So only kind of linited over cricket Jadeja should be playing is probabaly t20s and that too as 2nd vhouce spinner, where he only has to bowl 4 overs and his accurate line will be helfpul there but in 50 overs, his 60 deliveries in 10 overs will keep going for runs every few overs.

 

 

Meanwhile Ashwin shouldn't be used in any kind of LOI, but only for tests.

 

 

 

 

Jaddu is even more useless in T20s since he can't slog (at all) and his containment is average and wkt taking is almost nil. Hence, in T20s he becomes almost exclusively a specialist fielder who bowls 3 tight-ish overs. Would prefer to see Chahal, Kuldeep ahead of him.

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