What is your ideal ODI line up?

[putrevus]

16 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

3 games are not enough to judge anyone that too when batting order kept shuffling every game.  If three games were enough, Kohli would have been no where near Indian test team at this point or even ODIs once he was dropped from the team after 15 or so ODIs.

 

Also, no one is saying he has become a great ODI player. Neither are Dinesh Karthik and Pandey, but he visibly has the mot potential and we still have 2 years for next WC. So better to groom him than a TTF In Karthik. 

Guys like karthik even though are stopgap need to be given chances otherwise point of playing domestic cricket is useless.You have to reward players for outstanding domestic cricket performances even if they are TTF players.

 

Selectors want him to an opener so they want him there nothing wrong in it.Pandey will ask what wrong I have done to be dropped.

 

 

[King Tendulkar]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Why is KL Rahul in most of the squads, he has done nothing to prove that he is good odi player. His list A SR is in 70s. He needs to be back up opener.

 

If Axar is playing in the team, I would rather have jadeja at least he will be electric on the field.

I like the guy . But include if want . But to bat him 3 like most want looool

 

i repeat to not bat kohli 3 is insane . Greatest number 3 in odi cricket ever . Reminds me of guru Greg moving greatest opening batsman ever in to middle order . Come on guys be serious this is not fantasy cricket 

Edited October 30, 2017 by King Tendulkar

[putrevus]

6 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

I like the guy . But include if want . But to bat him 3 like most want looool

 

i repeat to not bat kohli 3 is insane . Greatest number 3 in odi cricket ever . Reminds me of guru Greg moving greatest opening batsman ever in to middle order . Come on guys be serious this is not fantasy cricket 

Anybody who moves Kohli from No3 need to be banned from coaching Indian team again.I said even in 2014 when they moved Kohli to no 4 .

 

Rahul may or may not be no 4 but Kohli is no 3 for next two world cups at least.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Why is KL Rahul in most of the squads, he has done nothing to prove that he is good odi player. His list A SR is in 70s. He needs to be back up opener.

 

If Axar is playing in the team, I would rather have jadeja at least he will be electric on the field.

Because he hit a century against Zim in ODis, and hit some shots in a throw-away T20 in a small ground in Florida.   

 

People forget that Dinesh *ing Mongia made it to the Indian WC squad on the back of a big hitting century against Zimbabwe.   One century and somehow KLR is a can't miss prospect for ODIs.   I would pick Shreyas Iyer at #3 or 4 for the Indian team ahead of him at this point.  Especially given the fact that "KLR" only needs to sneeze to pick up another injury.

[jusarrived]

Just now, rkt.india said:

3 games are not enough to judge anyone that too when batting order kept shuffling every game.  If three games were enough, Kohli would have been no where near Indian test team at this point or even ODIs once he was dropped from the team after 15 or so ODIs.

I agree 3 games are not enough , but there are very few cases of specialist openers droping down the order and being successful . The reverse is much easier . 

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Because he hit a century against Zim in ODis, and hit some shots in a throw-away T20 in a small ground in Florida.   

 

People forget that Dinesh *ing Mongia made it to the Indian WC squad on the back of a big hitting century against Zimbabwe.   One century and somehow KLR is a can't miss prospect for ODIs.   I would pick Shreyas Iyer at #3 or 4 for the Indian team ahead of him at this point.  Especially given the fact that "KLR" only needs to sneeze to pick up another injury.

I don't see him belting fast bowlers ala Yuvi or tonking them over boundaries like Dhoni in younger days.

Edited October 30, 2017 by putrevus

[speedheat]

14 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Because he hit a century against Zim in ODis, and hit some shots in a throw-away T20 in a small ground in Florida.   

 

People forget that Dinesh *ing Mongia made it to the Indian WC squad on the back of a big hitting century against Zimbabwe.   One century and somehow KLR is a can't miss prospect for ODIs.   I would pick Shreyas Iyer at #3 or 4 for the Indian team ahead of him at this point.  Especially given the fact that "KLR" only needs to sneeze to pick up another injury.

Exactly he is just too overrated here on icf, brittle both in fitness and ability's, takes  lot of time to settle in, got out to some Pie chuckers in SL I don't find him as long term solution.

[sandeep]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't see him belting fast bowlers ala Yuvi or tonking them over boundaries like Dhoni in younger days.

Frankly, I do have optimistic hopes on Rahul.   But I feel the same way about Iyer.  

[jusarrived]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Because he hit a century against Zim in ODis, and hit some shots in a throw-away T20 in a small ground in Florida.   

 

People forget that Dinesh *ing Mongia made it to the Indian WC squad on the back of a big hitting century against Zimbabwe.   One century and somehow KLR is a can't miss prospect for ODIs.   I would pick Shreyas Iyer at #3 or 4 for the Indian team ahead of him at this point.  Especially given the fact that "KLR" only needs to sneeze to pick up another injury.

KL needs to be given a proper chance , cos its important for us to have a couple of players who can play in all three formats . At the moment we have only Virat in the batting linup . Also hes closest to the complete batsmen we have , there is no reason he cannot do well in ODIs has all the shots and good technique  . Iyer deserves a shot too , but at this point its easier to bet on KL than Iyer cos hes proven himself in different conditions against good teams even though in different formats . Iyer could just be a domestic bully ( personally not a big fan cos I think he plays cross batted ) .

[maniac]

Still have hopes for Rahul....If Dinesh Karthik and Raina can be given long ropes and Yuvraj gets a chance a redemption don’t see why Rahul one of the hottest young prospects we have had since Kohli can’t .

 

Also Rahul needs to adapt and make a name in whatever position he gets his shot in...in the modern day,you cannot pick and chose slots.

[jusarrived]

41 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

I like the guy . But include if want . But to bat him 3 like most want looool

 

i repeat to not bat kohli 3 is insane . Greatest number 3 in odi cricket ever . Reminds me of guru Greg moving greatest opening batsman ever in to middle order . Come on guys be serious this is not fantasy cricket 

if you put all your experienced/best bats in the top order , you will never win a tournament . You will choke in KO's , like we did in recent CT and like we did for a decade or more with the greatest opening batsmen in the team .

 

I want Virat to end his career as a Greatest ODI player , not just no3 and I believe if there is one player in the world who can play in any position and do well , thats him . 

[jusarrived]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

Ok...looks like you are catching up on all the cricket you missed...we will discuss when you get up to date

I will admit , hes done well lately so if he continues like this its a toss up between him and Dhawan .  The priority though is having an opening combination which can give is quick starts , dosent matter who does it . 

[swastikpanda2]

I think Rahul  is comparatively weak against spin compared to pace and maybe thats why he might be finding its tough while playing spinners initially. So he prefers to open. If he is keen on grabbing that No.4 spot, he would not have batted at opening position in that BP 11 match.

[Lannister]

Select this team and sit back and watch how they destroy others.

 

Rohit

Iyer

Kohli (c)

Rahul (WK)

Manish Pandey

Hardik

Krunal

Kuldeep

Siraj

Thampi

Bumrah

[sandeep]

36 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

KL needs to be given a proper chance , cos its important for us to have a couple of players who can play in all three formats . At the moment we have only Virat in the batting linup . Also hes closest to the complete batsmen we have , there is no reason he cannot do well in ODIs has all the shots and good technique  . Iyer deserves a shot too , but at this point its easier to bet on KL than Iyer cos hes proven himself in different conditions against good teams even though in different formats . Iyer could just be a domestic bully ( personally not a big fan cos I think he plays cross batted ) .

Lets agree to disagree.  KL has shown chinks against spin in the few opportunities he had in the middle order, and is on record as preferring to open the batting in ODIs.  That means he's in the queue behind the incumbents Rohit and Shikhar, and unfortunately Jinxy as well.   

 

Iyer is a guy who has been batting at #3 for quite a while, and to me, its a good bet that he may find it easier to play in the middle order for India than Rahul did.   

 

That's not to say that I think he's better than Rahul - Shreyas has his own set of question marks - a slightly looser technique, a willingness and almost a 'need' to take risks in going after the bowling every time, all the time.   But lets see.  

[rkt.india]

29 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

I think Rahul  is comparatively weak against spin compared to pace and maybe thats why he might be finding its tough while playing spinners initially. So he prefers to open. If he is keen on grabbing that No.4 spot, he would not have batted at opening position in that BP 11 match.

Rahul has done very well in tests against spin. Was easily our best player on those turners against Lyon and O'keefe. Middle order need a bit of adjustment and you need to give him some games to do that. he was successful in T20s in middle order, so, i am sure if he is given more chances, he will adjust him game in ODIs too. 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Because he hit a century against Zim in ODis, and hit some shots in a throw-away T20 in a small ground in Florida.   

 

People forget that Dinesh *ing Mongia made it to the Indian WC squad on the back of a big hitting century against Zimbabwe.   One century and somehow KLR is a can't miss prospect for ODIs.   I would pick Shreyas Iyer at #3 or 4 for the Indian team ahead of him at this point.  Especially given the fact that "KLR" only needs to sneeze to pick up another injury.

Why you bringing Dinesh Mongia here? There is  no comparison between the two.

[swastikpanda2]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Rahul has done very well in tests against spin. Was easily our best player on those turners against Lyon and O'keefe. Middle order need a bit of adjustment and you need to give him some games to do that. he was successful in T20s in middle order, so, i am sure if he is given more chances, he will adjust him game in ODIs too. 

If he can adjust then it's very good. Who would want to miss a quality player like Rahul. Maybe the team management (Shastri) feels something else. First backed Manish Pandey over Rahul. Then DK over Pandey. And then hopefully it will be Iyer (Mumbai) over DK. I sense a pattern.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

I don't see him belting fast bowlers ala Yuvi or tonking them over boundaries like Dhoni in younger days.

You are over rating Yuvraj of his younger days who was pretty average till 2005, first 5 years of his career.  He was no better than Rohit Sharma of first 5 years of his career and even YUvraj was not great against genuine pace, could hit medium pacers all day. Anyway Rahul has already done that in T20 cricket. So, no reason he cannot do that in ODIs. 

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

You are over rating Yuvraj of his younger days who was pretty average till 2005, first 5 years of his career.  He was no better than Rohit Sharma of first 5 years of his career and even YUvraj was not great against genuine pace, could hit medium pacers all day. Anyway Rahul has already done that in T20 cricket. So, no reason he cannot do that in ODIs. 

I don't think Yuvi was average in his younger days, he was inconsistent, there is a difference, look at his hundred in 2003 against Australia in Australia.Yuvi did well in 2003 world cup also, doing well against medium pace is fine.Rahul has done what in t20 other than a hundred against weak WI attack on a ball park where 230 was average score.

 

As a youngster you need a signature innings very early in your career to overcome your inconsistency.Rahul scored most of his runs in T20 as an opener but you want him in middle order.Rahul got that signature inning in tests early in his career therefore he was got his chances even though he was scoring ducks.