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Was Alastair Cook's 2010 Ashes performance just an aberration?

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36 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

7. Same as Dravid.

Sehwag - 4

VVS - 3

Ganguly - 1

Gavaskar - 10 :adore:(6 back to back 400+ series between 77/78 and 79/80.

 

 

There are many West Indian umpires in USA who umpire in the leagues here and almost all of them have the most respect for two guys - Richard Hadlee and Sunil Gavaskar. These guys have watched their Caribbean heros play live in 70s-80s and always have no shame in accepting that it was hard to to see their bowlers get Gavaskar out.

 

Must have been one classy batsman. 

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2 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

There are many West Indian umpires in USA who umpire in the leagues here and almost all of them have the most respect for two guys - Richard Hadlee and Sunil Gavaskar. These guys have watched their Caribbean heros play live in 70s-80s and always have no shame in accepting that it was hard to to see their bowlers get Gavaskar out.

 

Must have been one classy batsman. 

He was a legend alright. Best Test opener in the last 50 years AFAIC.

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1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

There are many West Indian umpires in USA who umpire in the leagues here and almost all of them have the most respect for two guys - Richard Hadlee and Sunil Gavaskar. These guys have watched their Caribbean heros play live in 70s-80s and always have no shame in accepting that it was hard to to see their bowlers get Gavaskar out.

 

Must have been one classy batsman. 

Gavaskar is the classic case of misleading stats against WI. 

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Gavaskar is the classic case of misleading stats against WI. 

This has nothing to do with stats. This is just about how Gavaskar built his reputation by being a tough cricketer.

 

Gavaskar was a tough competitor, who was well respected for his game among the Caribbean players and spectators just because he used to not give away his wicket easily compared to other great players who weren’t as prepared to tackle Windies bowlers of that era.

 

 

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On 11/24/2017 at 3:41 AM, Gollum said:

An opener who has scored 10k runs with more than half of them coming in England and Wales (toughest place for openers) is over rated. Yeah sure. 

 

Give me a Cook any day over the likes of Warner, Sehwag and Haydos. 

 

 

cook has done badly away in general - avg of 46 in Oz because of one daddy series, 34 in NZ, 31 in SA (quite bad). Eng may be hard for openers but at least he is used to it. the point I'm trying to make is that ATG openers are much rarer than ATG middle order bats. After Hutton, I don't know if anyone true ATG opener exists, except Sunny G I guess.

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On 11/26/2017 at 9:10 AM, Cricketics said:

This has nothing to do with stats. This is just about how Gavaskar built his reputation by being a tough cricketer.

 

Gavaskar was a tough competitor, who was well respected for his game among the Caribbean players and spectators just because he used to not give away his wicket easily compared to other great players who weren’t as prepared to tackle Windies bowlers of that era.

 

 

most times, Gavaskar did not even play against the best WI fast bowlers. The series he played, he failed.

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9 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Which ones did he miss?

 

Are you falling to that idea being spread on internet that Gavaskar had to face those 4 pacers once and he couldn't do much?

he did not miss but he did not bat against best WI pacers much. How it is falling? It is the fact. and it was not on internet. It was posted here on ICF by some poster.

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12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

he did not miss but he did not bat against best WI pacers much. How it is falling? It is the fact. and it was not on internet. It was posted here on ICF by some poster.

In 1983, in Gavaskar’s last series, he managed to hit 230 odd against them with Marshall and Holding in there. Earlier he failed a few times against them while managed to score like crazy when they were not there in the 1970 series. It wasn’t Gavaskar’s fault that Holding and co were not available since they were busy making money in Kerry Packer’s tournament in Australia. 

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2 hours ago, Cricketics said:

In 1983, in Gavaskar’s last series, he managed to hit 230 odd against them with Marshall and Holding in there. Earlier he failed a few times against them while managed to score like crazy when they were not there in the 1970 series. It wasn’t Gavaskar’s fault that Holding and co were not available since they were busy making money in Kerry Packer’s tournament in Australia. 

I am not saying it is his mistake or he is not a great. Any opener averaging 50 is a great. My objection is people claiming how gavaskar scored lot of runs against great WI fast bowlers.

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On 12/5/2017 at 3:04 AM, Gollum said:

Wait till we tour there next year and drop him 12 times helping him to a 600+ runs series. Cook owes a lot to us guys, 6 100s in India plus Jadeja gave him a second life in 2014 amidst a particularly deep trough of form.

he is not the same as he was in 2014 though.

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