putrevus Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I guess we have a difference on opinion regarding Kohli on this. But I do agree with you on BCCI’s culpability on this. Bunch of morons scheduling games caring only about profits and not the well being of the team!Guys like Sachin, Sourav should be making these statements about lack of matches before SL series too.They are as culpable as BCCI after all they are on some committee which advises BCCI.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Deleted_User_1 1 Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, putrevus said: Guys like Sachin, Sourav should be making these statements about lack of matches before SL series too.They are as culpable as BCCI after all they are on some committee which advises BCCI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Also former players like Sehwag criticizing is a bit rich, especially he was total failure overseas and besides his batting, he was very lackadaisical about preparation, fitness, etc Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, dandaroy said: Also former players like Sehwag criticizing is a bit rich, especially he was total failure overseas and besides his batting, he was very lackadaisical about preparation, fitness, etc Sehwag now is a clown to me, he has not shown any skill as an expert pundit either in creating a solution for Indian team's overseas woes but is just jumping on media bandwagon finding faults in Kohli . Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 26/01/2018 at 12:55 PM, Rasgulla said: Today he totally has Top scorer of the series.. Sachin never did that despite playing that many years.. Virat rocks.. Sachin chamchas shocks still stands high.. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Owned Anderson today while sachin was always his bunny. King kohli > selfish tendulkar velu 1 Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 By the time he hangs up, he will. He is already proven himself to be a more valuable player to the team. Rasgulla and velu 2 Link to comment
cric_fan Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Kohli>>>>> Sachin velu and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Not yet.... But this was an amazing knock from Kohli. The art of batting with tail enders at its very best was clearly evident. He scored the major bulk the 92 runs he put along with last 2 batsmen. velu 1 Link to comment
velu Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 oh yeah .. this is my thread Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 7:54 PM, velu said: oh yeah .. this is my thread Virat owns sachin again in 2nd innings velu 1 Link to comment
velu Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 IMHO kohli overtook sachin long back .. but for doubters he ovetook him just in the previous test .. kohli will score more than 50 centuries in tests alone if he maintain this form for another 3/4 years Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) In terms of batting ability Kohli hasn't reached there yet. Sachin could shut down entire off side and make 241 runs only on the on side. He had more shots for each ball. In terms of mental strength i would give an edge to Kohli who doesn't get flustered under pressure. He just needs to be in rythm. Sachin would often retreat himself into a shell when there is a huge expectation to pull off something. Zimbabwe test, 1997 barbados collapse, uber defensive against Pakistan at Bangalore (19 of 95 balls with a life), uber defensive against Paul harris the debutant as match that would have helped India win their first test series in SA. Having said that there are different phases in sachin's career. When he was young he was a different guy. As a 17 year old saved the test match at old trafford, scored 114 on a lively Perth pitch. As i said Tendulkar has the technique to cope wide range of conditions. Just that there were times he allowed the pressure to weigh him down regardless of the conditions. Edited August 5, 2018 by vvvslaxman sensible-indian 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, velu said: IMHO kohli overtook sachin long back .. but for doubters he ovetook him just in the previous test .. kohli will score more than 50 centuries in tests alone if he maintain this form for another 3/4 years Yeah like 5 years back? Virat can retire now and won't be considered ATG in tests. SRT was already ATG by age of 30. He is yet to overtake even SRT upto 2003. Link to comment
velu Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Virat can retire now and won't be considered ATG in tests. SRT was already ATG by age of 30. He is yet to overtake even SRT upto 2003. one of the greats and not ATG .. when he was 30 , lara > sachin and not bothered to consider other batsmen Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, velu said: one of the greats and not ATG .. when he was 30 , lara > sachin and not bothered to consider other batsmen Naah, he was already regarded as ATG at 30. 6th highest run getter by that age. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 GA Gooch (ENG) 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13 Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 124 189 21 8832 280* 52.57 23 43 6 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 IVA Richards (WI) 1974-1991 121 182 12 8540 291 50.23 24 45 10 Highest avg among those batsmen by some big margin Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 124 189 21 8832 280* 52.57 23 43 6 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 IVA Richards (WI) 1974-1991 121 182 12 8540 291 50.23 24 45 10 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 GA Gooch (ENG) 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13 And 2nd most 100s Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 DG Bradman (AUS) 1928-1948 52 80 10 6996 334 99.94 29 13 7 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 GS Sobers (WI) 1954-1974 93 160 21 8032 365* 57.78 26 30 12 That was enough to be regarded as ATG back then only. Link to comment
velu Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Naah, he was already regarded as ATG at 30. 6th highest run getter by that age. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 GA Gooch (ENG) 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13 Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 124 189 21 8832 280* 52.57 23 43 6 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 IVA Richards (WI) 1974-1991 121 182 12 8540 291 50.23 24 45 10 Highest avg among those batsmen by some big margin Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 124 189 21 8832 280* 52.57 23 43 6 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 IVA Richards (WI) 1974-1991 121 182 12 8540 291 50.23 24 45 10 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 GA Gooch (ENG) 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13 And 2nd most 100s Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1987 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 12 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2002 105 169 16 8811 217 57.58 31 35 10 DG Bradman (AUS) 1928-1948 52 80 10 6996 334 99.94 29 13 7 SR Waugh (AUS) 1985-2003 158 246 42 10064 200 49.33 29 46 21 AR Border (AUS) 1978-1994 156 265 44 11174 205 50.56 27 63 11 GS Sobers (WI) 1954-1974 93 160 21 8032 365* 57.78 26 30 12 That was enough to be regarded as ATG back then only. he is an ATG when comes to consistency .. but what about ranking points , number of wisden 100 innings ? Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, velu said: he is an ATG when comes to consistency .. but what about ranking points , number of wisden 100 innings ? There is no category of ATG batsman. It's not IIFA awards with 1000s of categories. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Kohli has started averaging 50 for 7 tests (Since Nov 2017). He reached avg of 50 in Dec 2016. Right now he is behind SRT, Gavaskar and Dravid. He has surpassed Sehwag and Laxman imo. Link to comment
velu Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli has started averaging 50 for 7 tests (Since Nov 2017). He reached avg of 50 in Dec 2016. Right now he is behind SRT, Gavaskar and Dravid. He has surpassed Sehwag and Laxman imo. if average is everything ..... Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, velu said: if average is everything ..... Avg, runs and centuries are lot of things. Any batsman with 2nd most 100s and 55+ avg will be ATG at that point irrespective of everything else. Btw, ranking and wisden - SRT was no 1 ranked batsman during 7 calendar years, from 1994-2002. 7 out of 9 years. Wisden rated him 2nd best test batsman of all time and 2nd best ODI batsman of all time in 2002. He was well settled as ATG. Kohli can retire next year and won't end up as ATG. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
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