Kathua rape-murder: Lawyers stop police from filing chargesheet

[coffee_rules]

^ stopped reading after "India occupied Kashmir". rag article.

[DHONI_FANN]

https://barandbench.com/kathua-controversy-bci-clean-chit-jammu-lawyers/

 

[Moochad]

 

[diga]

For seculars, 8 year old Asifa is a beti and the 10 year old Geeta becomes a bhabhi... cringeworthy thing  that they want Geeta to be married off to her rapist 

[coffee_rules]

 

For seculars, 8 year old Asifa is a beti and the 10 year old Geeta becomes a bhabhi... cringeworthy thing  that they want Geeta to be married off to her rapist 

Congress youth leader campaigning for marriagw, they are claiming it as a "pyar ka mamla". Shameful that no placard artist calling it shameful. 

[FischerTal]

shocking if true

 

 

[FischerTal]

brilliant investigation by sudhir chaudhary and zee news. Shame on BJP...... they sacked their own ministers who were asking for CBI probe... 

 

all those crime branch officers need to be arrested.. ruining a young man's life by faking chargesheet

[diga]

 

brilliant investigation by sudhir chaudhary and zee news. Shame on BJP...... they sacked their own ministers who were asking for CBI probe... 

all those crime branch officers need to be arrested.. ruining a young man's life by faking chargesheet

Unfortunately none of the "secular" journos do a follow up .. Looks like all along the mission was to grab Jammu too

[Singh bling]

 

brilliant investigation by sudhir chaudhary and zee news. Shame on BJP...... they sacked their own ministers who were asking for CBI probe... 

 

all those crime branch officers need to be arrested.. ruining a young man's life by faking chargesheet

If the accused in Kathua are innocent and police has wrongly chargesheeted them then what's surprising in this ?? The way Indians behaved during Nirbhaya protests

after that these things will have to happen.Has anybody ever thought that may be one or more accused in Nirbhaya case could be innocent.All indians were like jala do castrate them kill them.

 

Now may be some pro Pak Kashmiri policeman had thought to accuse some Hindu men so that tension Kashmir escalate.These men may be later freed by court but then again they will blame Hindu Govt for that.

[coffee_rules]

Placards for Asifa, but none for Geetha. Hypocrisy exposed. I think, the case should be fought hard in court, rather than in MSM and in SM.

[Alam_dar]

 

shocking if true

 

 

It is a "secondary" issue and not the primary one. Crime Branch has not definitely given the date about it (as it is clear in this video itself). Or even we could assume the Crime Branch made a mistake in writing of the events. 

 

The "primary" proofs are the forensic proofs from the Delhi High Technology Lab. 

 

Request to Hindu Ekta Manjh supporters: Please use your Rationale

 

Do you really believe the first Police report by the police officer (who was later accused of corruption by the Crime Branch)? 

 

This report claimed that the little girl was not rapped in all these days. 

But this same report claims that the "Motive" of abduction of little girl was to "rape" her. 

 

Once again, do you really believe that the abductors became angels during all these days and they didn't rape her? I wonder if you are naive, or are you biased? 

 

Your rationale will guide you without any doubt in this case, if you really have humanity in you. 

 

 

Delhi Lab:

 

You blamed Mufti government for being communal. But what would you do when it is Delhi Lab which is telling:

 

* She was drugged.

Stomach samples were taken and drugs are found. 

While the first police report claims "No Drugs", as the young non adult boy was unable to get his hands to such drugs. 

 

* Wound was found on her vagina. 

And her hymen was torn apart.

And blood was found inside the vagina. 

 

Do you people still believe the first police report that she was not rapped? 

 

* And then her blood and hair was found in the temple, and has been proved by the DNA test. 

 

* And the dress was washed by the police officer in order to destroy the evidence. 
But Delhi Lab still found the stains of blood on the dress due to high technique equipment. 
Secondly, the Photos right after the discovery of her dead body are also proving that blood was present on the dress, but later it was not, which also proves that the dress was washed. 

 

* And then the dozens of Phone calls between police officer and the one of the accused also proving their connection with each other. 

 

I invite you all to see all the "Forensic" evidences in this case here, after which there is no room left for the conspiracy theories. 

 

 

If you are truthful, and have humanity in you, then this case is simple. 

 

If you are biased, and want to introduce the conspiracy theories to destroy the case, then it is your own fate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FischerTal]

 

It is a "secondary" issue and not the primary one. Crime Branch has not definitely given the date about it (as it is clear in this video itself). Or even we could assume the Crime Branch made a mistake in writing of the events. 

 

The "primary" proofs are the forensic proofs from the Delhi High Technology Lab. 

 

Request to Hindu Ekta Manjh supporters: Please use your Rationale

 

Do you really believe the first Police report by the police officer (who was later accused of corruption by the Crime Branch)? 

 

This report claimed that the little girl was not rapped in all these days. 

But this same report claims that the "Motive" of abduction of little girl was to "rape" her. 

 

Once again, do you really believe that the abductors became angels during all these days and they didn't rape her? I wonder if you are naive, or are you biased? 

 

Your rationale will guide you without any doubt in this case, if you really have humanity in you. 

 

 

Delhi Lab:

 

You blamed Mufti government for being communal. But what would you do when it is Delhi Lab which is telling:

 

* She was drugged.

Stomach samples were taken and drugs are found. 

While the first police report claims "No Drugs", as the young non adult boy was unable to get his hands to such drugs. 

 

* Wound was found on her vagina. 

And her hymen was torn apart.

And blood was found inside the vagina. 

 

Do you people still believe the first police report that she was not rapped? 

 

* And then her blood and hair was found in the temple, and has been proved by the DNA test. 

 

* And the dress was washed by the police officer in order to destroy the evidence. 
But Delhi Lab still found the stains of blood on the dress due to high technique equipment. 
Secondly, the Photos right after the discovery of her dead body are also proving that blood was present on the dress, but later it was not, which also proves that the dress was washed. 

 

* And then the dozens of Phone calls between police officer and the one of the accused also proving their connection with each other. 

 

I invite you all to see all the "Forensic" evidences in this case here, after which there is no room left for the conspiracy theories. 

 

 

If you are truthful, and have humanity in you, then this case is simple. 

 

If you are biased, and want to introduce the conspiracy theories to destroy the case, then it is your own fate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you are so sure truth is on your side, why are you people against CBI probe?

[Singh bling]

 

It is a "secondary" issue and not the primary one. Crime Branch has not definitely given the date about it (as it is clear in this video itself). Or even we could assume the Crime Branch made a mistake in writing of the events. 

 

The "primary" proofs are the forensic proofs from the Delhi High Technology Lab. 

 

Request to Hindu Ekta Manjh supporters: Please use your Rationale

 

Do you really believe the first Police report by the police officer (who was later accused of corruption by the Crime Branch)? 

 

This report claimed that the little girl was not rapped in all these days. 

But this same report claims that the "Motive" of abduction of little girl was to "rape" her. 

 

Once again, do you really believe that the abductors became angels during all these days and they didn't rape her? I wonder if you are naive, or are you biased? 

 

Your rationale will guide you without any doubt in this case, if you really have humanity in you. 

 

 

Delhi Lab:

 

You blamed Mufti government for being communal. But what would you do when it is Delhi Lab which is telling:

 

* She was drugged.

Stomach samples were taken and drugs are found. 

While the first police report claims "No Drugs", as the young non adult boy was unable to get his hands to such drugs. 

 

* Wound was found on her vagina. 

And her hymen was torn apart.

And blood was found inside the vagina. 

 

Do you people still believe the first police report that she was not rapped? 

 

* And then her blood and hair was found in the temple, and has been proved by the DNA test. 

 

* And the dress was washed by the police officer in order to destroy the evidence. 
But Delhi Lab still found the stains of blood on the dress due to high technique equipment. 
Secondly, the Photos right after the discovery of her dead body are also proving that blood was present on the dress, but later it was not, which also proves that the dress was washed. 

 

* And then the dozens of Phone calls between police officer and the one of the accused also proving their connection with each other. 

 

I invite you all to see all the "Forensic" evidences in this case here, after which there is no room left for the conspiracy theories. 

 

 

If you are truthful, and have humanity in you, then this case is simple. 

 

If you are biased, and want to introduce the conspiracy theories to destroy the case, then it is your own fate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The rape and murder happened in Jammu and Kashmir ,Where one of the worst conflict is going on . Don't trust anyone

[Alam_dar]

 

If you are so sure truth is on your side, why are you people against CBI probe?

Hindu Ekta Manch says they are against Crime Branch investigations while it comes under Mehboba Mufti and her government could influence the officers of Crime Branch. 

But this same argument goes against the CBI, which is under the central government of BJP, and BJP could influence the investigations of CBI. And in fact Supreme Court indicated towards it too. 

 

Moreover, it is not only the Crime Branch whom Hindu Ekta Manch is making doubtful.

But it is also the Delhi Forensic Lab whom they are trying to malign. 

And it is not only Crime Branch/Delhi Lab, but also the High Court whom they are trying to malign while High Court has been directly monitoring all the investigations. 

 

So, would you be kind enough and tell us why don't you trust the Crime Branch, the Delhi Lab, and the High Court? Why is your CBI is superior to all these 3 institutions? 

 

And who is going to decide if investigations by Crime Branch are correct or not? Is it the High Court which has to decide it, or the mobs of Hindu Ekta Manch? 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

 

The rape and murder happened in Jammu and Kashmir ,Where one of the worst conflict is going on . Don't trust anyone

Forensic evidence is fine, but how did they connect that to the accused, based on one strand of hair and one prescription in a nearby garbage..totally circumstantial evidence, to call for rape happening in Dev-sthan (forget about placard bollytard bimbos changing it to Devi-sthan!) and having a gang-rape tale woven around an influential guy who has property disputes with the nomadic tribe. Why do nomadic tribes own land/property is another question? Hymen tear is not evidence of rape, you need to have evidence of sperm secretion/foreign pubic hair to call it rape. She was not alive to tell the harrowing tale. 

 

http://www.opindia.com/2018/04/10-questions-raised-by-residents-of-kathua-and-why-they-doubt-the-charge-sheet-filed/

 

Some of the holes in charge-sheet.  Some of the conspiracy theories on outsider's act of influence:

 

Conspiracy 2:

The girl’s body was sent to Kathua district hospital for an autopsy on the afternoon of 17 January. Villagers say that activist-lawyer Talib Hussain was also present. How did he reach Kathua from “his hometown Poonch in a matter of hours”, the villagers asked. Swarajya spoke to many residents of Kootah and Rasana village and all confirmed that Sanji Ram’s name was indeed taken on 17th itself. How was the name of the accused taken before even the final investigation had begun?

 

According to sources, the villagers feel that their reputation is being tainted by spreading false rumours and allegations. The vicious campaign is now targeting the entire Hindu community. We have seen Whatsapp and Facebook posts that depict condoms on Shivji’s Trishul with the girl’s dead body on one spike. It’s disgraceful how their focus has changed from demanding justice for the little girl to maligning the whole community. “Are our gods and our religious symbols synonymous with rape now?” fumes an angry shopkeeper at Kathua.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by coffee_rules

[Alam_dar]

 

Forensic evidence is fine, but how did they connect that to the accused, based on one strand of hair and one prescription in a nearby garbage

* The drug was found in the organs of Asifa. Therefore, no doubt that she was drugged. 

* So, question is how this drug came in hands of juvenile? No answer to this by the Hindu Ekta Manch. 

* But report of Crime Branch seems to be correct here where they are telling that it was police officer Deepak Khajuria who bought these drugs on the description of his uncle. If it is true, then it proves beyond any doubts that crime was not done by only one person (juvenile), but it was a planned crime by a group of people. 

* Crime Branch got the case on 28.01.2018. Which means 13 days after she was killed. During all these days temple was washed and it was tried to remove all proofs of her presence in the temple. Therefore, no wonder that only one hair is found. Remember police officer was himself involved in destroying the evidences. 

* Again question is, why the drug was found in front of the temple, and not in the cowshed? 

 

Once again, I question you to tell us "What was the motive of the abduction by the juvenile"? 

Was it rape? Then why didn't he rape her?

If it was not rape, why then it could not be hatred against the Agarwals which you deny? While it is proven that Sanji Ram and Deepak Khajuria got the history full of issues  with Agarwals. 

 

 

..totally circumstantial evidence, to call for rape happening in Dev-sthan (forget about placard bollytard bimbos changing it to Devi-sthan!)

What difference does it makes whether it was a Devisthan or Devsthan? It is non related issue where the crime took place (at least for me while every place is same and main issue is "Intention" behind this crime). 

 

 

and having a gang-rape tale woven around an influential guy who has property disputes with the nomadic tribe. Why do nomadic tribes own land/property is another question?

Again it is a non issue. Indeed they bought that place as no Indian law says that nomadic tribes are not allowed to buy a land. 
 

 

Hymen tear is not evidence of rape, you need to have evidence of sperm secretion/foreign pubic hair to call it rape. She was not alive to tell the harrowing tale. 

It is not only the hymen, but also the injury in vagina and blood stains in her shalwar, which were found by the advanced Delhi lab despite the washing of her clothes. 

The sub-inspector, who washed her clothes, he may be knowing how to destroy the evidences of sperm. Crime Branch got the case after 13 days and Delhi Lab got the case even later and till that time no sperm evidence stays there- 

 

In last, let us assume no rape took place. Now please tell us the "intention" behind this abduction and the killing. If it was not the intention of rape, then doesn't it prove to be the intention of hatred against the other community? 
 

[FischerTal]

 

Hindu Ekta Manch says they are against Crime Branch investigations while it comes under Mehboba Mufti and her government could influence the officers of Crime Branch. 

But this same argument goes against the CBI, which is under the central government of BJP, and BJP could influence the investigations of CBI. And in fact Supreme Court indicated towards it too. 

 

Moreover, it is not only the Crime Branch whom Hindu Ekta Manch is making doubtful.

But it is also the Delhi Forensic Lab whom they are trying to malign. 

And it is not only Crime Branch/Delhi Lab, but also the High Court whom they are trying to malign while High Court has been directly monitoring all the investigations. 

 

So, would you be kind enough and tell us why don't you trust the Crime Branch, the Delhi Lab, and the High Court? Why is your CBI is superior to all these 3 institutions? 

 

And who is going to decide if investigations by Crime Branch are correct or not? Is it the High Court which has to decide it, or the mobs of Hindu Ekta Manch? 

 

 

You yourself are afraid of CBI investigation because you think it will be influenced by BJP but you expect us to take crime branch word on face value even after their fake charge sheet has been exposed. We won’t submit to jihadis sitting in Srinagar and their manufactured attempt to malign Hindu Dogras of Jammu. This case will go to Supreme Court and they will decide who is right. 

[cric_fan]

A little girl has been brutally murdered. The murderers identified- yet we have peopl here talking about conspiracy theories, worried about their image etc. Disgusting.

[cric_fan]

Ladies & gentlemen, I present to you our resident DNA expert: @coffee_rules 

[Alam_dar]

 

You yourself are afraid of CBI investigation because you think it will be influenced by BJP but you expect us to take crime branch word on face value even after their fake charge sheet has been exposed. We won’t submit to jihadis sitting in Srinagar and their manufactured attempt to malign Hindu Dogras of Jammu. This case will go to Supreme Court and they will decide who is right. 

I think it was Supreme Court of India who criticized the CBI, labelling it as "Caged Parrot" and “its master’s voice”.

 

Could you tell us if Mehboba Mufti's government is really a traitor to India, why then BJP is still in the government with them? 

 

And I am afraid that you takes only one point from my post, and unlink it to the rest of points mentioned in the post, and then criticize it. 

 

For example, you take the point of Crime Branch only, and unlinked it with Delhi Lab, and also unlinked it with direct High Court monitoring, and then started criticizing the Crime Branch. 

 

While the situation is this that investigation by Crime Branch + Delhi Lab Report + High Court Monitoring  is much better option than CBI investigations. You have still not told us what do you have against Delhi Lab as it was not under the Mufti's government influence and the medical report it gave was full of proofs which suggest the drugging of the little girl, and injuries to the vagina, and blood on the shalwar, and hair DNA. 

You are not alone, reality is that that "ALL" the supporters of Hindu Ekta Manch are blaming Crime Branch, but they all have unlinked Crime Branch report from the report of Delhi Lab and they have not told us why they doubt the Delhi Lab report while Delhi Lab is not even under the Mufti's government influence. 

 

And then "none" of Hindu Ekta Manch supporter tells us why they don't trust their own High Court? 

They have full chance to prove Crime Branch guilty in the court. And if High Court agrees with them, then High Court has the power to order the CBI investigations, but not the mob.