Is RCB better off parting with ABV and Kohli?

[adi B]

Chinnaswamy is a pathetic ground to be host if 7 matches,but now that they are stuck with it and the crowd is really supportive and come in good number , so what they should really do is work on the pitch to suit their bowling strength. They've got decent pacers who are not great death bowlers so they could ask for green tops or something similar to aid their weakness.rcb have lost matches from winning position zillion times season after season and yet they gave done zilch to change that !

[asterix]

 

I agree with most of what you say.

But something needs to be tried by RCB management. They are letting it go, fans are flocking the stadium and fansites in hoardes. Virat Kohli has mastered the art of pampering to media and with managed PR, he will give some dialogues like SRK and fans will do aww ooo for him, one man army, will continue to diss all other 20 players. lol

They have to sack him and see how things pan out - atleast try it for few games, if they continue with status quo they are just making a fool out of fans.

Can’t sack him for some Mickey Mouse event as he’s the India captain. 

He already appears disheartened on the field. He looks alone. He doesn’t has a reliable deputy. 

Nehra as bowling coach is sucking already. 

I believe there’s been some issue with ABDV and he suddenly reported sick. His replacement McCullum had to get ready st the last minute. There must be termoil going on in the squad. 

These South Africans have screwed up RCB. 

[G_B_]

I think people have hit the nail on the head

 

If you spend 32 crore on two players the rest of your team suffers.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

I think people have hit the nail on the head

 

If you spend 32 crore on two players the rest of your team suffers.

 

its not that 32 cr, those 2 has won them 90% of their games. Its the other 48 cr thats proved out to be useless

[Straight Drive]

 

I think people have hit the nail on the head

 

If you spend 32 crore on two players the rest of your team suffers.

 

If they had retained them for lesser, instead of Siraj they could have spent more to get Tye or someone else much better than Siraj, instead of Mandeep Singh they could have got Nitish Rana or even T20 star like Evin Lewis. Better Options definitely open up for every spot if more balance is available.

 

One more point, Vettori is coach of Brisbane Heat. Guess who else plays there. Not saying McCullum should not be picked by Vettori but i think Vettori has more faith in McCullum even though he has flopped in IPL in few years. Make of it what you may want to. But that was another unwanted buy.  

[zen]

Richshaw trip probably resulted in ABDV getting viral fever 

 

Coming back to the bowling attack, it is not as bad as what people are making it out to be. What is probably needed is a strategy on how to use those bowlers. For e.g. if these bowlers look for wkts, the strategy should be to go for wkts. On the other hand, if these bowlers rely on bowling economical spell, that is how you have to plan. But at B’lore, one bad ball could be dispatched out of the park. They probably have to go for wkts 

 

Also the batting is not that impressive apart from a couple of players. Iirc, De Kock and BMac, do well against RCB so they probably picked them 

 

moving forward, they should play 2 specialist (ABDV + 1 more) batsmen and 2 specialist bowlers (?) for the international quota. Add Kohli, Sunder, Chahal, etc., to it and the team begins to look much better

[diga]

Consider, for instance, Daniel Vettori. 
Already with three of the best T20 coaching roles - as head coach of Brisbane Heat, Royal Challengers Bangalore and Middlesex - 
he recently acquired a fourth job, with Rajshahi Kings in the Bangladesh Premier League. With his studious air, youth, and excellent 
playing pedigree in the format, Vettori certainly fits the image of what a new-age T20 coach should look like. 
The results suggest otherwise. At each of Brisbane, Bangalore and Middlesex, Vettori has a win ratio of under 45%, according to Dan Weston of
Sports Analytics Advantage - a strikingly poor performance considering the significant financial resources of all the teams, and since he has coached 
for a total of ten T20 seasons, one that can't easily be blamed on a small sample size.Weston had to work out Vettori's results manually: remarkably,
in a game overflowing with statistics, there is no resource that collates something as simple as a coach's win-loss record. 
 

Wow never knew that Vettori had such a poor record..

 

Wonder what Amrith Thomas & co are upto? A winning team with superstars gives back more financially than a losing one

[G_B_]

 

its not that 32 cr, those 2 has won them 90% of their games. Its the other 48 cr thats proved out to be useless

what happens if they get injured?

[philcric]

Just to be clear, the retention cost of VK + AB is not 32 Cr.

 

It's 17 for VK and 11 for AB, which totals to 28. Sarfaraz was 3 Cr. Total 31 Cr for 3 players.

 

For the sake of the team, they should have gone for 2 player retention in VK and AB for a total of 21 Cr or 3 player retention in VK, AB and KL for 33 Cr. The individual remunerations for all (2 or 3) could have been adjusted to 10 - 12 Cr each. Should have used RTM for players like Chahal (which they did) and may be for Watson or another player.

 

That would take a bit of common sense and a bit of dent in salary for team's sake, but our kaptaan was more interested in being the most expensive player in IPL. What a selfish twat.

 

 

 

 

[maniac]

A top order or Rahul,Gayle,Virat and AB should be good enough to win you 9 out of 10 games even if you manage to put together a half decent bowling attack.

 

They probably had Starc one season I think but their bowling has been pathetic every year and then they let go off rahul and retain sarfaraz lol...such bonehead decisions will hurt any team.

 

what they need is capable team management. Really impressed how Moody,Laxman etc back local talent or even fringe players and get maximum out of them every year.

[sarcastic]

 

Just to be clear, the retention cost of VK + AB is not 32 Cr.

 

It's 17 for VK and 11 for AB, which totals to 28. Sarfaraz was 3 Cr. Total 31 Cr for 3 players.

 

For the sake of the team, they should have gone for 2 player retention in VK and AB for a total of 21 Cr or 3 player retention in VK, AB and KL for 33 Cr. The individual remunerations for all (2 or 3) could have been adjusted to 10 - 12 Cr each. Should have used RTM for players like Chahal (which they did) and may be for Watson or another player.

 

That would take a bit of common sense and a bit of dent in salary for team's sake, but our kaptaan was more interested in being the most expensive player in IPL. What a selfish twat.

 

 

 

 

Who should have gone. The players are RCB. If you say players, then you are living in a very idealistic utopia bro! Because no player in IPL will take less money for the sake of a team's success!!! (and the team is just a private enterprise representing a city and not some national team for which you are bound by birth/heritage).