Hydra Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, dial_100 said: There is no need to have a linked database. Sex offender list is not difficult to implement. If proven in court then there name should be fed by local PD to the central database and then going forward they report to their local PD every month. It serves them right as it is painful to maintain regular police contact. But great thing about it is that if they move around without informing the court/PD, then they will be held for the contempt. Any many countries, they cannot get certain jobs, they can be near schools and colleges. Its about time. In Australia, if they are pedos they can't live near schools, parks, beaches, playgrounds the list if long, and they can't work as teachers or be social workers etc, I don't think in India anything like this exists. The police are corrupt and these pedos can live anywhere they want, very disturbing that so many rapes are gang rapes in India it's disgusting. Edited July 19, 2018 by Hydra beetle 1
Moochad Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Hydra said: Does India have a sex offenders database like Australia? Does India even have a linked database so police all over the country know where and when sex offenders move like Australia? There was a proposition by the Indian government this year to establish one, but human rights groups are opposing it. dial_100 1
Clarke Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Moochad said: There was a proposition by the Indian government this year to establish one, but human rights groups are opposing it. Seriously ? Even if they did, do they have voting rights in parliament to block it from becoming law ? Edited July 19, 2018 by Clarke
dial_100 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Moochad said: There was a proposition by the Indian government this year to establish one, but human rights groups are opposing it. Yup. That sounds like our country. Pedos and rapist have bloody rights and not the culprits and their innocent families. beetle and zen 2
Moochad Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, Clarke said: Seriously ? Even if they did, do they have voting rights in parliament to block it from becoming law ? Yes, an example is Human Rights Watch They can't block it perse, but if they pressure some opposition parties to be against it, then teh opposition can oppose it as law. Not to mention they can file a case in the courts against the establishment of such a registry and the court maybe put it on hiatus or scrap it. 58 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Yup. That sounds like our country. Pedos and rapist have bloody rights and not the culprits and their innocent families. I want Modiji to show some spine here and push this registry through, even if it gets stuck in courts Tibarn 1
Clarke Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Moochad said: Yes, an example is Human Rights Watch They can't block it perse, but if they pressure some opposition parties to be against it, then teh opposition can oppose it as law. Not to mention they can file a case in the courts against the establishment of such a registry and the court maybe put it on hiatus or scrap it. I want Modiji to show some spine here and push this registry through, even if it gets stuck in courts That's what I'm saying, even MMS pushed through NGOs for nuclear power. What's the 56 inch chaati gonna do if it cant stand up on something as fundamental as child/women safety. On topic, thos registry is just one step to prevent repeat offendors. The fundamental problem needs pretty much an overhaul of society: gender equality, education, policing, courts and what not. dial_100 1
beetle Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Hydra said: very disturbing that so many rapes are gang rapes in India it's disgusting Cowards get the courage in mobs. Similar for gang rapes. riya and Hydra 1 1
dial_100 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clarke said: That's what I'm saying, even MMS pushed through NGOs for nuclear power. What's the 56 inch chaati gonna do if it cant stand up on something as fundamental as child/women safety. On topic, thos registry is just one step to prevent repeat offendors. The fundamental problem needs pretty much an overhaul of society: gender equality, education, policing, courts and what not. I dont know why arent we have a separate subject in school. Simple topics would be Girls Awareness sex education How to report/whom to approach, using cell phones to report Anonymous reporting to enable other kids reporting abuse if particular child is not comfortable Mandatory school teacher assigned (lady teacher) Boys Teach them how/why to respect girls Use various stories from various cultural back ground to instill morality, social responsibilities make them aware of the new law like offenders list and how it messes up with their career Each year the subject taught to them (better than educating them about bloody Babars and Khilgis) Send a copy of syllabus to parents and have 1-2 sessions each year with them that they understand their responsibility towards their child's awareness towards the subject Implicate those parents who do not participate in school education about this subject and if their kids end up as an offender. Start now and in 4-5 years we will see the results. Edited July 19, 2018 by dial_100 zen, velu and Clarke 3
dial_100 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 There are some strong BJP MPs like Smriti Irani, Sushma Swaraj, Nirmal Sitaraman, Nejma Heptulla, Uma Bharati and Harsimrat Kaur. I have a very simple questions to these MPs, what are they doing and why are they not shaking the world for getting women's safety bill a top priority.
Clarke Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, dial_100 said: I dont know why arent we have a separate subject in school. Simple topics would be Girls Awareness sex education How to report/whom to approach, using cell phones to report Anonymous reporting to enable other kids reporting abuse if particular child is not comfortable Mandatory school teacher assigned (lady teacher) Boys Teach them how/why to respect girls Use various stories from various cultural back ground to instill morality, social responsibilities make them aware of the new law like offenders list and how it messes up with their career Each year the subject taught to them (better than educating them about bloody Babars and Khilgis) Send a copy of syllabus to parents and have 1-2 sessions each year with them that they understand their responsibility towards their child's awareness towards the subject Implicate those parents who do not participate in school education about this subject and if their kids end up as an offender. Start now and in 4-5 years we will see the results. I often think on similar lines. Besides women's safety, the constant focus on hygiene, ethics, general safety, respect for rules & laws, volunteering etc through most of school could be helpful in building a better society. Even though many public and rural schools are ragtag, it could still make a difference via the functional schools. Edited July 19, 2018 by Clarke dial_100 1
Singh bling Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 very shameful ,all deserve no less than death penalty dial_100 1
Singh bling Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, dial_100 said: I dont know why arent we have a separate subject in school. Simple topics would be Girls Awareness sex education How to report/whom to approach, using cell phones to report Anonymous reporting to enable other kids reporting abuse if particular child is not comfortable Mandatory school teacher assigned (lady teacher) Boys Teach them how/why to respect girls Use various stories from various cultural back ground to instill morality, social responsibilities make them aware of the new law like offenders list and how it messes up with their career Each year the subject taught to them (better than educating them about bloody Babars and Khilgis) Send a copy of syllabus to parents and have 1-2 sessions each year with them that they understand their responsibility towards their child's awareness towards the subject Implicate those parents who do not participate in school education about this subject and if their kids end up as an offender. Start now and in 4-5 years we will see the results. First look at condition of Govt schools of India Unless India increase its budget massively and improve education sector particularly schools your suggestion will be a total waste in 90% of schools dial_100 1
dial_100 Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Singh bling said: First look at condition of Govt schools of India Unless India increase its budget massively and improve education sector particularly schools your suggestion will be a total waste in 90% of schools Why are we digressing? Listen, the problem of quality teachers is not just in India, it is a global problem. Places like UP, Bihar are going to be in terrible state cus they were ruled by very uneducated parties. Anyways, besides what does english got to do with the current topic in hand. I see that their hindi is excellent and this topic could be explained in Hindi very well.
wanted_desi Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 I don't even get surprised anymore. Sexually Repression, openly antagonistic law enforcement, Victim blaming and Eve testing is in deeply rooted in blood of India/Indians. beetle 1
Hydra Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Moochad said: There was a proposition by the Indian government this year to establish one, but human rights groups are opposing it. Why would human rights group oppose something like that? Just more excuses, no one in Australia opposed the database when it was first porposed.
Clarke Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hydra said: Why would human rights group oppose something like that? Just more excuses, no one in Australia opposed the database when it was first porposed. Is that your sole reason for existence on this forum ? How super duper awesome Australia is compared to India and by accident of birth you are morally superior and need to lecture us at every opportunity ?
Singh bling Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 4 hours ago, dial_100 said: Why are we digressing? Listen, the problem of quality teachers is not just in India, it is a global problem. Places like UP, Bihar are going to be in terrible state cus they were ruled by very uneducated parties. Anyways, besides what does english got to do with the current topic in hand. I see that their hindi is excellent and this topic could be explained in Hindi very well. This is not about English , maths teachers don't know maths , science teachers don't know science. Your imagination of teachers meeting with parents fits in with public schools of big cities not large majority of schools of India
nikred Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 Is that your sole reason for existence on this forum ? How super duper awesome Australia is compared to India and by accident of birth you are morally superior and need to lecture us at every opportunity ?Reminds me of those silly NRI relatives. [emoji23]"In our America this would never happen." — Any random NRI relative. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk dial_100 and Moochad 2
Moochad Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Hydra said: Why would human rights group oppose something like that? Just more excuses, no one in Australia opposed the database when it was first porposed. ask them https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/04/27/india-sex-offenders-registry-not-answer Quote Moreover, studies by Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union show that sex offender registries in the United States have done more harm than good. Instead of crime prevention, they lead to harassment, ostracism, and violence against former offenders, especially children, and impede their rehabilitation. Please provide your concerns to HRW and ACLU types etc. Tibarn 1
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