Rahul's honeymoon period is over in tests

[prasen82]

do we have stats of rahul's performances in difficult pitches or cases where he was the lone warrior. 

 

kohli , murli vj, pujara, rahane, even pandya and ashwin have few noteworthy performances. would be curious to know about rahul.

 

did we overhype him without considering situational cricket?

[UrmiSinhaRay]

Pressure makes diamonds. KL Rahul will come out of this poor form, and that point of turn will be in Australia. 

He's going to be another Gareebon ka Rohit Sharma-possibly worse.
Will be shitting in his pants entire tour - and the moment when he's gonna be dropped, he'll make one good performance and will secure his seat for the next umpteenth matches.
Useless at the end.


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[coffee_rules]

Dhawan will be back for Australia.

[Straight Drive]

47 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

He's going to be another Gareebon ka Rohit Sharma-possibly worse.
Will be shitting in his pants entire tour - and the moment when he's gonna be dropped, he'll make one good performance and will secure his seat for the next umpteenth matches.
Useless at the end.


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Rohit Sharma : 25 tests, 43 innings, 1479 runs, 39.97 avg

K L Rahul :       30 tests, 49 innings, 1811 runs, 37.72 avg

[UrmiSinhaRay]

Rohit Sharma : 25 tests, 43 innings, 1479 runs, 39.97 avg
K L Rahul :       30 tests, 49 innings, 1811 runs, 37.72 avg

Rohit Sharma got much less backing than Kl Rahul

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[coffee_rules]

7 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Rohit Sharma : 25 tests, 43 innings, 1479 runs, 39.97 avg

K L Rahul :       30 tests, 49 innings, 1811 runs, 37.72 

Did tailunt open in Tests?

[putrevus]

Rahul should be last person to complain about his lack of chances, he has been preferred over two other openers effectively ending their test careers.

 

 

[Straight Drive]

4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Did tailunt open in Tests?

Don't think Rohit Sharma has opened in any tests. But all specialist batsmen are expected to average above 45 atleast to be considered quality batsmen, especially from India which has produced some of the worlds best batsmen in last few decades. Just because Rohit batted in middle order does not allows him to have a below par batting average.The averages of Rohit Sharma, Rahul are very ordinary irrespective of their batting positions and they should look to raise it to acceptable levels.

[Straight Drive]

15 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Rohit Sharma got much less backing than Kl Rahul

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Rohti Sharma doesn't deserves chance if he averages below 40.A country like ours have had enough batsmen averaging above 45. No need to pamper ordinary performing batsmen.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Straight Drive said:

Rohti Sharma doesn't deserves chance if he averages below 40.A country like ours have had enough batsmen averaging above 45. No need to pamper ordinary performing batsmen.

Should Rahul get his chances then. To be honest Rohit never got this many tests in a row.

[Straight Drive]

26 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Should Rahul get his chances then. To be honest Rohit never got this many tests in a row.

Why does a player averaging 39 necessarily be backed. It is also responsibility of players to perform and deserve selections by merit. If we have batsmen averaging over 50 and over 45, why would we need batsmen averaging under 40. While Rohti Sharma was young, Ajinkya Rahane, Cheteshwar Pujara, Murali Vijay were averaging over 45, weren't they?

 

I think selectors will give Rahul more chances even though he has performed below expectations. Rohit Sharma even with a ordinary average was making test teams at times at age of 29, wasn't he. Rahul is just 26. So he is likely to get few more series or maybe a year or two to show he can perform to average expectations. 

 

Rahul is very lucky, in the sense that even a country well known to produce great opening batsmen like Sunny &  Sehwag, the opening standards have dropped. Now we do not even have competition to batsmen having average of 39. Prithvi Shaw, a debutant is now the preferred opener !! and he deserves that given his performance in debut series. Rahul's competition is aged and washed up players like Vijay and Shikhar Dhawan, so he will get in as second preferred opener given lack of competition for next series. 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2018 by Straight Drive

[putrevus]

Spot on , Players have to be held accountable too, Rahul other than his Oval Knock has looked worse than a tailender for over three series spanning one year over three continents.

Can’t remember anyone else getting this long rope in tests .



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[Straight Drive]

Ideally we need one of the opening batsman to be averaging like Sunny (51.12)  or Sehwag (49.34). We have a rich history in the context of great opening batsmen. Both of them hold the fort astonishingly well for more than a decade (Sunny for 16 years of test career and Sehwag for 12 years of test career) on their own. Somehow that richness is getting lost gradually as the new generation openers have looked like very poor performers with the bat in hand as compared to Sunny and Sehwag. Now the situation is that what are the backups if Prithvi Shaw the best inform opening batsman gets injured. The opening spots are in shambles. There is too much of pressure and possibly reliance on 18 year old Prithvi Shaw. Rahul needs to raise his performance by considerable margin given the time invested in him. At this point we are back to where we were post Sehwags retirement in 2013. 5 years down the line and the openers like Shikhar Dhawan, Murali Vijay , Abhinav Mukund, Parthiv Patel and K L Rahul have all performed below par.

[velu]

10 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

No.

 

Rahul was our best batsman in the home series against Australia in 2017 ... when the first 2 tests were on rank turners.

 

Scored  64,  10,  90,  51    in low scoring games.

 

Rahul's problems are against the swinging and seaming ball ...  basically movement by seamers.

 

bunny vs dhananjaya ..

clueless va afghan spinners ..

[zen]

Apart from Agarwal, who else is a promising undebuted opener in Ind? 

Edited October 14, 2018 by zen

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, velu said:

 

bunny vs dhananjaya ..

 

Big difference between tests and ODIs.  

 

2 hours ago, velu said:

clueless va afghan spinners ..

 

You arrived at this from one or two overs  !

[velu]

13 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Big difference between tests and ODIs.  

 

 

You arrived at this from one or two overs  !

 

because the struggle is real

bad player of spin in ODIs rarely turn out to be a good player of spin tests ..

 

and i am maintaining this stand about him for long 

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, velu said:

 

because the struggle is real

bad player of spin in ODIs rarely turn out to be a good player of spin tests ..

 

and i am maintaining this stand about him for long 

 

You are a keen follower of players whose struggle is very real against spinners ...  so you know better than I.      

 

But IMHO there is a difference between failing to score quickly and hence getting out in 3 or 4 matches while being a non-regular in a team ...  and having difficulty in surviving.

 

 

[velu]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

You are a keen follower of players whose struggle is very real against spinners ...  so you know better than I.      

 

But IMHO there is a difference between failing to score quickly and hence getting out in 3 or 4 matches while being a non-regular in a team ...  and having difficulty in surviving.

 

 

 

frankly he was trying to survive against the afghans spinners..  

against dhanajaya ,  instead of trying to read him , he tried to attack him and it backfired .. he did this again and again and he got out to him again and again ..

 

and another complaint i have is , he is way too casual in the way he bats .. good example is how he got out in his first test in england ( we were in a strong position till that point ) 

 

anyway more these technical things which can be rectified , if he is mentally weak then nobody can help him ..

[putrevus]

Forget selectors, would you want him and Prithiv to open against starc, hazlewood, cummins ? 
 
 

At least for first test .


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