panther Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Muloghonto said: So then allah also willed the killings of muslims and whatever happened in Kashmir and will happen in Kashmir. Allah also willed the defeat of Muslims in the past and their genocides. Only spineless cowards make heroes out of those who murdered their ancestors. This is why Iranians will always command more respect worldwide than Pashtuns. Yes All is by Allah will.
Muloghonto Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, panther said: Yes All is by Allah will. It’s also allahs will that you are cowards and ancestor haters, which is why you are seen as barbarian scum. Also allahs wish. Norman 1
panther Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: So then allah also willed the killings of muslims and whatever happened in Kashmir and will happen in Kashmir. Allah also willed the defeat of Muslims in the past and their genocides. Only spineless cowards make heroes out of those who murdered their ancestors. This is why Iranians will always command more respect worldwide than Pashtuns. Lol these are my views alone, most people don't even know who Amir Sabuktagin is. I don't know why you are being so brave behind your pc, your like a 50 year old dude with diabetes, you wouldn't call me a coward to my face I know that for sure.
Muloghonto Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, panther said: Lol these are my views alone, most people don't even know who Amir Sabuktagin is. I don't know why you are being so brave behind your pc, your like a 50 year old dude with diabetes, you wouldn't call me a coward to my face I know that for sure. Console yourself with that while the whole world thinks of you as cowards. As I said, nobody respects people who glorify those who killed their own ancestors. Because that’s the biggest cowardice of all. This is why the world respects Iranians more than you Pathans. Id call you coward wherever you are bcause hose who praise the ones who killed and raped their own ancestors are cowards. Not just cowards, but cowards who have their balls chopped off. Maybe you are a victim of baccheybazi, which can explain your cowardice. Edited August 6, 2019 by Muloghonto coffee_rules, diga and sergio04 2 1
Alam_dar Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 4 hours ago, panther said: 4 hours ago, panther said: Allah willed it. Why Allah willed the killing of millions and then taken millions of women to be raped as slaves? And Allah also made millions of children to serve whole of their life as slaves. Even when those slaves got children, then those children were also slaves by birth? As compared to Muhammad, we have great Buddah, who never used sword for his teachings. But people automatically accepted his message and became his followers. Buddah never ordered killing of millions. Buddah's teachings were the cause of abolishing of even the Bazars of Slavery in India. Therefore, question is how wise was Allah as compared to Buddah? Then came the secular non-religious West. England abolished slavery from it's colonies even in 1843, otherwise all of your ancestor mothers would have been made slave and raped by the English people, and your ancestor fathers would have been killed. Actually, if rest of the world followed the law of Allah TODAY, then all Muslims would have been killed and all their women would have been raped as slaves, while Muslims are weak today. I just hope that you ponder upon it and would be able to see the draconian laws of Allah. To be frank, Allah does not exist, but it was Muhammad who made these bloodthirsty laws of killing men and taking women/children as slaves when he became powerful in Madina.
Number Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) While these things were not limited to Arabians as invaders have always looted and committed atrocities throughout the history, but honouring people who killed/raped/enslaved their forefathers is a very strange form of stockholm syndrome among Pakistanis. Edited August 7, 2019 by Number Alam_dar 1
sandeep Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Actually most of our history of Islamic attrocities in India are from Muslim chroniclers themselves. Taqik va hind for example is a first hand record: the author travelled with the army himself. Only from 1600s do we see chronicles of attrocities from non Muslim sources, in the form of Jesuit correspondence back to Rome. Hindus actually didn’t chronicle much/if they did it didn’t survive the ravages of the time, in a formal manner. The Islamic apologists say that all the numbers are inflated, to make their kindhearted invaders seem like kaffir killers to the awaam back in Afghanistan and Central Asia,because they had a reputation to uphold and all, but we all know that’s not how history works in recording it. Most Indians are still unaware of the slave trade of hindus that even the Mughals carried on, long after the invasions from Afghanistan stopped. So many Indians were sold as slaves in the market of central asia, bartered for horses. But a lot of them used to die in the long trek to central asia, especially because they weren't really given appropriate clothing, footwear, food etc to survive the journey. That is why those mountains came to be known as Hindu Kush. Bulk of those hindu slaves came from guess where? Present day pure land. This was the primary reason for the en masse conversions in those regions - I don't really blame them - if changing your religion meant you could possibly stay alive and not be enslaved, anybody would do that. Alam_dar and Norman 1 1
sandeep Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Alam_dar said: Why Allah willed the killing of millions and then taken millions of women to be raped as slaves? And Allah also made millions of children to serve whole of their life as slaves. Even when those slaves got children, then those children were also slaves by birth? As compared to Muhammad, we have great Buddah, who never used sword for his teachings. But people automatically accepted his message and became his followers. Buddah never ordered killing of millions. Buddah's teachings were the cause of abolishing of even the Bazars of Slavery in India. Therefore, question is how wise was Allah as compared to Buddah? Then came the secular non-religious West. England abolished slavery from it's colonies even in 1843, otherwise all of your ancestor mothers would have been made slave and raped by the English people, and your ancestor fathers would have been killed. Actually, if rest of the world followed the law of Allah TODAY, then all Muslims would have been killed and all their women would have been raped as slaves, while Muslims are weak today. I just hope that you ponder upon it and would be able to see the draconian laws of Allah. To be frank, Allah does not exist, but it was Muhammad who made these bloodthirsty laws of killing men and taking women/children as slaves when he became powerful in Madina. Dude stop blaming Allah and Muhammed for the actions of other individuals. All religions have their share of nonsense. It is for the muslims to distill the appropriate morality based on the era you live in. Alam_dar 1
sandeep Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Number said: While these things were not limited to Arabians as invaders have always looted and committed atrocities throughout the history, but honouring people who killed/raped/enslaved their forefathers is a very strange form of stockholm syndrome among Pakistanis. Its not strange at all. After all, who wants to associate themselves with slaves? Its far more easier to associate yourself with the "winning warriors". There's a reason why most Afghans look down on Pakistan. They know that their ancestors used to come down the mountains to loot and pillage the present day Pakistanis, as regularly as the seasons change. Take any page of the history of the sub-continent and find ONE muslim king or leader who was a son of the soil of present-day Pakistan. You simply won't find any. These are the spiritual progeny of Ambhi, not Pururaj.
Number Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, sandeep said: Its not strange at all. After all, who wants to associate themselves with slaves? Its far more easier to associate yourself with the "winning warriors". There's a reason why most Afghans look down on Pakistan. They know that their ancestors used to come down the mountains to loot and pillage the present day Pakistanis, as regularly as the seasons change. Take any page of the history of the sub-continent and find ONE muslim king or leader who was a son of the soil of present-day Pakistan. You simply won't find any. These are the spiritual progeny of Ambhi, not Pururaj. I think Maharaja Ranjit Singh was the only one who is close to them who resisted Afghans and defeated them in battles. However instead of making him a symbol of Punjab supremacy they identify with Abdalis or Gohris.
panther Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Alam_dar said: Why Allah willed the killing of millions and then taken millions of women to be raped as slaves? And Allah also made millions of children to serve whole of their life as slaves. Even when those slaves got children, then those children were also slaves by birth? As compared to Muhammad, we have great Buddah, who never used sword for his teachings. But people automatically accepted his message and became his followers. Buddah never ordered killing of millions. Buddah's teachings were the cause of abolishing of even the Bazars of Slavery in India. Therefore, question is how wise was Allah as compared to Buddah? Then came the secular non-religious West. England abolished slavery from it's colonies even in 1843, otherwise all of your ancestor mothers would have been made slave and raped by the English people, and your ancestor fathers would have been killed. Actually, if rest of the world followed the law of Allah TODAY, then all Muslims would have been killed and all their women would have been raped as slaves, while Muslims are weak today. I just hope that you ponder upon it and would be able to see the draconian laws of Allah. To be frank, Allah does not exist, but it was Muhammad who made these bloodthirsty laws of killing men and taking women/children as slaves when he became powerful in Madina. All this excess writing is not needed, All muslims Know that Nothing happens except Allah wills it.
Epic Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Number said: I think Maharaja Ranjit Singh was the only one who is close to them who resisted Afghans and defeated them in battles. However instead of making him a symbol of Punjab supremacy they identify with Abdalis or Gohris. Pakistan is built on religion so they will see Muslims like Mughals as their legacy who ruled 1000 years over India. Actually, the last rulers of majority of Pakistan (i.e Punjab) were Sikhs before the British annexed it. It was always religion based rule so no wonder muslims will revere the Mughals. Locals would also help the Muslim rulers. Alam_dar 1
Alam_dar Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Epic said: Pakistan is built on religion so they will see Muslims like Mughals as their legacy who ruled 1000 years over India. Actually, the last rulers of majority of Pakistan (i.e Punjab) were Sikhs before the British annexed it. It was always religion based rule so no wonder muslims will revere the Mughals. Locals would also help the Muslim rulers. Exactly my observation. Whole problem lies in Religion that present day Pakistanis or even Indian Muslims revere the Muslim Looters from the Central Asia. Without believing in Allah, it would have been easy for them to understand the meaning of Humanity, and how these Muslim rulers were far far away from humanity and Allah's law are draconian.
Alam_dar Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, panther said: All this excess writing is not needed, All muslims Know that Nothing happens except Allah wills it. Muslims are totally wrong then. Allah does not exist. It was not Allah, but it were the human beings like you and me who got rid of religious influence in Europe, and then they broke the chains of slavery. All this revelation was the Drama of Muhammad only. Allah could never be so UNJUST to let millions of women to be raped for a crime they never commit. Same is about the children and girls. Do you know that even Judaism/Christianity is much better than Muhammad's Islam when it comes to slavery? In Judaism/Christianity, if master rapes his slave girl, then he has to take her as his wife. But Allah's Islam is such a dirty religion where one master could rape her and after fulfilling the sexual lust, he could sell her to 2nd master, who again rapes her and then sell to 3rd master and thus this chain continues. How could you still believe in such Allah? It was actually Muhammad who was following the ignorant Kuffar culture regarding rape of slave girls by all her masters.
Alam_dar Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, sandeep said: Dude stop blaming Allah and Muhammed for the actions of other individuals. All religions have their share of nonsense. It is for the muslims to distill the appropriate morality based on the era you live in. Sir, You are correct in general. But as far as I know Muhammad and his religion, then I am sure that SYSTEM of Islam is different than other system of other religions. For other religions it was easier to get reformed. But BASE of Islam prohibits the reformations. There is a reason that we see rise of Jihadist Islam today. There are many Muslims who are good people. But they start behaving worse due to the Islamic teachings. There are so many Pakistani atheists where their family earlier loved them, but now don't want to even see them, and in many extreme cases threating to kill them for being apostates. These people are not behaving like this at their own, but it is due to the religious teachings of Islam, and for that Muhammad is responsible.
Texy Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) All I want to know is didnt Kareena kapoor khan learn any history at all before naming her kid Taimur??? Edited August 7, 2019 by Texy Norman 1
sandeep Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Texy said: All I want to know is didnt Kareena kapoor khan learn any history at all before naming her kid Taimur??? Saif Ali Khan and his family actually have Afghan and Central Asian roots. Not the same as most greenbros.
panther Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: Muslims are totally wrong then. Allah does not exist. It was not Allah, but it were the human beings like you and me who got rid of religious influence in Europe, and then they broke the chains of slavery. All this revelation was the Drama of Muhammad only. Allah could never be so UNJUST to let millions of women to be raped for a crime they never commit. Same is about the children and girls. Do you know that even Judaism/Christianity is much better than Muhammad's Islam when it comes to slavery? In Judaism/Christianity, if master rapes his slave girl, then he has to take her as his wife. But Allah's Islam is such a dirty religion where one master could rape her and after fulfilling the sexual lust, he could sell her to 2nd master, who again rapes her and then sell to 3rd master and thus this chain continues. How could you still believe in such Allah? It was actually Muhammad who was following the ignorant Kuffar culture regarding rape of slave girls by all her masters. Morality is decided by the creator for the created.
Charlie_ Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 9:53 AM, Gollum said: Babar, Ghori, Abdali...these are the people Pak names its missiles after. Ironically these monsters did majority of the damage in present day Pakistan and not present day India. What a way to honor one's ancestors !!!!! Also as our Defence Min tweeted recently: You cannot shame a Pakistani. The immediate response of a Pakistani liberal would be to pass on lascivious and predatory comments on "Bharat mata" that will lead all the way up to Indian women. One thing Rajnath inadvertently got it right is to refer to Pakiland as "her". That's the greatest insult in a Pakistani's book. They proudly identify their country with Bradford style groomers and the rest of the world as the child victims. The "her" doesn't sit well with them. diga and rahulrulezz 1 1
Alam_dar Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 3 hours ago, panther said: Morality is decided by the creator for the created. The existence of the Creator is judged through the wisdom in his laws and system. But when we see that the all-knowing and most wise creator was taking the laws of slavery from the ignorant Kafir Arabs, which were full of Injustice and tyranny, then we have to sure that this claim of being creator is false and only a deception. Almighty Creator never appears in person to us. If he does it, then we could recognise him. But in absence of his personal appearance, we have only one way of judging if the so called prophet is telling the truth about angel and revelation from Allah, or if he is doing this drama at his own. And there are ample proofs where Quran and Hadith are full of all kind of scientific mistakes.
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