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On 9/30/2019 at 5:17 PM, Gollum said:

World Athletics Championships going on in Doha, Annu Rani in javelin final, NR, 5th best in qualifying. Mostly we have done badly, only positive being finishing 7th in mixed 4x400 relay...baton change was extremely poor. No Neeraj, no Hima...neither fully fit. 

Bahrain and Qatar with their African imports, buying talent :facepalm:

China has been a revelation, is there something they can't do?

Table standing at present (ANA=Russia...cos of doping scandal)

 
Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total
1 22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States (USA) 4 7 2 13
2 22px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China (CHN) 2 2 2 6
3 22px-Flag_of_Jamaica.svg.png Jamaica (JAM) 2 2 0 4
4 22px-Flag_of_Kenya.svg.png Kenya (KEN) 2 0 1 3
22px-ANA_flag_%282017%29.svg.png Authorised Neutral Athletes (ANA)[1] 2 0 0 2
5 22px-Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg.png Ethiopia (ETH) 1 2 0 3
6 22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan (JPN) 1 0 0 1
22px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands (NED) 1 0 0 1
22px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway (NOR) 1 0 0 1
22px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden (SWE) 1 0 0 1
22px-Flag_of_Uganda.svg.png Uganda (UGA) 1 0 0 1

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Olympics are such a sham.

 

They may have been relevant in ancient Greece, when humans had to run around and lift heavy stuff all day.

Today when we have machines to do most of our grunt work, why should we eulogise those who can run the fastest or jump the farthest?

 

Absolute sham of an event. GoI shouldn't spend a penny on the Olympics. Instead use that money to develop basic sports facilties in schools.

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8 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Olympics are such a sham.

 

They may have been relevant in ancient Greece, when humans had to run around and lift heavy stuff all day.

Today when we have machines to do most of our grunt work, why should we eulogise those who can run the fastest or jump the farthest?

 

Absolute sham of an event. GoI shouldn't spend a penny on the Olympics. Instead use that money to develop basic sports facilties in schools.

Olympics is the pinnacle for any athlete. What is the point of spending money on athletics if olympics is ignored? Only sports that will be left is Cricket,Soccer,Tennis and Golf. 2/4 are rich people sports still Golf and Tennis. Cricket has enough facilities and soccer well maybe you have a point.

 

The only reason badminton got a boost in recent times is because of Saina and Sindhu winning medals. Same goes for wrestling and boxing in the North.

 

 

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On 10/16/2019 at 8:17 PM, maniac said:

Olympics is the pinnacle for any athlete. What is the point of spending money on athletics if olympics is ignored? Only sports that will be left is Cricket,Soccer,Tennis and Golf. 2/4 are rich people sports still Golf and Tennis. Cricket has enough facilities and soccer well maybe you have a point.

The only reason badminton got a boost in recent times is because of Saina and Sindhu winning medals. Same goes for wrestling and boxing in the North.

 

The point is that our kids are more outdoorsy. They are generally fitter and in the long run our expense/dependence on medicine is reduced. Also lesser work days are lost to illnesses.

 

Its great that our badminton girls are winning medals. All I'm saying is that the state should bear the cost of training them. It should be borne by the private industry.

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On 10/16/2019 at 1:25 AM, Mariyam said:

Olympics are such a sham.

 

They may have been relevant in ancient Greece, when humans had to run around and lift heavy stuff all day.

Today when we have machines to do most of our grunt work, why should we eulogise those who can run the fastest or jump the farthest?

 

Absolute sham of an event. GoI shouldn't spend a penny on the Olympics. Instead use that money to develop basic sports facilties in schools.

this thought anti human basically.I feel humans have always aspired to be the best  version of themselves.Its the whole point of all sports including cricket,Olympics are a celebration of the best a human can possibly be and i love it.

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Olympic hockey qualification 1st leg y'day at Kalinga.

 

Indian women beat USA 5-1...stupendous show because similar strength teams, USA dominated us in 1st quarter before our girls found their rhythm. Best I have seen them play since 2017 Asia Cup matches against Japan and China. Of course no chance of medaling in Tokyo, but good to see some quality hockey. Rani Rampal after a slow start was brilliant.

 

Indian men beat Russia 4-2...ghatiya, low IQ hockey on full display. Flattering scoreline. Something is off since last year's Asian Games, we are going backwards, too many players playing on past reputation, poor tactics, sloppy defending, massively declined GK. Some good dribbling skills and high fitness standard but we aren't going to challenge the European powers (and Aussies/Kiwis/Argentinians) playing such unimaginative hockey. The Dutch coach Max Caldas made interesting observations about our training methods recently, about how our players aren't being trained to apply their minds on the field, how they aren't training to create/solve problems on the field etc instead working on basic skills like ball trapping and marking...contrast with European training philosophy where players are encouraged to be creative. 18 months back I thought our lads would win a medal in either the WC or Olympics, suffice to say that ship has sailed..dunno what's more infuriating, these guys or our white ball cricket teams? Hockey India has made changes recently which is going to kill the sport in our country, like the 5 a side format in HIL :facepalm:, why are our sports administrators such idiotic, inept and insufferable pricks? HI sucks :thumpdown:

 

Today 2nd leg, hope we complete the job without much tension. 

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Tokyo (men)

Event Dates Location Quotas Qualifier(s)
Host 1 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan
2018 Asian Games 19 August – 1 September 2018 Jakarta, Indonesia 0 A
2019 Pan American Games 30 July – 10 August 2019 Lima, Peru 1 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina
2019 African Olympic Qualifier 12–18 August 2019 Stellenbosch, South Africa 1 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa
2019 EuroHockey Championship 16–24 August 2019 Antwerp, Belgium 1 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium
2019 Oceania Cup 5–8 September 2019 Rockhampton, Australia 1 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia
2019 FIH Olympic Qualifiers 25 October – 3 November 2019 N/A 7 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain
Total 12

 

3 more matches, expect NZ, GER, GBR to join the others....LOL Pak!s, aur kitna maar khaoge, laanat :hysterical:

Team 1 Agg. Team 2 1st leg 2nd leg
Spain 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png 6–5 23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France 3–3 3–2
Netherlands 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png 10–5 23px-Flag_of_Pakistan.svg.png Pakistan 4–4 6–1
Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn 6–6
(5–4 p.s.o.)
23px-Flag_of_Ireland_hockey_team.svg.png Ireland 3–5 3–1
India 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png 11–3 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 4–2 7–1
New Zealand 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png South Korea 3–2 3 Nov
Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 2 Nov 3 Nov
Great Britain 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Malaysia.svg.png Malaysia 2 Nov 3 Nov

 

Women

Event Dates Location Quotas Qualifier
Host nation N/A N/A 1 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan
2018 Asian Games 19 August – 1 September 2018 Indonesia Jakarta 0 1
2019 Pan American Games 29 July – 9 August 2019 Peru Lima 1 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina
2019 African Olympic Qualifier 12–18 August 2019 South Africa Stellenbosch 1 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa
2019 EuroHockey Championship 17–25 August 2019 Belgium Antwerp 1 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands
2019 Oceania Cup 5–8 September 2019 Australia Rockhampton 1 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand
2019 FIH Olympic Qualifiers 25 October – 3 November 2019 N/A 7 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia
23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain
Total 12  


Expect GER, GBR, IRE to qualify as well

Team 1 Agg. Team 2 1st leg 2nd leg
Australia 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s 9–2 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 4–2 5–0
China 23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ 2–2
(2–1 p.s.o.)
23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 0–2 2–0
Spain 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png 4–1 23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png South Korea 2–1 2–0
India 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png 6–5 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 5–1 1–4
Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png Italy 2–0 3 Nov
Great Britain 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Chile.svg.png Chile 3–0 3 Nov
Ireland 23px-Flag_of_Ireland_hockey_team.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 2 Nov 3 Nov

 

For both men and women:  Japs qualified both as host and continental champion, therefore that quota is added to the qualification events rather than going to the runner-up of the tournament. 

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Tokyo (men)

Event Dates Location Quotas Qualifier(s)
Host 1 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan
2018 Asian Games 19 August – 1 September 2018 Jakarta, Indonesia 0 A
2019 Pan American Games 30 July – 10 August 2019 Lima, Peru 1 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina
2019 African Olympic Qualifier 12–18 August 2019 Stellenbosch, South Africa 1 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa
2019 EuroHockey Championship 16–24 August 2019 Antwerp, Belgium 1 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium
2019 Oceania Cup 5–8 September 2019 Rockhampton, Australia 1 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia
2019 FIH Olympic Qualifiers 25 October – 3 November 2019 N/A 7 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada
23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands
23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain
Total 12

 

3 more matches, expect NZ, GER, GBR to join the others....LOL Pak!s, aur kitna maar khaoge, laanat :hysterical:

Team 1 Agg. Team 2 1st leg 2nd leg
Spain 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png 6–5 23px-Flag_of_France.svg.png France 3–3 3–2
Netherlands 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png 10–5 23px-Flag_of_Pakistan.svg.png Pakistan 4–4 6–1
Canada 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn 6–6
(5–4 p.s.o.)
23px-Flag_of_Ireland_hockey_team.svg.png Ireland 3–5 3–1
India 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png 11–3 23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png Russia 4–2 7–1
New Zealand 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png South Korea 3–2 3 Nov
Germany 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 2 Nov 3 Nov
Great Britain 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png   23px-Flag_of_Malaysia.svg.png Malaysia 2 Nov 3 Nov

 

Women

Event Dates Location Quotas Qualifier
Host nation N/A N/A 1 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan
2018 Asian Games 19 August – 1 September 2018 Indonesia Jakarta 0 1
2019 Pan American Games 29 July – 9 August 2019 Peru Lima 1 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina
2019 African Olympic Qualifier 12–18 August 2019 South Africa Stellenbosch 1 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa
2019 EuroHockey Championship
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On 11/2/2019 at 1:14 AM, Gollum said:

Olympic hockey qualification 1st leg y'day at Kalinga.

 

Indian women beat USA 5-1...stupendous show because similar strength teams, USA dominated us in 1st quarter before our girls found their rhythm. Best I have seen them play since 2017 Asia Cup matches against Japan and China. Of course no chance of medaling in Tokyo, but good to see some quality hockey. Rani Rampal after a slow start was brilliant.

 

Indian men beat Russia 4-2...ghatiya, low IQ hockey on full display. Flattering scoreline. Something is off since last year's Asian Games, we are going backwards, too many players playing on past reputation, poor tactics, sloppy defending, massively declined GK. Some good dribbling skills and high fitness standard but we aren't going to challenge the European powers (and Aussies/Kiwis/Argentinians) playing such unimaginative hockey. The Dutch coach Max Caldas made interesting observations about our training methods recently, about how our players aren't being trained to apply their minds on the field, how they aren't training to create/solve problems on the field etc instead working on basic skills like ball trapping and marking...contrast with European training philosophy where players are encouraged to be creative. 18 months back I thought our lads would win a medal in either the WC or Olympics, suffice to say that ship has sailed..dunno what's more infuriating, these guys or our white ball cricket teams? Hockey India has made changes recently which is going to kill the sport in our country, like the 5 a side format in HIL :facepalm:, why are our sports administrators such idiotic, inept and insufferable pricks? HI sucks :thumpdown:

 

Today 2nd leg, hope we complete the job without much tension. 

well said, indeed.

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On 8/21/2019 at 7:30 PM, velu said:

most of the sports in Olympics are for gays and trannies :wall:  

Sports don't mean anything. They don't benefit society that much, in fact you could say they are used as a distraction by the government and to con fans out of money by owners of sports teams.

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Field hockey groups out:

 

Group stage

Teams divided into two groups of six nations, playing every team in their group once. Three points awarded for a victory, one for a draw. The top four teams per group qualify for the quarter-finals.

 

MEN

Group A

Pos Team
 
Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification
1 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Quarter-finals
2 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  
6 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan (H) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
First match(es) will be played on 25 July 2020. 
Rules for classification: 1) points; 2) matches won; 3) goal difference; 4) goals for; 5) head-to-head result; 6) field goals scored.
(H) Host.

Group B

Pos Team
 
Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification
1 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Quarter-finals
2 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png Great Britain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  
6 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

 

 

WOMEN

Group A

Pos Team
 
Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification
1 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Quarter-finals
2 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png Great Britain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  
6 23px-Flag_of_South_Africa.svg.png South Africa 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
First match(es) will be played on 25 July 2020. Source:[citation needed]
Rules for classification: 1) points; 2) matches won; 3) goal difference; 4) goals for; 5) head-to-head result; 6) field goals scored.

Group B

Pos Team
 
Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification
1 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Quarter-finals
2 23px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png Argentina 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  
6 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan (H) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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In women's hockey if we avoid last place finish I will consider it wonderful news.

 

When it comes to men, no chance against Aussies. NZ is our bogey team (like in ICC tournaments :((), likewise Arg generally finds it tough against us, Spain is touch and go. if we qualify to next phase we will be underdogs against all 4 teams of the other group: BEL, GER, NED, GBR (CAN, RSA no qualification chance with all due respect)...doesn't matter who we face, in fact GBR may be a tougher test than GER. But nothing insurmountable, only guys against whom we have no chance are those bloody Aussies (only ARG and NED are tough match-ups for them) and luckily we will avoid them in QF. If we can win QF we'll have 2 additional chances at getting our 1st hockey medal since 1980 Moscow. 

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