ICC to consider mandatory four-day Tests

[Zero_Unit]

38 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

What a silly reductionist argument that is predicated on the underlying assumption that somethings inherent value could only consist of its financial utility. Like I said, the market likes Pornhub more than Khan academy. Shall we give PornHub precedence? Who told you cricket is a business? Cricket is mainly about testing one's skill, temperament, gentlemanly behaviour, competition between the best and bravery. t20 performs worse in all those metrics highlighted in bold.  There are so many things in life in addition to money. Money is a means to an end, not the end. Also do you have figures to show that since the arrival of t20 that test cricket has generated less stadium and tv revenue internationally? If so, to what extent? Then we need to look at whether test cricket has been given equal footing in terms of marketing and commercial exposure. Suits some people to hoard all the power in one country rather than maintain an international game. 

You say that my argument is silly, but then you go on to make arguments that has nothing to do with one another ... Why does people go to pornhub? Why khanacademy? Do you know or do I actually have to spell it out for you. And you think am being silly when you come one and say cricket is not a business? I can't have a debate with a person who doesn't understand what they are talking about, let alone trying to educate people ... 

If you still don't understand why people are lined up to play india compared to ireland, you definitely DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MARKET OR ECONOMY.

[mancalledsting]

29 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said:

You say that my argument is silly, but then you go on to make arguments that has nothing to do with one another ... Why does people go to pornhub? Why khanacademy? Do you know or do I actually have to spell it out for you. And you think am being silly when you come one and say cricket is not a business? I can't have a debate with a person who doesn't understand what they are talking about, let alone trying to educate people ... 

If you still don't understand why people are lined up to play india compared to ireland, you definitely DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MARKET OR ECONOMY.

Yes, unlike candles which are strongly related to cricket. 

[bhakum20]

if this is being done to free up the calendar, then bilateral LOI’s should be scrapped as they’re huge borefests. Limit LOI’s to multi-team series or ICC championships.

 

Tests will never die because there will always be fans who enjoy watching bowling and cricket is all about being able to bowl sides out. Unfortunately number of bowling fans << batting fans which is why we have LOI’s.

 

With that being said I’m all for reducing length of tests. As I’ve said before reduce wickets in hand to six and days to three.

[bhakum20]

The most boring part about tests is watching the tail wag, reducing wickets in hand to six is the way to go

[cowboysfan]

no Asian country should  to this,spinners will be irrelevant  if they cant bowl on day 5 pitches.

[Zero_Unit]

3 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

Yes, unlike candles which are strongly related to cricket. 

Right, re-read what I wrote, Candle and cricket has nothing to do with each other, however candle and lightbulb are in the same business catagory - providing light (which I used it to provided an example of how economy works). You on the other hand are comparing PORN with EDUCATION ... wtf bro? Either you actually mean what you did - and that automatically makes your argument baseless, or I have no clue what you're trying to tell me. You're welcome to re-explain your POV but from what I read, you make absolutely no sense and you lack business/economic knowledge.

[kosingh]

If we really want more people to attend test cricket, we need to have stars like Shah Rukh Khan in India's playing XI. 

[express bowling]

6 hours ago, mancalledsting said:

Also do you have figures to show that since the arrival of t20 that test cricket has generated less stadium and tv revenue internationally than it did in the pre t20 era? If not, then there's no reason to question its existence based on financial viability. If so, to what extent?

 

Exactly !

 

Test matches are still much more popular in Asia than most other sports ( except cricket LOIs and football  )

 

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Then we need to look at whether test cricket has been given equal footing in terms of marketing and commercial exposure.

 

I outlined this issue in my earlier posts.

 

LOIs and other T20s are usually Day and Night affairs and people get the chance to watch the games as much more people are free in the evenings.

 

And as most tests are played during the day ... spectators don't get chances to watch even if they want to. 

 

So ... till most tests are Day / Night affairs ... it is difficult to compare the popularity of the longest format with the shorter ones.

 

Moreover, ODIs and T20s are marketed much more than tests. Let test matches be marketed too and let's see what happens.

Edited January 2, 2020 by express bowling

[mancalledsting]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Exactly !

 

Test matches are still much more popular in Asia than most other sports ( except cricket LOIs and football  )

 

 

I outlined this issue in my earlier posts.

 

LOIs and other T20s are usually Day and Night affairs and people get the chance to watch the games as much more people are free in the evenings.

 

And as most tests are played during the day ... spectators don't get chances to watch even if they want to. 

 

So ... till most tests are Day / Night affairs ... it is difficult to compare the popularity of the longest format with the shorter ones.

 

Moreover, ODIs and T20s are marketed much more than tests. Let test matches be marketed too and let's see what happens.

Excellent point; recent day night test in Eden gardens tells you about the potential of this ‘unviable’, ‘dead’ and ‘outdated’ format. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

I hve hearing this crap for 2 decades now that test cricket is about to die yet its going on n on. Ppl look forward to Ind-Aus, Ind-ENG, INd-SA, ashes keenly....what ODI series do ppl look forward to then Wc and in t20 also just Wc n IPL. 

 

• Test cricket is played at day time hence ppl are at work unlike LOI cricket
• t20 can be enjoyed by non purist which adds to the crowd but test cricket neways never had them so why comparisons 

[express bowling]

13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

. Ppl look forward to Ind-Aus, Ind-ENG, INd-SA, ashes keenly....

 

Test series to look forward to ....

 

India - Australia 

India - England 

India - SA

India - NZ

Ashes

Australia - SA

England - SA

 

If we can defeat NZ in tests in NZ, it will be remembered for a long time.

 

13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

what ODI series do ppl look forward to then Wc and in t20 also just Wc n IPL. 

 

 

True.

 

Bilateral T20Is are most boring among everything.

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

also this will just affect spin bowlers 

 

5th day is generally when spinners play big role , already there is pink ball which doesnt help spinners much 

In odi we have 2 new balls n 4 fielder rule 

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Shaz1 said:

Atleast batsmen know how to bat in that format.

You need more skillset in tonty tonty than old mans format.

To defend against a good delivery requires skills. That is what test cricket requires.

To dispatch it to the boundary requires more skills.

To send it off for a six requires Sharma level like skills.

 

Edited January 2, 2020 by Khota

[Ankit_sharma03]

43 minutes ago, Khota said:

You need more skillset in tonty tonty than old mans format.

Do defend against a good delivery requires skills. That is what test cricket requires.

Do dispatch it to the boundary requires more skills.

Do send it off for a six requires Sharma level like skills.

 

Hahaha try in ur backyard to hit straight balls vs moving balls 

 this is what happens when ball moves

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[mancalledsting]

Not sure how hitting lollipop bowling for six against lighter white ball on dead tracks takes more skill than solid test innings on rank turner, seamer or bouncy/fast track 

[Khota]

44 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Hahaha try in ur backyard to hit straight balls vs moving balls 

 this is what happens when ball moves

 

 

 

You Sir are a gifted idiot. Let me just leave it at that.

[Ankit_sharma03]

19 minutes ago, Khota said:

You Sir are a gifted idiot. Let me just leave it at that.

Awww i love it when u have nothing but remarks left ...coz showing fact does not exist in ur dictionary 

an idiot thinks every other is one ....n ur sir are proven

Edited January 2, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[Khota]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Awww i love it when u have nothing but remarks left ...coz showing fact does not exist in ur dictionary 

an idiot thinks every other is one ....n ur sir are proven

Is it easy to block a ball or dispatch it to boundary?

Those are the facts that you need to answer before taking cheap shots.

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 minutes ago, Khota said:

Is it easy to block a ball or dispatch it to boundary?

Those are the facts that you need to answer before taking cheap shots.

only if ur in assumption that ball doesnt move

but in test cricket ball moves and its tough to handle moving ball

its not about blocking or hitting, its about handling moving ball.....but how cud u understand without watching it . Find me a cricketer who says t20 is the tougher then test cricket

[Stan AF]

With all the talk about 4 day test matches and its relevance listen here to Justin Langer recounting his debut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcTrJctL-A0