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Indian bowling was more suitable in Australia than NZ where pitch is not that pacy but bouncy.  Here swing bowlers are more potent.  Every single NZ bowler is taking the ball away from the right hander. None of our seamers could do that. 

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15 minutes ago, gattaca said:

We did well in south africa as well. I dont know what @vvvslaxman  is taking about.

I am talking about this line up. Bhuvi can swing better than these guys. Ishant can bowl inswing.  Neither shami nor Bumrah is able to swing the kookaburra ball  Besides in England we use Duke not Kookaburra. This test is an example. Almost all 4 seamers from NZ swung the ball

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There was a time India had mostly swing bowlers.  Zaheer, Nehra, Sreesanth, RP singh., Irfan   THey all won a test overseas with their bowling. Sreesanth in SA, Pathan at Perth, Zaheer/RP n England.

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1 hour ago, aditya19 said:

i remember holding saying bumrah is not suitable for test cricket before that but he was great and got good swing as well

In England, almost everyone gets swing depending on conditions. 

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1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

There was a time India had mostly swing bowlers.  Zaheer, Nehra, Sreesanth, RP singh., Irfan   THey all won a test overseas with their bowling. Sreesanth in SA, Pathan at Perth, Zaheer/RP n England.

Warrier is a good swing bowler, he is more suited to such conditions over Saini who is the squad. Him and Ishant could have run the Kiwis ragged.

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5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Indian bowling was more suitable in Australia than NZ where pitch is not that pacy but bouncy.  Here swing bowlers are more potent.  Every single NZ bowler is taking the ball away from the right hander. None of our seamers could do that. 

swing bowler will be handy in 1st inning but in 2nd innings u need seam bowlers as it gets really flat

Shami, bumrah hasnt bowled well.....thats it . Had they bowled well no one wud have raised the question.

Ishant despite his fifer didnt look 100% to me

and bumrah will take his time post injuries also teams have started to plan against him.

 

Apart from bhuvi i wont have considered any other swing bowler here not even chahar 

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24 minutes ago, adi B said:

Even pandya would have been handy here with his outswinger .

None of the current 3 bowlers have a good outswinger 

yup as a bowler he wud have been handy....plus wud have given a breather to all 2 quick who then wud have knowingly bowled with more steam

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15 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

swing bowler will be handy in 1st inning but in 2nd innings u need seam bowlers as it gets really flat

Shami, bumrah hasnt bowled well.....thats it . Had they bowled well no one wud have raised the question.

Ishant despite his fifer didnt look 100% to me

and bumrah will take his time post injuries also teams have started to plan against him.

 

Apart from bhuvi i wont have considered any other swing bowler here not even chahar 

They were swinging right through the match. All 4 of them. Basically they are far superior to our attack in these conditions.

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They were swinging right through the match. All 4 of them. Basically they are far superior to our attack in these conditions.
You keep repeating the same thing every away series when we lose one match.India will win next test and will outbowl NZ.
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23 hours ago, aditya19 said:

our bowling did well in england

Our bowlers conceded min 100 runs against English tail enders (2-3 batsmen of lower order), in every inning, which was one of the reasons we lost 1-4.   In what way is it considered good?

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6 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Our bowlers conceded min 100 runs against English tail enders (2-3 batsmen of lower order), in every inning, which was one of the reasons we lost 1-4.   In what way is it considered good?

That scoreline is not close as Kohli would want us to believe.

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1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

Our bowlers conceded min 100 runs against English tail enders (2-3 batsmen of lower order), in every inning, which was one of the reasons we lost 1-4.   In what way is it considered good?

agree but that has been a historical problem , in most innings we reduced them to 100/5 and then they had those annoying partnerships

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2 hours ago, CG said:
3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:
They were swinging right through the match. All 4 of them. Basically they are far superior to our attack in these conditions.

You keep repeating the same thing every away series when we lose one match.India will win next test and will outbowl NZ.

Are you going to deny it? Explain why do you think Indian bowling was better here?

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