Clarke Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, Mariyam said: 50k? Where are you reading this? There are only 3500 beds? Didn't they convert the NSCI into one large quarantine area with ~500 beds? Ndtv front page: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-lockdown-migrants-rural-economy-focus-of-nirmala-sitharamans-media-address-today-on-details-of-rs-20-lakh-crore-package-sources-2228717 50k cases includes asymptomatic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Clarke said: Ndtv front page: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-lockdown-migrants-rural-economy-focus-of-nirmala-sitharamans-media-address-today-on-details-of-rs-20-lakh-crore-package-sources-2228717 50k cases includes asymptomatic as well. This is bleak. https://www.ndtv.com/mumbai-news/coronavirus-news-almost-all-3-500-covid-beds-in-mumbai-taken-hospitals-make-big-change-2228653?pfrom=home-topscroll And also confusing. Uddhav Thackeray said he wants to local trains to ply again. Why would he say that if the prognosis is this bad? When they say ventilator do they mean that invasive Iron-lung machine exclusively? Isn't the bi-pap also a ventilator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 ^ even if they want to start local trains, it would be having social distancing measures like they're planning for delhi metro with alternate seats occupied & no one standing. Now that would imply 5-10% of actual capacity. How will they decide who gets in on which day, particularly when it comes to livelihood ? I reckon the definitions are being relaxed for the sake of showing better numbers. They started releasing patients earlier than they used to in the name of recovery. We can only hope that's a sound approach. The same thing might apply to ventilators as well, although a practitioner can comment on effectiveness of one vs the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Maharashtra is looking really bad, epicenter of covid India. https://twitter.com/ani/status/1260945452427390976?s=21 1602 new #COVID19 cases & 44 deaths reported in Maharashtra today, taking the total number of cases to 27,524 & deaths to 1019. Total 6059 patients have been recovered/discharged in the state so far. Number of active cases stands at 20,441 now: Maharashtra Health Department compared to say Karnataka https://twitter.com/dna/status/1260932472390340613?s=21 Karnataka update: 28 new cases Total 987 COVID-19 positive cases have been confirmed in the state, which includes 35 deaths & 460 discharges Karnataka has lesser cases than even Dharavi. This is bad management Dharavi in Mumbai, Asia's largest slum, has recorded over 1,000 cases after 66 new cases on Wednesday, The COVID-19 tally in Dharavi stands at 1028 while the death toll in the area is 40. Edited May 14, 2020 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Dilli is surprisingly quiet. i drove through some very densely populated neighborhoods. Most of the places are closed, and people are complying with lockdown. I just wish they'd remove the illegal buildings alongside some of the main roads....maybe this happens next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Delhi is bad too. A few days ago I said I knew someone who was infected. There might be others around him who are affected. And government has not even declared area a containment zone! Who knows if this guy is even counted in reported case count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kosingh said: Delhi is bad too. A few days ago I said I knew someone who was infected. There might be others around him who are affected. And government has not even declared area a containment zone! Who knows if this guy is even counted in reported case count. How does he know he is infected? Got tested? If he is tested then he must be in counting. Edited May 14, 2020 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: How does he know he is infected? Got tested? If he is tested then he must be in counting. Yes I think he got tested at Max Hospital in Saket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Can’t verify, but if true, this is a sorry state of affairs in Mumbai. Person treated for Typhoid dies, came positive for Corona. https://twitter.com/Nithyaganesh11/status/1260911010707365888?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Can’t verify, but if true, this is a sorry state of affairs in Mumbai. Person treated for Typhoid dies, came positive for Corona. https://twitter.com/Nithyaganesh11/status/1260911010707365888?s=20 There have been other similar stories of people running from hospital to hospital but not being able to get admitted. Concerning if true. Edited May 14, 2020 by kosingh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) @ manny and @coffee_rules Yesterday on Rahul Kanwal's show Rajesh Tope ( Minister of Public Health, Maharashtra) was a guest. He made some interesting points of comparison between rates of Corona spread in Delhi, Mumbai and the other metros. He said that density, is a lot higher in Mumbai, and this is what makes the difference stand alone cases and community spread. In places like Dharavi, where there are communal toilets, it is very difficult to stop spread. He claims his government has set up chemical toilets in some of those areas. Delhi has more hospital beds/1000 people and more Doctors/1000 people. Delhi also had access to better PPE ( I think Swedish, which was the existing pre lockdown stock) as against Mumbai which got the PPE mainly from China. This resulted in a lot of municipality workers, doctors and police men/women getting infected. And these are supposed to be the front line. Later the asymptomatic carriers among these ended up being vectors for the disease. Ofcourse, he is in the government and is going to make it sound like they've tried their best. But these points make some logical sense. PS: That story is true. It has made it to the news channels. It is the 10th (if news channels are to be believed) story of the kind. A cop also lost his life simply because hospitals refused to admit him. This was a fortnight ago. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mumbai-cop-who-was-denied-admission-in-4-civic-hospitals-dies-of-covid-19/story-Xg6fqLi4wqXEqquZ0txmzN.html What is the SoP in such cases? Edited May 14, 2020 by Mariyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3935 cases in a day and 82k overall just 900 behind China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 We know the Mumbai situation is getting bad. But now the western liberal media - forever anti India - is catching on https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/mumbai-lockdown-coronavirus.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Singh bling said: 3935 cases in a day and 82k overall just 900 behind China China had 82k cases in March. You think they stopped having cases after that? Should not even talk about China. China has at least a million cases of not more. Edited May 15, 2020 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Mariyam said: @ manny and @coffee_rules Yesterday on Rahul Kanwal's show Rajesh Tope ( Minister of Public Health, Maharashtra) was a guest. He made some interesting points of comparison between rates of Corona spread in Delhi, Mumbai and the other metros. He said that density, is a lot higher in Mumbai, and this is what makes the difference stand alone cases and community spread. In places like Dharavi, where there are communal toilets, it is very difficult to stop spread. He claims his government has set up chemical toilets in some of those areas. Delhi has more hospital beds/1000 people and more Doctors/1000 people. Delhi also had access to better PPE ( I think Swedish, which was the existing pre lockdown stock) as against Mumbai which got the PPE mainly from China. This resulted in a lot of municipality workers, doctors and police men/women getting infected. And these are supposed to be the front line. Later the asymptomatic carriers among these ended up being vectors for the disease. Ofcourse, he is in the government and is going to make it sound like they've tried their best. But these points make some logical sense. PS: That story is true. It has made it to the news channels. It is the 10th (if news channels are to be believed) story of the kind. A cop also lost his life simply because hospitals refused to admit him. This was a fortnight ago. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mumbai-cop-who-was-denied-admission-in-4-civic-hospitals-dies-of-covid-19/story-Xg6fqLi4wqXEqquZ0txmzN.html What is the SoP in such cases? Dharavi shouldn't exist. The lockdown should prioritize de-population of areas like dharavi. Mumbai in general should be de-populated, it has too many people. 10 million too many. But the migration issue has given state governments an opportunity to negotiate with the centre, making de-population more difficult. Some might take back the migrants, other non-BJP ruled states probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coffee_rules Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Kisi ke baap ka maal hain kya. Yechury is asking for free ration (10 kg per head per household) for 6-8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Latest statewide data tests and positives. All tests are symptom based, national average is 4% https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYHXVecXgAA0aWg?format=jpg&name=large TN has done the max tests and also has big % of positive cases. 300k tested 10k positive, seems like national average. MH is worse 250k tested 27k positive , nearly 10% why are some states like Kar showing such low % 130k tested about 1k positive, less than 1%? punjab 50k tested, 2k positive (4%) KeralA tested 42k 500 odd cases Edited May 16, 2020 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Wankhade becoming quarantine facility really speaks of situation in Mumbai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4800+ cases in 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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