Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) This is how you respond to condescending americans lecturing you on 'human rights' and 'freedom' : Don't forget: EVERTHING THE WESTERNERS SAID ABOUT HONG KONG, THEY'LL SAY ABOUT KASHMIR: Freedom loving people around the world must stand with the rule of law and hold to account the hindu nationalist Bharatiya janata party (BJP), which has flagrantly broken it's promises to the people of Kashmir. >>>>>>> #ICAN'TBREATHE!!! Edited June 2, 2020 by Manny_Pacquiao
Gollum Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 From what I have seen, Dr. Jaishankar is even more savage, long may he roast India's enemies.
PunterLog Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Yep! Too many Indian nationalists are high on their hate towards China and want to cozy up to the US. The west will NEVER be India's friend. They might favor India temporarily to balance China's domination but once India becomes a threat, the west will give us the same treatment that they are giving to China now.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 14 hours ago, PunterLog said: Yep! Too many Indian nationalists are high on their hate towards China and want to cozy up to the US. The west will NEVER be India's friend. They might favor India temporarily to balance China's domination but once India becomes a threat, the west will give us the same treatment that they are giving to China now. I have said the same thing on this forum on many occasions, but the american 'pravasi mazdoor' H1B uncles find any criticism of the west to be objectionable 'sanghi' opinions. Speaking of which, where is @sandeep and uncle @Audiophile They should be here, telling us why amreeka is the moral guardian of the world, and why allying with the west is important for india's future, and of course...why China and russia are TERRORIST nations that cannot be trusted. LOL. Luckily, India is led by people who know better, and will play the US and the china against each other without taking sides.
Deleted_User_1 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) On 6/3/2020 at 4:11 AM, Manny_Pacquiao said: I have said the same thing on this forum on many occasions, but the american 'pravasi mazdoor' H1B uncles find any criticism of the west to be objectionable 'sanghi' opinions. Speaking of which, where is @sandeep and uncle @Audiophile They should be here, telling us why amreeka is the moral guardian of the world, and why allying with the west is important for india's future, and of course...why China and russia are TERRORIST nations that cannot be trusted. LOL. Luckily, India is led by people who know better, and will play the US and the china against each other without taking sides. Get the phuck out bruh! I never said America is the moral guardian of the world. In fact, I despise the fact that America meddles in too many issues around the world instead of solving problems at home. And China IS to blame for starting this pandemic. It is calling spade a spade and there should be repercussions. Do-lund Trump's America is loosing her soul. Don't you see the news? BTW, I ain't no cheap H1B uncle, homie!! I'm a US citizen, phuck y'all H1B curry smelling mothafokas!! Edited June 4, 2020 by Audiophile sandeep 1
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Audiophile said: Get the phuck out bruh! I never said America is the moral guardian of the world. In fact, I despise the fact that America meddles in too many issues around the world instead of solving problems at home. And China IS to blame for starting this pandemic. It is calling spade a spade and there should be repercussions. Do-lund Trump's America is loosing her soul. Don't you see the news? BTW, I ain't no cheap H1B uncle, homie!! I'm a US citizen, phuck y'all H1B curry smelling mothafokas!! ...i'm glad someone here can take a joke... Race riots and institutional inequality IS america's soul, and those features have nothing to do with any political party. And China brought 800 million people out of poverty, you wish India could do the same. BTW, if you're watching the riots on the news... i hope you renewed your carry permit!!!! Here's the american dream for 'asian-americans'
Deleted_User_1 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said: ...i'm glad someone here can take a joke... Race riots and institutional inequality IS america's soul, and those features have nothing to do with any political party. And China brought 800 million people out of poverty, you wish India could do the same. BTW, if you're watching the riots on the news... i hope you renewed your carry permit!!!! Here's the american dream for 'asian-americans' I am not blind enough to see positive attributes of what China has done. No one is denying that. However, my point about COVID-19 still stays. BTW, America has done a lot of wrong around the world meddling in foreign affairs and should be held accountable. Also they have paid some price for it.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Audiophile said: I am not blind enough to see positive attributes of what China has done. No one is denying that. However, my point about COVID-19 still stays. BTW, America has done a lot of wrong around the world meddling in foreign affairs and should be held accountable. Also they have paid some price for it. Don't you think its hypocritical for america to criticize india for violating 'religious freedom' and caste/religious based violence when american society effectively categorizes human beings as 'white', 'black', 'asian', and 'hispanic'....the idea of 'race' is not befitting of a modern, developed society. And this will never change. For example, you'll never see a situation where indians can become 'white' (like the italians or irish did) ---> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/12/opinion/columbus-day-italian-american-racism.html Granted, america is a great place to live if you're wealthy...and i still wouldnt trade my american citizenship for anything. But our sense of exceptionalism makes no sense, and we are in many ways...very third-world. More so now than before.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 Chinese government warns India about trusting the US... Quote "The US has long begun to strategically suppress China and support India and has implemented an Indo-Pacific Strategy in recent years. India has gradually formed an illusion of strategic superiority toward China," it said. "India should not be fooled by the US. Washington is keen on placing a wedge between countries and drawing countries to its own side. But this serves the US' strategic pressure on China, instead of other countries' geopolitical interests," the editorial published on June 5 said. https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world/india-china-border-chinese-state-run-daily-says-india-should-not-be-fooled-by-the-us-5368791.html Indian media has turned completely anti-chinese in recent times. Nothing wrong with that - it's easier to use the chinese as a scapegoat to justify lockdowns and other 'precautionary' measures. It makes for an easy explanation. But i hope indian 'intellectuals' are smart enough to smell the coffee. Any engagement with the US should be done with china and russia on speed dial.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gollum said: LOL...freedom from what??!! never-ending slavery? Pompeo is an embarrassment.
Clarke Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 America didn't have the moral high ground before this happened. There is a large enough body count from its interventions, direct or otherwise. It is the richest and threw money around, hence every country didn't publicly respond to it's posturing. One could easily mock it for decades on the Paris climate agreement despite its emissions even if President Biden joins in come Jan 2021. It's the technological innovations that are America's biggest contributions to the world.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Clarke said: America didn't have the moral high ground before this happened. There is a large enough body count from its interventions, direct or otherwise. It is the richest and threw money around, hence every country didn't publicly respond to it's posturing. One could easily mock it for decades on the Paris climate agreement despite its emissions even if President Biden joins in come Jan 2021. It's the technological innovations that are America's biggest contributions to the world. True, but they're slowly losing their edge there: Quote GENEVA -- China surpassed the U.S. last year to lead the world in international patent applications for the first time, while telecommunications giant Huawei Technologies topped the list of companies for a third straight year, the World Intellectual Property Organization said Tuesday. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/China-overtakes-US-as-leader-in-international-patent-filings Quote The international balance of power in innovation is shifting. When it comes to world-class patents in important cutting-edge technologies, the United States still occupies the leading position in almost every field. But China is catching up fast or has already overtaken the United States in some areas thanks to its much greater dynamic. This is the central finding of our new study on the development of national and regional portfolios of patents in cutting-edge technologies since 2000. https://www.chemeurope.com/en/news/1166581/usa-still-patent-superpower.html If china leads the way in artificial intelligence, then we'll see a very different world. But this [probably] won't be happening in the short to medium-term. Side-note: Europe is quickly becoming irrelevant. They're being manipulated by both the US and china. Where is India in all this? Just a digital colony of the US? That would be a shame... Edited June 6, 2020 by Manny_Pacquiao
diga Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Posting it here for the lack of a thread .. Didn't Pappu wine & dine with the chinese ambassador a few months back ?
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 9, 2020 Author Posted June 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, diga said: Posting it here for the lack of a thread .. Didn't Pappu wine & dine with the chinese ambassador a few months back ? He's frequently met them over the past 5 years. Not a big deal, so does modi, but let's not assume congress actually cares about the country's interests.
PunterLog Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 3:41 PM, Manny_Pacquiao said: I have said the same thing on this forum on many occasions, but the american 'pravasi mazdoor' H1B uncles find any criticism of the west to be objectionable 'sanghi' opinions. Speaking of which, where is @sandeep and uncle @Audiophile They should be here, telling us why amreeka is the moral guardian of the world, and why allying with the west is important for india's future, and of course...why China and russia are TERRORIST nations that cannot be trusted. LOL. Luckily, India is led by people who know better, and will play the US and the china against each other without taking sides. The whole western world sees India as "White man's burden" and are extremely ignorant. If you've ever come across American Christian missionaries in India, you'll understand what i'm talking about. They truly believe that Hindus are "Pagans" and that they are superior. The British have spread this propaganda that India was full of savages to justify their colonial exploits. The American right and Christians have recently been targetting Yoga as a "Demonic" practice that's un-christian and Church bodies have started banning it. Go to any western RW publication and you'll see posters railing against H1B's and spouting racism against India. What India needs to do is to concentrate on strengthening our own capabilities in all sectors instead of blindly allying with the enemy of our enemy. Jimmy Cliff and Sgattick10 2
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, PunterLog said: The whole western world sees India as "White man's burden" and are extremely ignorant. If you've ever come across American Christian missionaries in India, you'll understand what i'm talking about. They truly believe that Hindus are "Pagans" and that they are superior. The British have spread this propaganda that India was full of savages to justify their colonial exploits. The American right and Christians have recently been targetting Yoga as a "Demonic" practice that's un-christian and Church bodies have started banning it. Go to any western RW publication and you'll see posters railing against H1B's and spouting racism against India. What India needs to do is to concentrate on strengthening our own capabilities in all sectors instead of blindly allying with the enemy of our enemy. In the interest of fairness, if india makes it harder for christians to proselytize, then america - as a guardian of puritanical christian values - is well within its rights to reciprocate by calling india a 'demonic' society. This is probably where the world is headed anyway - countries are more inward-looking and trying to limit their interference in other countries. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. That's diplomacy. And in a world where india is more or less the only 'non-abrahamic' civilization, you need to make unusual, transactional relationships.
PunterLog Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said: In the interest of fairness, if india makes it harder for christians to proselytize, then america - as a guardian of puritanical christian values - is well within its rights to reciprocate by calling india a 'demonic' society. This is probably where the world is headed anyway - countries are more inward-looking and trying to limit their interference in other countries. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. That's diplomacy. And in a world where india is more or less the only 'non-abrahamic' civilization, you need to make unusual, transactional relationships. Transactional relationships are fine but some people have delusions of being "Natural" allies with the west. Manny_Pacquiao 1
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 11, 2020 Author Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) China may not be a superpower (yet) but it certainly acts like one. They're now releasing a 'human rights report' critiquing America's handling of the COVID-19 crisis: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1191271.shtml They have had extensive coverage of the riots: https://www.globaltimes.cn//special-coverage/Protests-erupt-over-Floyd's-death.html And article after article of telling Americans and westerners what to think and what to do. Having grown up in a unipolar world where America had the last word on just about everything, i find this fascinating. India is in no position to behave like this, but it's something to learn from. Edited June 11, 2020 by Manny_Pacquiao
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