Cricket Does Not Need Captain

[maniac]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

dhoni , rohit , ganguly all had one quality that computer will never teach them is be instinctive

Computer will never read someone body language or feet movement which dhoni use to read from behind the stumps, A computer cannot gage own team's player confidence like a captain can and that day bhajji confidence was dented once misbah smoked him

 

I know you don’t speak Tamil but the guy in this video along with Ashwin is Prasanna the chief analyst for SA team. See if you can follow the subtitles.

 

I have seen this guy on other videos too, shows you the importance of analysts.

[Sean Bradley]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

there was definitely logic behind that and it wasn’t random. Bhajji got hit for 3 6’s and Misbah is a good player of spin. Even though sir Joginder might only be 10k quicker than Bhajji, on a pitch that helped fast bowlers, he could hope for the ball to just naturally seam and in the end it was the lack of pace that made Misbah mistime the ball. 
 

Dhoni is rated as a captain because he could process logic faster, not everyone can do that and Dhoni has his share of screw ups too because at the end of the day he is human.

 

This is where we need computers and let smart humans process that to their best interpretation.

Dude we have enough computers, bots and analysts already surrounding the Captains & Coach. saying that BOTs should completely take over the on field decision making is a bit too much.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

 

I know you don’t speak Tamil but the guy in this video along with Ashwin is Prasanna the chief analyst for SA team. See if you can follow the subtitles.

 

I have seen this guy on other videos too, shows you the importance of analysts.

 

I have this , im not denying role of analyst....u knw im into matchups but a captain cannot be taken away from game.

U can go with watever plan on ground but things will not always go by plan which is where instinct comes in . Unless u have ATG side like aussies where anyone can captain then u need captain to manage resources .

DC was another example where Ponting tried to dictate from Dressing room and it had its end where as in MI n CSK its clear captain is boss on field and guys like pollard, faf are there to help captains

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Sean Bradley said:

Dude we have enough computers, bots and analysts already surrounding the Captains & Coach. saying that BOTs should completely take over the on field decision making is a bit too much.

 

exactly every team has line of analyst today yet blunder after blunder, infact being less flexible has been one of modern problem of captaincy 

[Real McCoy]

The key behind England's success is the change of thinking and attacking batting style that they have adopted to be in line with the innovation in bat manufacturing and smaller grounds. England had this AI based onfield assistance for a long time. Remember when they failed in 2015, the coach said we have to look at our data It was funny to hear that. They fired him and renovated their team but this has been going on for sometime. Andy Flower used it as early as 2011 in our 0-4 series. So its not the technology that is calling the shots and captain is someone who goes for the toss and holds press conferences. Captaincy is as human as the sport unless you want actual robots to play the game. If that occurs, count me out as a sports fan.

[Tattieboy]

Great idea !! Would have saved me a lot of grief of " why am I not bowling and he is " ... Getting the silent treatment from bowlers and seeing a guy kicking the ground at fine leg . 

Now captains can just point at a lap top and say blame him lol

[Khota]

54 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

dhoni , rohit , ganguly all had one quality that computer will never teach them is be instinctive

Computer will never read someone body language or feet movement which dhoni use to read from behind the stumps, A computer cannot gage own team's player confidence like a captain can and that day bhajji confidence was dented once misbah smoked him

That happens when you use the old 6502 processors. Start using PIC32's and they will do all that.

[Khota]

59 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Wrong , it was dhoni who saw misbah from early days the nairobi series and he knew misbah plays spin well but most importantly reason was bhajji after that whacking looked hasseled so why to give over to someone who already has succumed under the pressure 

That was not an earth shaking call. Misbah played stupid and cute. I bet Misbah every night wakes up and replays that shot.

[putrevus]

Captain is the most important man on the field.Captain should always trust his instincts over everything. It does not mean he should not look for edge , sabermetrics has been in baseball for over two decades. But there also Manager's instinct is key  and recently an idiot manager  who depended more on sabermetics than baseball instincts cost Tampa Word series.

[Ankit_sharma03]

20 minutes ago, Khota said:

That was not an earth shaking call. Misbah played stupid and cute. I bet Misbah every night wakes up and replays that shot.

 

no it wasnt but it was a brave which many captain wont....kohli i bet wont 

[aditya19]

after some time we will say cricket does not need humans.. ai ko hi khila lo

[Ankit_sharma03]

23 minutes ago, Khota said:

That happens when you use the old 6502 processors. Start using PIC32's and they will do all that.

 

u really think that those guys sitting in dugout are playing video games on their laptops or watching porn

[maniac]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

u really think that those guys sitting in dugout are playing video games on their laptops or watching porn

they are passing on information to the captain who implements  it. So what exactly is the role of a captain? A senior guy who implements it? That’s fine. A namesake leader is ok, however you don’t need captain to make all decisions, there are people smarter (iq wise)

and computers (efficiency and accuracy) wise doing his job for him. 
 

Sure GPS will ask you to take a left turn into the river at times or drive up a building like those motorcycle stunt men, that’s when you need to use your brains. You don’t need a specialist captain for that, anyone with brains can do that.

[maniac]

@Ankit_sharma03 let us say analyst says Bumrah should bowl a yorker, someone like
Dhoni or Rohit asks him to bowl a knuckle ball but Bumrah feels his best chance to get the batsman out is a short ball. That’s his implementation at the end of the day but he has data and options, he wishes to

Implement them or not is up to him.

 

However the option available to him is his own  instinct, a computer analysis and a senior player’s experience.

 

Don’t really a need a captain for this 

[Khota]

33 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

u really think that those guys sitting in dugout are playing video games on their laptops or watching porn

 

 

[Khota]

26 minutes ago, maniac said:

they are passing on information to the captain who implements  it. So what exactly is the role of a captain? A senior guy who implements it? That’s fine. A namesake leader is ok, however you don’t need captain to make all decisions, there are people smarter (iq wise)

and computers (efficiency and accuracy) wise doing his job for him. 
 

Sure GPS will ask you to take a left turn into the river at times or drive up a building like those motorcycle stunt men, that’s when you need to use your brains. You don’t need a specialist captain for that, anyone with brains can do that.

And that exactly is the point of this thread. You can have revolving captains instead of fixed one like Kohli as long as they process information.

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 minutes ago, maniac said:

@Ankit_sharma03 let us say analyst says Bumrah should bowl a yorker, someone like
Dhoni or Rohit asks him to bowl a knuckle ball but Bumrah feels his best chance to get the batsman out is a short ball. That’s his implementation at the end of the day but he has data and options, he wishes to

Implement them or not is up to him.

 

However the option available to him is his own  instinct, a computer analysis and a senior player’s experience.

 

Don’t really a need a captain for this 

 

u nyways dont need tp captain someone like bumrah, malinga, Zak , mcgrath at their peaks but need to when they are young. Also its just not about that 1 or 10 overs

its about bowling changes, diff fields , surprise, use of part timers .

Ganguly use to use yuvi, sehwag, sachin on pure instinct gaging who ll work on that day particularly well

[Khota]

28 minutes ago, maniac said:

they are passing on information to the captain who implements  it. So what exactly is the role of a captain? A senior guy who implements it? That’s fine. A namesake leader is ok, however you don’t need captain to make all decisions, there are people smarter (iq wise)

and computers (efficiency and accuracy) wise doing his job for him. 
 

Sure GPS will ask you to take a left turn into the river at times or drive up a building like those motorcycle stunt men, that’s when you need to use your brains. You don’t need a specialist captain for that, anyone with brains can do that.

 

This man needs to watch an NFL game. There are 10 coaches and analysts tied to headphone making decision and passing it on to the team. One man cannot do that.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

 

 

ofcourse he is the only one coach in world and only person in the dressing room

[Khota]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

u nyways dont need tp captain someone like bumrah, malinga, Zak , mcgrath at their peaks but need to when they are young. Also its just not about that 1 or 10 overs

its about bowling changes, diff fields , surprise, use of part timers .

Ganguly use to use yuvi, sehwag, sachin on pure instinct gaging who ll work on that day particularly well

Educated decisions are always better than instincts.

 

Sometimes my instincts are to slap the shyt out silly posters but then my brain processes information and reminds me it is not their fault. They are just stupid.

Guys have a nice day.