maniac Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Glory to india said: What garbage They did not need to go in to coalition with anti india pro pakistan terrorist groups for 3 years to do president rule lol When did presidents rule was out of coalition. They could do residents rule at any point. Wake up, he not a god. You can criticism him, go on a little ngeative, You wont go to hell honest lol Quick trivia. Last person responsible to create the special status for Kashmir Last person to resolve it partly at least pertaining to Indian side. you need to answer both to have that Eureka moment raki05 1
G_B_ Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: I follow a lot of KP handles, they were all miffed with BJP for making an alliance with PDP, it was a hung parliament even before the alliance, they didn't cause the hung parliament. With the alliance, the hung assembly was avoided and re-election was avoided. You mean, the alliance delayed any re-grouping and helped the Prez Rule imposed later to abrogate A-370? Kp are the biggest twats around. Bjp core votes are Dogra and other castes. Kps will be miffed with anything. Re hung parliament, yes i should have chosen my words better. See bjp knew if they swept Jammu it would be hung. Pdp and Nc would not easily ally. They also propped up Sajjid lone to ensure division of votes in Kashmir. Even now they are propping Apni party. To pass 370 they needed to keep an eye on the Rs numbers. Bjp rs numbers steadily rose to a point where they thought they could push their agenda. They used the death of Mufti sr to get out of alliance at just the right time. Won the Ls election. Used the consent of the guv with assembly suspended. coffee_rules and Lone Wolf 2
G_B_ Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 So several things needed to happen A) presidents rule in jnk B) Mandate in Ls C) Enough numbers in Rs, this includes friendly parties. They also pulled the trigger when A) Trump was president, no direct diplomatic fallout. B) American Troops were not pulled out of Afghanistan. They feared terrorists being shifted from Afghanistan to Kashmir. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: Kp are the biggest twats around. Bjp core votes are Dogra and other castes. Kps will be miffed with anything. Re hung parliament, yes i should have chosen my words better. See bjp knew if they swept Jammu it would be hung. Pdp and Nc would not easily ally. They also propped up Sajjid lone to ensure division of votes in Kashmir. Even now they are propping Apni party. To pass 370 they needed to keep an eye on the Rs numbers. Bjp rs numbers steadily rose to a point where they thought they could push their agenda. They used the death of Mufti sr to get out of alliance at just the right time. Won the Ls election. Used the consent of the guv with assembly suspended. Agree with all except about Kps. They have been wronged all through history, they have gone through a lot.
Vilander Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Glory to india said: Why are BJP fanatics and indian patriots not disgusted by this dark day in Indian history. This was one of most shameful episodes in indian history. A right wing hindutwa party elected to keep india united and put hindus first. Joined up with Kashmiri terrorists in coalition just to be in power and make money! They stayed together for 3 years! Awful. Shocking Am sure BJP fans will join me in condemnation to ensure Modi PBUH and Shah never betray India like this again. Maybe we can do a petition? Although this might be construed as a tool kit and seen as attempt to over throw India, so better not. does not matter. Why should it lol. India is a democracy, and parties are allowed to ally in election. Its legal. what is your point ?
urbestfriend Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 I give my vote to Modi and Shah only for abrogation of 370. Yes, it is still pending in the court and situation is also not completely stabilised. But I am sure no other government would've dared to remove this, and only Modi and Shah has dared to do that..Nobody wanted to change status quo. It has the potential to change the kashmir problem once for all, provided they take care of instigators like Mufti and Abdullahs. I raki05 1
Lone Wolf Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 15 hours ago, G_B_ said: Kp are the biggest twats around. Bjp core votes are Dogra and other castes. Kps will be miffed with anything. Re hung parliament, yes i should have chosen my words better. See bjp knew if they swept Jammu it would be hung. Pdp and Nc would not easily ally. They also propped up Sajjid lone to ensure division of votes in Kashmir. Even now they are propping Apni party. To pass 370 they needed to keep an eye on the Rs numbers. Bjp rs numbers steadily rose to a point where they thought they could push their agenda. They used the death of Mufti sr to get out of alliance at just the right time. Won the Ls election. Used the consent of the guv with assembly suspended. KP's are indeed biggest ungrateful pricks around.. Even if you give them state of the art protection they'd never go to Kashmir just coz they've enjoyed benefits especially relief funds, jobs & everything in Jammu region.. The ones assigned govt. Quarters enjoy absolutely everything. They've got business & everything. Dogras hate them with a passion just coz of their constant whining & entitled attitude. Bhaderwahis & Dogras & other hill people get along pretty well compared to Kashmiris including Pandits. The original vote bank of BJP is dogras & Hindus of Kishtwar & doda region who are die hard supporters.. The alliance with PDP did really reduce the goodwill among their supporters & Normal Singh was most hated person in the state coz the stories of his legendary corruptions that will make Kejriwal look like a nobody &, his slave attitude towards muftis. NIA Kashmir incident angered Jammu public to no end & people were calling for Nirmal Singh's head. Overall they chose the right time to break off & it was all well played in The end. G_B_ 1
G_B_ Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 @Lone Wolf its well known kps are hard to get on with. Community suffers from Stockholm syndrome. Eventually Jammu will be its own state with Dogra leadership Lone Wolf 1
coffee_rules Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, G_B_ said: @Lone Wolf its well known kps are hard to get on with. Community suffers from Stockholm syndrome. Eventually Jammu will be its own state with Dogra leadership Dogras were never displaced. Once the insurgency drives dogras out, then let’s see who is ungrateful. Very easy to pick on Kps, they were the last sanatanis to hold on to our land. Now Kashmir is all gone.
raki05 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 11:44 PM, Glory to india said: Well at least you admitted he made a mistake. Phew hope for you yet. Although second paragraph reverted to norm lol You should also praise and admit how he enforce 370 the golden day in indian history or are you just busy picking up things like other librandu ,cong, and leftist doing on SM or through their toolkits.
Clarke Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Medically speaking, if you are very tribal & have a strong urge for entitlement among ur community people much over and above others, you are at high risk of being woke when u don't get what u want. Symptoms can include suddenly discovering left oriented views about human rights, free speech, ny times, washington post, godi media, fascists, neo-nazis, internet activism etc. It is normal to ignore facts about new/old laws, existing handouts, malpractices & environmental vandalism especially since sitting in Canada/UK one is not exposed on either of these. In order to recover from the recent wokeness, the underlying tribalism, narcissism, superiority complex & entitlement culture will have to be addressed. Currently there is no direct cure available, although introspection & collaboration are known to significantly reduce symptoms. Cricketics, urbestfriend, coffee_rules and 2 others 2 2 1
raki05 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 Its laughable that free speech and democracy are only meant for these rioters and protesters where as for other tax payers who does their job quietly and helps in nation building are either from godi media or bhakt or intolerant. Indeed this country has become intolerant or else how do you get away with instigating riots , taking hostage national capital as per their whim and wishes, speaking garbage against majority followed religion even killing and lynching them on the name of religion. coffee_rules 1
kepler37b Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 11:41 PM, Glory to india said: Why are BJP fanatics and indian patriots not disgusted by this dark day in Indian history. This was one of most shameful episodes in indian history. A right wing hindutwa party elected to keep india united and put hindus first. Joined up with Kashmiri terrorists in coalition just to be in power and make money! They stayed together for 3 years! Awful. Shocking Am sure BJP fans will join me in condemnation to ensure Modi PBUH and Shah never betray India like this again. Maybe we can do a petition? Although this might be construed as a tool kit and seen as attempt to over throw India, so better not. Are you criticizing BJP based on this? OR have you made up your mind and using this event for the emotional outburst?
Lone Wolf Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Dogras were never displaced. Once the insurgency drives dogras out, then let’s see who is ungrateful. Very easy to pick on Kps, they were the last sanatanis to hold on to our land. Now Kashmir is all gone. I am not sure you heard about the insurgency in Kishtwar... Read General GD bakshi's book on it... It was as much as big as Kashmir insurgency. Similar tactics & everything. The formation of Village defence committee (VDC) took place under GD bakshi where young Hindu village boys were trained to hold arms & everything & they wiped the floor with Islamists.. That's why GD Bakshi is probably most loved individual in J&K... Coz he was the one who gave the idea despite both & congis & Vajpayee doing appeasement to no end. Now 20℅ Hindus in Kishtwar & doda are feared due to this... Sanatanis are still standing there.. Despite all the years of pussy governments. Edited February 18, 2021 by Lone Wolf
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