India takes back number one test ranking

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, Adamant said:

This team has three elite cricketers:

1.Kohli

2.Bumrah

3.Pant

 

Ashwin

Jadeja

Shami

 Are there and there abouts. 

 

Its a very good side. Yes weaker in batting than the previous era great sides 

[ShoonyaSifar]

9 minutes ago, sandeep said:

You have a major confidence issue.

 

Please go check Ravi Jadeja's stats in test cricket in last 4-5 years.  Or his career stats.  He is a bonafide superstar allrounder in test cricket.  Ravi Ashwin can retire today and be in the conversation for best offspinner ever to play test cricket.  If you don't think these 2 are  "elite" then that's your problem.  

 

Ishant's stats over the last 4 years are all-world.  If Ishant, Bumrah and Shami play decent amount of cricket for a couple of more years, their stats will reflect how "elite" they are.  

 

And the ceiling on the likes of Rishabh, Washington, Gill/Shaw is quite high.  I would say that 2 out of these 4 are going to dominate world cricket for a decade.  

 

You need to reset your outlook.

You are talking to a Kohli cheerleader. For them, Indian cricket begins and ends at Kohli. Everyone else is dispensable.

 

Ever since the Aus series, which exposed hollowness of Kohli's leadership, they have sunk to even lower depths. Someday calling Gill as useless, some other day targetting Sundar or Siraj. Rahane and Pujara obviously remain their no. 1 targets

[Vijy]

26 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

You are talking to a Kohli cheerleader. For them, Indian cricket begins and ends at Kohli. Everyone else is dispensable.

 

Ever since the Aus series, which exposed hollowness of Kohli's leadership, they have sunk to even lower depths. Someday calling Gill as useless, some other day targetting Sundar or Siraj. Rahane and Pujara obviously remain their no. 1 targets

don't forget how rat targeted pant repeatedly.

[BacktoCricaddict]

India wins inaugural WTC regular season test championship.  As a fan of big-time college athletics in the US, I compare it to a regular season "conference championship," which is an actual award that is recognized by the governing boards.  It rewards the most consistently good team over the entire season, regardless of the result of the playoffs that follow the regular season (often the regular season winner does not win the playoff championship, because another team might get hot at just the right time).    

 

Over the first 3-year WTC season, India has proven to be the most consistent and dominant team.  But for a single series blip against the Kiwis, it has been a clinical march towards the top.  Anything can happen in the 1-off match that is the WTC final and, while that is extremely important, this team must be unconditionally lauded for its 3-year run of success.  Whether it is due to, or in spite of, the coaching and captaincy is for each one to decide, but the spirit and heart shown by this team as it made this march is undeniable.  

Edited March 7, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[putrevus]

Pant was targeted rightly so by TM , they gave him the WK role in all formats .


Pant now is WK for just test team , he doesn’t have have spot in shorter formats.


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[Adamant]

35 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pant was targeted rightly so by TM , they gave him the WK role in all formats .


Pant now is WK for just test team , he doesn’t have have spot in shorter formats.


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He will return to LO cricket. 

He is Too talented to not succeed. 

[New guy]

37 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pant was targeted rightly so by TM , they gave him the WK role in all formats .


Pant now is WK for just test team , he doesn’t have have spot in shorter formats.


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How was he rightly targeted, it just destroyed his confidence when many seniors did worse than him and were not targetted

[Adamant]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

You have a major confidence issue.

 

Please go check Ravi Jadeja's stats in test cricket in last 4-5 years.  Or his career stats.  He is a bonafide superstar allrounder in test cricket.  Ravi Ashwin can retire today and be in the conversation for best offspinner ever to play test cricket.  If you don't think these 2 are  "elite" then that's your problem.  

 

Ishant's stats over the last 4 years are all-world.  If Ishant, Bumrah and Shami play decent amount of cricket for a couple of more years, their stats will reflect how "elite" they are.  

 

And the ceiling on the likes of Rishabh, Washington, Gill/Shaw is quite high.  I would say that 2 out of these 4 are going to dominate world cricket for a decade.  

 

You need to reset your outlook.

Ashwin and Jaddu slipped out of my mind, don't know how. 

[Adamant]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

How was he rightly targeted, it just destroyed his confidence when many seniors did worse than him and were not targetted

Ok when was he targeted? 

[putrevus]

8 minutes ago, Adamant said:

He will return to LO cricket. 

He is Too talented to not succeed. 

He is young and he has ability so he will return.But as of now Rahul is the keeper and Rahul adds so much balance to the team.If Pant comes in , then that balance goes away.

Edited March 7, 2021 by putrevus

[putrevus]

8 minutes ago, New guy said:

How was he rightly targeted, it just destroyed his confidence when many seniors did worse than him and were not targetted

You are looking it in a wrong way.They targetted him becuase they wanted to get best out of him as anyone who sees him knows how talented batsman he was two years ago.He needed to improve his fitness and keeping which he did very well.

Edited March 7, 2021 by putrevus

[Adamant]

2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

You are talking to a Kohli cheerleader. For them, Indian cricket begins and ends at Kohli. Everyone else is dispensable.

 

Ever since the Aus series, which exposed hollowness of Kohli's leadership, they have sunk to even lower depths. Someday calling Gill as useless, some other day targetting Sundar or Siraj. Rahane and Pujara obviously remain their no. 1 targets

Oh bhai Kohli has got nothing to do with this. 

I was refuting the point that this team can match the GOAT teams, if i was 'cheerleading' for Kohli, i would have agreed to the point raised by putrevus.

 

Secondly ask any neutral fan in this whole damn world, even imagining that this team can match Aussies of the 2000s is absolute madness. LOL

 

That team had a fear factor a daunting presence , i would love it if India some day match them, but currently with this set of cricketers India won't come anywhere near them. 

I will consider this team an ATG team if they manage to win finals or draw the series in england but GOAT is just too far fetched. 

 

Imagine aus of 2000s facing nz in a test  final at lords, lol. Not a single soul in this world would have placed nz as favourites but in case of India even Indian fans are calling nz as favourites. 

This explains the huge difference between the two teams. 

 

 

[putrevus]

10 hours ago, Adamant said:

Even if we get to 144 this won't be regarded as the best team in history. 

Have a look at wi 80s and aus 2000 even Sa 2010s they were filled with god gifted cricketers, talent and ability all around. 

This team has three elite cricketers:

1.Kohli

2.Bumrah

3.Pant

Now compare this to aus

Hayden

Ponting

Gilchrist

Mcgrath 

Waugh

Warne

Martyn(definitely pure talent) 

Clarke

 

This is basically a team of limited ability getting the best out of what they have. 

See when you get to 145, it means you have won most of the away series too. To win away series you need serious talent also. getting to 145 is no mean feat and if this Indian team does that then it should be regarded as one of the best teams.

[New guy]

26 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You are looking it in a wrong way.They targetted him becuase they wanted to get best out of him as anyone who sees him knows how talented batsman he was two years ago.He needed to improve his fitness and keeping which he did very well.

Studies after studies have shown encouragement works and criticism for youngsters doesn't.it destroys their confidence and most player never recover 

 

Pant succeeded DESPITE them, not because of them 

[rollingstoned]

18 minutes ago, New guy said:

Studies after studies have shown encouragement works and criticism for youngsters doesn't.it destroys their confidence and most player never recover 

 

Pant succeeded DESPITE them, not because of them 

Not that i agree in pant's case because it feels like shastri and kohli are being opportunistic and trying to make it look like their tough love is what made pant into what he is now which is bollox, but both approaches are needed depending on the personality you're dealing with.