Rohit-Dhawan-LK-Kohli-Iyer ODI line-up backfitted into T20 (even when IPL career strike rates are poor)

[chewy]

Only two out of Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli can be in the World Cup T20 squad

Can't have both Iyer and Rahul in the XI, especially if Rahul also wants to 'anchor'.

 

I am not sure what juice the selectors are drinking but India T20 team ain't going to post anything near 180 batting first when filled with these slow potatoes: 

IPL Career Strike rates:

Rohit - 131

Dhawan - 127

Kohli - 131

Iyer - 126

Rahul - 136

 

I am not sure in what world Iyer makes it into the starting XI of India T20 

 

As a benchmark, India's best T20 player, Suresh Raina, had an IPL career strike rate of 137! at just under 200 games!

Most of England's current first choice batsmen play in the IPL and all of them have SR around or above 140, just shows how mediocre are India's established 'stars' at T20 batting, even in IPL. 

 

If we carry on with this sub par T20 players, expect India being outsmacked by England, West Indies, NZ and Australia. 

 

Rohit wants 15 overs before switching to forever waiting Hulk mode, Dhawan wants 15 overs before he explodes, Kohli wants 15 overs running out 1 or 2 of his partners on the way before striking at 200. And now Lokesh has joined this famous 'anchor'club.

[zen]

  ... also Ind likely to be 50/3 in a knockout game (if it makes it with such a top 5) 

[Sandeep99]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

  ... also Ind likely to be 50/3 in a knockout game (if it makes it with such a top 5) 

More like 5/3

[chewy]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

  ... also Ind likely to be 50/3 in a knockout game (if it makes it with such a top 5) 

 

2 of the 3 matches India were still in their 20s at the end of power play , in 2nd consecutive match, India played out a maiden in the power play!!

This despite going in with a long batting line-up.

The power Dhawan, Rohit and Kohli - out of their depth in T20 internationals.

 

Whilst England were comfortable cruising past 40 in all matches even with horribly out of form Jason Roy (and he can't play spin for sh!t).

[chewy]

9 minutes ago, zen said:

  ... also Ind likely to be 50/3 in a knockout game (if it makes it with such a top 5) 

50/3 would be a miracle with these batsmen and herculean effort, like Indian commies keep saying, Indian openers need  to consolidate for 15 overs and explode last 5 overs

[zen]

2 minutes ago, chewy said:

50/3 would be a miracle with these batsmen and herculean effort, like Indian commies keep saying, Indian openers need  to consolidate for 15 overs and explode last 5 overs

 

Most batsmen can explode in the last 5 overs after getting in the first 15 (it is just that the team would have lost the initiative in the first 15 to make much of the last 5 - except maybe a "fighting" total on board) ... When I listen to Indian commentators, at times, I feel like banning sports in Ind

Edited March 16, 2021 by zen

[Ankit_sharma03]

why wud u put their IPL s/r when they have played enough international cricket

[zen]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

why wud u put their IPL s/r when they have played enough international cricket

 

I think because most people put IPL above such bilaterals (except v major teams, where a bilateral could have merit) and just below world events

Edited March 16, 2021 by zen

[chewy]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

why wud u put their IPL s/r when they have played enough international cricket

 

good barometer, because each batsmen are facing the same quality and teams and same for their overseas counterparts. 

 

I feel many of these bi-lateral T20 internationals not as competitive and sometimes are after thought after a long Test or ODI series.

Especially overseas tour where India T20 and ODI squad are often identical.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, zen said:

 

I think because most people put IPL above such bilaterals and just below world events

 

In ipl against every team ull get some weak domestic bowlers so no point . IPL made dhawan, rayudu n a dhoni on decline look good

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, chewy said:

 

good barometer, because each batsmen are facing the same quality and teams and same for their overseas counterparts. 

 

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

In ipl against every team ull get some weak domestic bowlers so no point . IPL made dhawan, rayudu n a dhoni on decline look good

 

not the right criteria therefore 

[zen]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

In ipl against every team ull get some weak domestic bowlers so no point . IPL made dhawan, rayudu n a dhoni on decline look good

 

It is a major tournament esp. for Ind cricket ... only bilaterals v major teams may hold equal weight 

 

Usually world T20 > IPL =/> bilateral v major teams > bilaterals v minor teams 

[chewy]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

In ipl against every team ull get some weak domestic bowlers so no point . IPL made dhawan, rayudu n a dhoni on decline look good

but doesn't that apply to all batsmen, that all batsmen will get opportunity to face weak domestic bowler. And yet likes of Warner and Butler still outperform Rohit, Kohli and Dhawan as openers.  

[zen]

4 minutes ago, chewy said:

but doesn't that apply to all batsmen, that all batsmen will get opportunity to face weak domestic bowler. And yet likes of Warner and Butler still outperform Rohit, Kohli and Dhawan as openers.  

 

Yep, IPL is like a world event where players face multiple teams and challenges (including playing v top players familiar with conditions) unlike bilaterals where you play against same set of players (many unfamiliar with conditions relatively) 

Edited March 16, 2021 by zen

[putrevus]

17 hours ago, chewy said:

but doesn't that apply to all batsmen, that all batsmen will get opportunity to face weak domestic bowler. And yet likes of Warner and Butler still outperform Rohit, Kohli and Dhawan as openers.  

So how many Indian openers are in IPL.How many Indians are playing at number3.What are their SRs vs SRs of players from other countries who are being paid to become IPL openers.

[Moochad]

agree 100%, max 2 of them should play. T20 side needs a youth movement

[sage]

On 3/16/2021 at 5:59 PM, chewy said:

 

2 of the 3 matches India were still in their 20s at the end of power play , in 2nd consecutive match, India played out a maiden in the power play!!

This despite going in with a long batting line-up.

The power Dhawan, Rohit and Kohli - out of their depth in T20 internationals.

 

Whilst England were comfortable cruising past 40 in all matches even with horribly out of form Jason Roy (and he can't play spin for sh!t).

Forget 40 I think they hit 50 every match