Vilander Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, dilliboy said: Might be some cases due to Kumbh returness... Greater point is complete incompetence and lack of accountability in the centre for recognizing the imminent danger and continue with these gatherings This aspect is lost, anyone that points this out will be called a fake secular or pakistani. Any question on central govts accountability will be viewed with suspicion here by some. dilliboy, Lord, Ankit_sharma03 and 1 other 1 3
Vilander Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 Guys where was thrid fourth vaccine candidate, agreement on local production? Is sii and bharat only vaccine production cap in India?? Really where are the others. Where are emergency ventilators, where are emergency oxygen production ramp ups?? Its an utter failure from Gov in center and states. People should call these scum out across political lines, else this is happen again in future. beetle 1
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: What opposing views? Is it your view that there is no second wave in India? The point of the big shutdown is to not just to stop the spread of the virus but to prepare the infrastructure to handle the influx once the shutdown ended. It was criminal negligence on the part of state & central governments which asked people to hunker down affecting their livelihoods while doing zilch in terms of health infrastructure. In this hour of crisis, all partisan political games are being played, taking credit of early warnings. All this in hindsight and finger pointing. The need is to manage active cases, reduce the new cases and handle deaths. All I see opposition doing is increase panic, amplify oxygen and medical emergencies with fake news and funeral death porn by journalists. Some of the same people who claimed to have warned the government, had tweets quite contrary to the sayings now. The team SUTRA model was advising the government, back in March, this guy part of the team had these to say. Now, other members of this team and blowing hot they advised governments otherwise. The central government has letters published from the principal Home secretary to all state secretaries to take up Covid guidelines at priority. None of these were followed. https://m.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/union-home-secretary-asks-states-to-strictly-adhere-to-covid-norms-218218 Firstly, journalists raise panic, spread fake narratives , after the second wave started. Government instead of prioritizing relief is half the time doing PR and image building because of scheduled elections. Instead of pointing fingers, the whole country should work towards handling a disaster. dial_100 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Instead of pointing fingers, the whole country should work towards handling a disaster. TBH whole country is working together n helpinh each other so dnt use that line. Govt be it state or centre shud be held accountable . Its cente n state playing - teri galti, teri galti . They come for ur votes now ask them question . U dnt ask them questions and next time it ll get worse. Its comes to a point that the courts have started bashing them. Time media also do their job and show real stories. This has costed lives...not just becoz of corona but lack of oxygen n medical facility so make them accountable. Edited May 1, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Vilander and Lord 1 1
kepler37b Posted May 1, 2021 Author Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-gets-first-consignment-of-sputnik-v-vaccine-from-russia/article34458233.ece Sputnik Vaccine arrives in India. Edited May 1, 2021 by kepler37b
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 Patient after patient....it wud be relentless for docters , nurses, ward boys. And then the pain of not being able to save someone due to lack of oxygen n beds. Net is filled with videos of docters sharing their misery. Will try to make a thread on it. BacktoCricaddict and Vilander 2
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: TBH whole country is working together n helpinh each other so dnt use that line. Govt be it state or centre shud be held accountable . Its cente n state playing - teri galti, teri galti . They come for ur votes now ask them question . U dnt ask them questions and next time it ll get worse. Its comes to a point that the courts have started bashing them. Time media also do their job and show real stories. This has costed lives...not just becoz of corona but lack of oxygen n medical facility so make them accountable. All this tu tu main main shows it is a case of lack of health infrastructure , especially for disasters. System hi kharab hain. Hospitals should be regulated to have a local oxygen plant, bureaucracy is the issue. Too many babus who are mediocre. These blame games will get resolved in the next election. Population control has to be critical too. Accountability doesn’t mean firing the fall guy. Distribution of oxygen is the first hurdle. Production has been ramped up with so many industries stepping up. Foreign aid too. Not sure. Why Hospitals don’t raise SOS until the last two hours left? Concentrators have been ordered and provided. State and hospitals should ensure at least concentrators when O2 doesn’t reach them. 8 lives list in Delhi today. These people responsible don’t value 8 lifetimes worth of living moments. Really sad.
Vilander Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: All this in hindsight and finger pointing Wtf are you talking about man. How would you react if trump was still in charge and vaccine rollout was only 5 pc in us and daily infections were touching 200k lol in India is more than 400k today. Disgusting.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Production has been ramped up with so many industries stepping up. Foreign aid too. Same can be asked with govt- now is a reaction why wasnt their a anticipation. Coz they didnt take 2nd wave srsly. Scientist warned, other countries faced it. On the contrary amit shah , kejriwal , yogi publicaly claimed no shortage of oxygen when its other wise. Kerala did antcipate...to which u didnt wanted to accept. Anticipation if the key... Hospital has been raising every day....online is filled with it. If top level is not serious ....then it just flows and ofcourse casual ppl but they are dying in the end. The question starts from top till bottom ...each n everyone. Dnt treat them as ur relatives... questions all. coffee_rules 1
Vilander Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 54 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: In this hour of crisis, all partisan political games are being played, taking credit of early warnings. All this in hindsight and finger pointing. The need is to manage active cases, reduce the new cases and handle deaths. All I see opposition doing is increase panic, amplify oxygen and medical emergencies with fake news and funeral death porn by journalists. Some of the same people who claimed to have warned the government, had tweets quite contrary to the sayings now. The team SUTRA model was advising the government, back in March, this guy part of the team had these to say. Now, other members of this team and blowing hot they advised governments otherwise. The central government has letters published from the principal Home secretary to all state secretaries to take up Covid guidelines at priority. None of these were followed. https://m.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/union-home-secretary-asks-states-to-strictly-adhere-to-covid-norms-218218 Firstly, journalists raise panic, spread fake narratives , after the second wave started. Government instead of prioritizing relief is half the time doing PR and image building because of scheduled elections. Instead of pointing fingers, the whole country should work towards handling a disaster. What did Central govt do to rampup vaccine production, what did they do to ramp up oxygen supply. Why Modi claimed credit for first wave but second wave is state responsibility? We won't have answers to these.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: System hi kharab hain. System ajkal acha word chala hua to save some arses. Lord 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: What did Central govt do to rampup vaccine production, what did they do to ramp up oxygen supply. Why Modi claimed credit for first wave but second wave is state responsibility? We won't have answers to these. India is running out of oxygen, Covid-19 patients are dying – because the government wasted time It took eight months to invite bids for over 150 oxygen generation plants costing just Rs 200 crore. Six months later, most still aren’t up and running. Link - https://scroll.in/article/992537/india-is-running-out-of-oxygen-covid-19-patients-are-dying-because-the-government-wasted-time Despite COVID-19 crisis at home, India doubled oxygen exports in FY21 Link - https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/india-doubled-oxygen-exports-to-9301-mt-in-apr-jan-fy21-earned-rs-89-crore/story/437140.html Vilander 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: System hi kharab hain. At start of video- Amit shah says their isnt shortage of oxygen and we ll provide more in day or two- 19 april date . Do you not consider him as part of system
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: Wtf are you talking about man. How would you react if trump was still in charge and vaccine rollout was only 5 pc in us and daily infections were touching 200k lol in India is more than 400k today. Disgusting. India is vaccinating at a daily rate of 3 million. That is almost the population of NZ Finger pointing is about providing early warnings. Never mind , selective cherry picking
Vilander Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: India is vaccinating at a daily rate of 3 million. That is almost the population of NZ Finger pointing is about providing early warnings. Never mind , selective cherry picking Dude how come US controlled the spread and India did not. Its not just about resources, its also about planning. India should have aggressively supported covaxin the one vaccine for which India has IP. They should have mobile vaccination drives in hot spots,. Lockdowns on any commercial activity that can be done remotely. More can be and should be done.
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Vilander said: What did Central govt do to rampup vaccine production, what did they do to ramp up oxygen supply. Why Modi claimed credit for first wave but second wave is state responsibility? We won't have answers to these. Follow some unbiased reporters , all your qs are answered. 35000 cr line of credit extended to vaccine makers. Sputnik approved, local production of Sputnik as well. O2 production , haven’t you read that even Sterlite in TN is opened to produce 02 only. Logistics of distribution management is mediocre both by center and state. Rising cases in the wave is to do with extended contact, that can only be reduced by lockdowns. Ride the wave. Vilander 1
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: System ajkal acha word chala hua to save some arses. Yes, India is like Scandinavia or Switzerland in health infrastructure and bureaucracy. Only government is culprit sandeep and dial_100 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Yes, India is like Scandinavia or Switzerland in health infrastructure and bureaucracy. Only government is culprit lekin maine to lika ki people are also responsible...wo kyun nahin padhte. wo to bhukt bhi rahe hi hai Govt ke liye senti kyun hona jaise im just pointning them out but obviously the ones who is in charge shud n wud be held responsible
coffee_rules Posted May 1, 2021 Posted May 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: India is running out of oxygen, Covid-19 patients are dying – because the government wasted time It took eight months to invite bids for over 150 oxygen generation plants costing just Rs 200 crore. Six months later, most still aren’t up and running. Link - https://scroll.in/article/992537/india-is-running-out-of-oxygen-covid-19-patients-are-dying-because-the-government-wasted-time Despite COVID-19 crisis at home, India doubled oxygen exports in FY21 Link - https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/india-doubled-oxygen-exports-to-9301-mt-in-apr-jan-fy21-earned-rs-89-crore/story/437140.html exports are industrial grade o2 for industrial purposes, not medical grade. Even those plants now produce MG O2 Look at this state 8 plants granted to AAP in Delhi using PM Cares fund, only 1 was opened. Rest of the money is used for AAP advertising sandeep 1
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