Mariyam Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Clarke said: There's some numero BS as well among current trends, funny to see names being changed. That numero stuff works. In my class tenth I scored a 48 in maths in the prelims. My mom frantically tried all kinds of dawa/dua/carrot/stick and finally decided to get my name changed by adding a letter. She even got all my documents changed over time. And I scored an 84 in maths in the actual exams. It was nothing short of a miracle for the amount of maths I know. Or rather don't know. Had she added another letter I would have scored a century
Clarke Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: Aryan is a name which is associated with nazis if one gives that name to a child he or she is given a baggage which is better not given. Now go back read my post and see If I say I have a problem with it. There is nothing cool with racist ideology that lead to genocide. There is nothing special or superior about anyone based on race. What do u think of Arya Samaj ? WC2011INDIA and Global.Baba 2
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 6 hours ago, beetle said: It may mean hate in other areas...but in India we don't have that history of hate and it does not apply. Like Hardik is a nice name here but a traumatic on for a guy in English speaking countries. It is just a name made popular by bollywood.....not much else. In India aryan means fair skinned northerner that is a descendent of central Asia or where ever and not a dravidian. Tell me if this is not what Aryan stands for in the minds of muppets that name their kids as such? Lol. It's disgusting seeing people name their kids timur aryan etc. What is so celebratory and memorable about millions of people dying one wonders.
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Clarke said: What do u think of Arya Samaj ? That's arya. Don't Confuse
Clarke Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Vilander said: That's arya. Don't Confuse The Aryan used in India sounds closer to Arya than the master race thousand year reich stuff.
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Clarke said: The Aryan used in India sounds closer to Arya than the master race thousand year reich stuff. Aryan is associated with nazi ideology whether one likes or not. For sure one can name themselves Hitler or stalin etc and stay in India. Or go elsewhere and face prejudice.
Clarke Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: Aryan is associated with nazi ideology whether one likes or not. For sure one can name themselves Hitler or stalin etc and stay in India. Or go elsewhere and face prejudice. In the west. You may argue it's not an ideal name in the global context. What is the answer, we educate them as & when required or go about the slope which ends with everyone being John & Jane ?
beetle Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, Vilander said: In India aryan means fair skinned northerner that is a descendent of central Asia or where ever and not a dravidian. Tell me if this is not what Aryan stands for in the minds of muppets that name their kids as such? Lol. It's disgusting seeing people name their kids timur aryan etc. What is so celebratory and memorable about millions of people dying one wonders. He is not a Dravidian . If it is okay to have a surname Dravid ...I guess it should be okay to be named Aryan .
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, beetle said: He is not a Dravidian . If it is okay to have a surname Dravid ...I guess it should be okay to be named Aryan . Aryan dravidian etc only exist in people's mind there is now scientific evidence for the same. And Dravid lol only person that I know that had this name is Rahul and dmk admk etc the parties. Its not even a thing. Anyway suit yourself.
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Clarke said: In the west. You may argue it's not an ideal name in the global context. What is the answer, we educate them as & when required or go about the slope which ends with everyone being John & Jane ? Educate them sure try telling a jew or an African origin that you are calling yourself aryan but not that aryan see how that goes. you want that for a kid OK.
beetle Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Vilander said: Aryan dravidian etc only exist in people's mind there is now scientific evidence for the same. And Dravid lol only person that I know that had this name is Rahul and dmk admk etc the parties. Its not even a thing. Anyway suit yourself. There shouldn't be double standards ,that's all. If Dravid is fine,so should Aryan.
Clarke Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Vilander said: Educate them sure try telling a jew or an African origin that you are calling yourself aryan but not that aryan see how that goes. you want that for a kid OK. I think ur just ticked off since Aryan was once suggested as opposite to Dravidian, that's not how it is being used by these bolly people. I cant believe I just defended them. beetle 1
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Clarke said: I think ur just ticked off since Aryan was once suggested as opposite to Dravidian, that's not how it is being used by these bolly people. I cant believe I just defended them. lol you think so ? thats your opinion. I being an Indian have an idea what Arya ( or noble warrior) is meant to be, any other person outside of India will have zero context other than hitler when one says aryan , they will imagine a skinhead with swastika tatoo in their mind. both unfortunately misappropriated by nazis but thats the truth. My opinion is irrelevant, your judgement on my opinion is even more irrelevant lol. Edited April 19, 2021 by Vilander
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, beetle said: There shouldn't be double standards ,that's all. If Dravid is fine,so should Aryan. no one killed 5 million people calling themselves dravid though. just a small matter of FACTS. Edited April 19, 2021 by Vilander
beetle Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Vilander said: no one killed 5 million people calling themselves dravid through. just a small matter of FACTS.
MechEng Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mariyam said: Relax! I don't think the name has any racist undertones. I've a nephew named Aryan. Its just one of those 'cool' names that people have. Another way to look at Bollywood names: Back in the 50s and 60s many actors used generic North Indian Hindu names to get wider acceptance. Dilip Kumar, Ajit, Madhubala etc Today the names are a lot catchier and generally faith agnostic: Jackie, Mallika, Aryan, Tiger, Kiara etc Is this even a discussion? Jews faced no prosecution in India so it ends right there. Should we start micromanaging Ashkenazi Jews by pointing out stuff they do which are offensive to Hindus? Edited April 19, 2021 by MechEng
rkt.india Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Vilander said: no one killed 5 million people calling themselves dravid though. just a small matter of FACTS. Context of Indian Aryan is different than German Aryan. Here Aryan comes from Arya. India's proper hindi name is also Aryavrat.
Vilander Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, MechEng said: Is this even a discussion? Jews faced no prosecution in India so it ends right there. Should we start micromanaging Ashkenazi Jews by pointing out stuff they do which are offensive to Hindus? It will be a discussion everywhere in the world for the basic fact that one wants to celebrate people or ideologies that 100% do not profess genocide. Thank you.
MechEng Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Context of Indian Aryan is different than German Aryan. Here Aryan comes from Arya. India's proper hindi name is also Aryavrat. The power of narrative is the key here, people can easily do their own research and try to understand the Indian cultural context. The fact that Indians have to justify why they use words like "Aryan" or "Swastika" shows who controls the narrative.
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