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^ Also Americans supporting twitter must know that twitter follows rules and laws of America, while it has chooses not to follow the same American laws in India. US Admin can take action. And twitter won’t call it death of democracy in US, but if Indian administration takes action, how are they allowed to call it death of democracy.  Go and fight it in Indian court instead of making BS noises

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4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Whatsapp complies with all privacy laws and requirements of EU, is complaining about FoE in Inia, giving India a third world treatment

As i said, Over the period these media platforms turned into new NGOs whose sole purpose in a country is to destabilise the country and keep control on regime. India got tough with NGOs , its turn of SM platforms now.

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25 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Whatsapp complies with all privacy laws and requirements of EU, is complaining about FoE in Inia, giving India a third world treatment

 

Didn't know that whatsapp was sharing information with govt in Europe.

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2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

How does it undermine freedom of expression? 

EU has very stringent policy on data security. @Mariyam ji suggested. A hindu is given a feed on wrong happening on Hindu while a Muslim is given a feed wrong happening to Muslims since strict rules are not their in India. And similar stuff. SM platform intelligently doing what you like and giving this info in name of customised advert.

 

This does not mean that if EU gvmnts want, they can not access any information or details from SM platforms. Don’t mix the two.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said:

We had east India company once...we don't want another one

Fort William and fort George can have them..anyone's most of them are brown sepoys

i too remember reading about east India company tagging mughal/maratha social media accounts

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2 hours ago, ravishingravi said:


What are you talking about ? It’s EU privacy laws and then have been forced to follow it. 

@Trichromatic This aspect of new privacy laws infringement of data sharing with FB is unique to some countries like India. EU restricted WhatsApp user data sharing with FB ads. India could not enforce this.

 

I am talking about WA data sharing with law enforcement. WA is fighting Indian authorities over these policies citing FoE. There is no FoE over national security. Period.

 

https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/privacy-policy-eea?eea=1#privacy-policy-updates-legal-obligation

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7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

@Trichromatic This aspect of new privacy laws infringement of data sharing with FB is unique to some countries like India. EU restricted WhatsApp user data sharing with FB ads. India could not enforce this.

 

I am talking about WA data sharing with law enforcement. WA is fighting Indian authorities over these policies citing FoE. There is no FoE over national security. Period.

 

https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/privacy-policy-eea?eea=1#privacy-policy-updates-legal-obligation

 

 

I thought whatsapp is arguing about privacy issues caused by Indian govt demands to remove encryption from whatsapp. 

 

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WhatsApp has filed a petition in the Delhi High Court challenging the new IT rule that require the Facebook-owned company to trace the originator of any message on its platform. The messaging platform said that doing so would severely undermine user privacy.

 

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/whatsapp-drags-govt-to-court-against-new-it-rule-on-tracing-message-originator/article34646461.ece

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@coffee_rules

 

It's ok for government to say that they want user information and require messaging apps to remove encryption if it is required to comply with laws as the reasons mentioned are law and order and national security. 

 

It's ok for whatsapp to challenge the decision on grounds of privacy. This should be through govt and courts.

However it's not ok for whatsapp to just keep on extending this and going to court at last moment.

 

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In case they don't get favorable outcome they should either follow the law or shut their business, as simple as that. 

 

 

However, it's not ok for goverment to falsely claim this. Government is trying to mislead people by giving an impression that changes won't have any impact. 

 

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How does government asses that it will impact normal functioning of whatsapp in any manner or not. 

 

Additionally not ok to make ambigious statements like this. Encryption or some other technology. Trying to give an impression as if there is an alternative which whatsapp isn't willing to try. This is again an attempt to mislead people. Sure it's whatsapp's responsibility to find a technical solution, but govt shouldn't try to mislead people that it's possible. Anyway whatsapp will claim that there is no other solution.

 

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Govt should stick to stance that whatsapp has to follow the law, that's it. It shouldn't try to mislead people by making additional statements which government isn't is in situation to assess. Their statements are similar to Twitter's attempt to mislead people by crying about freedom of expression.

 

 

 

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^ I dont know how much you or other icfers understand the basics but , what is a encryption? In lay mans terms, say person A is sending a letter/content to person B,  Post office has decided to put this letter in a locked box which can not be opened. and only post office has the keys with which they open the box and give the letter once letter has reached the intended recipient.

 

So what if govmnt want to check and verify what is content. It has to request whatsapp to open the box and tell them content. Now whatsapp is foreign organisation and Govmnt cant trust it fully as it may or may not open and show the content. ie govmnt is at its mercy and it definitely doesnt trusts whatsapp or any organisation. Its absolutely right as whatsap may not show some info.

 

What Govmnt is saying is share a duplicate key or make another opening with which, if need be, Govmnt officials can  open the box and see whats in there. They are also saying that this activity of gvmnt officials opening the box will be used exceptionally with due legal or national security teams actions.

 

Now this is not same as individual privacy, where whatspp is sharing name and address of sender and reciever and reading the data and telling other organisations those details or doing analytics to say other organisations what senders and recievers are generally interested in.

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