coffee_rules Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 NRI Whizkid from NJ https://www.chess.com/news/view/abhimanyu-mishra-second-gm-norm-karjakin-record Lone Wolf and randomGuy 1 1
Gollum Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Great achievement. Wish he played for India, our loss!!!!!
Khota Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Impressive. I don't think there are more than 2K Grandmasters.
Number Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Amazing feat. His father is from Bhopal. Haven't seen many non-southie and non-Bengali Indians doing good at chess.
Gollum Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, Number said: Amazing feat. His father is from Bhopal. Haven't seen many non-southie and non-Bengali Indians doing good at chess. Several strong Marathi players, Pune/Nashik are pretty strong centres. Up North you have Delhi. Anyway Mishra is an American product, brought up in their culture/ecosystem, under American coaches. In India we don't have much of a chess culture in several states, that's the problem. Number 1
randomGuy Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Number said: Amazing feat. His father is from Bhopal. Haven't seen many non-southie and non-Bengali Indians doing good at chess. Data From yr 2019, TN dominates. Edited July 1, 2021 by randomGuy Number 1
kepler37b Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: NRI Whizkid from NJ https://www.chess.com/news/view/abhimanyu-mishra-second-gm-norm-karjakin-record I love this image. The tilak on his forehead. Be proud of your heritage. The parents deserve an award. Edited July 1, 2021 by kepler37b coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2021 Author Posted July 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Gollum said: Anyway Mishra is an American product, brought up in their culture/ecosystem, under American coaches. In India we don't have much of a chess culture in several states, that's the problem. His coach is GM Arun Prasad, https://gmarunchess.com/?sfw=pass1625136642 “During my chess playing years I had chance to travel and play in 44 countries all over the world and to work with some of the best players in chess. Most importantly, my work with the former World Champion Viswanathan Anand. The long hours we spent working had a great impact on my chess understanding and the knowledge about the method of work adopted by the elite players.”
Gollum Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: His coach is GM Arun Prasad, https://gmarunchess.com/?sfw=pass1625136642 “During my chess playing years I had chance to travel and play in 44 countries all over the world and to work with some of the best players in chess. Most importantly, my work with the former World Champion Viswanathan Anand. The long hours we spent working had a great impact on my chess understanding and the knowledge about the method of work adopted by the elite players.” Who himself is NJ based as per your link. Moreover this kid had other trainers, like Berkeley's Sam Shankland, Michael Khodarkovsky and was part of Kasparov Chess Foundation which is USA based. As far as I am concerned this kid is a threat to my Indian guys, wish him well but not against Pragg, Nihal, Gukesh, Raunak, Aryan, Leon etc
Laaloo Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gollum said: Who himself is NJ based as per your link. Moreover this kid had other trainers, like Berkeley's Sam Shankland, Michael Khodarkovsky and was part of Kasparov Chess Foundation which is USA based. As far as I am concerned this kid is a threat to my Indian guys, wish him well but not against Pragg, Nihal, Gukesh, Raunak, Aryan, Leon etc Oh please. We are more Indians than you. Gollum, Lord and coffee_rules 2 1
Gollum Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Oh please. We are more Indians than you. No Laaloo 1
kepler37b Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 8 hours ago, randomGuy said: Data From yr 2019, TN dominates. Surprised to see 2 gujjju grand masters. The stereotype of a gujju is very different
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2021 Author Posted July 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Gollum said: Who himself is NJ based as per your link. Moreover this kid had other trainers, like Berkeley's Sam Shankland, Michael Khodarkovsky and was part of Kasparov Chess Foundation which is USA based. As far as I am concerned this kid is a threat to my Indian guys, wish him well but not against Pragg, Nihal, Gukesh, Raunak, Aryan, Leon etc Janmabhoomi and Karmabhoomi can be different, donon apne mainey rakhta hai.. Janani Janmabhumishcha Swargadapi Gariyasi
sarcastic Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Janmabhoomi and Karmabhoomi can be different, donon apne mainey rakhta hai.. Janani Janmabhumishcha Swargadapi Gariyasi For you and ppl born in India, Janma bhoomi is India. But for the next generation, even the janna bhoomi is also abroad and not India. Could not verify but looks like Abhimanyu is born in USA. So, a (Hindu) American with his heritage from India is an apt description. Our Government gives PIO cards for such people. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2021 Author Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, sarcastic said: For you and ppl born in India, Janma bhoomi is India. But for the next generation, even the janna bhoomi is also abroad and not India. Could not verify but looks like Abhimanyu is born in USA. So, a (Hindu) American with his heritage from India is an apt description. Our Government gives PIO cards for such people. I was responding to his coach who is “NJ-based”. Anyway, it’s notable that a youngest GM record is breached. Of course, he will be a threat to other Indian GMs.
Gollum Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) Right now India has 68 GMs. Russia, USA, Ukraine, Germany have more though USA, Germany benefitted a lot from Soviet breakup, many Soviet GMs settled in those 2 countries post USSR dissolution in early 90s. Also most of USA's top players now are recent poaches, Caruana (Italy), So (Philippines), Aronian (Armenia), Dominguez (Cuba) all switched federations because of generous offers by the US billionaire Rex Sinquefield. Truth be told India is only behind Russia and Ukraine when it comes to home produced GMs. By the mid of this decade I expect us to be #2, Russia will be tough to catch (chess is a religion there, basically what cricket is to India!!!!) but who knows what will happen 20-30 years down the road. From 0 GMs in 1987 to this. Many ICFers were alive when Bangladesh was ahead of us in chess!!! Just like chess, in all spheres, apna time aayega. Vishwaguru loading Edited July 1, 2021 by Gollum
Gollum Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Mishra's father (handling the account) is a tool. Nepo is right, the way he got his norms is farcical, easiest path compared to other GMs....3/4 of our Indian kids could have broken the record if they had followed a similar strategy. His so called WR will always be frowned upon by other GMs. Kid is normal, his father is a bit crazy, typical Indian parent who wants to live his life through his child's success/records. Saw an interview of his, clear case of parent controlling the kid and deciding every aspect of his life....unhealthy toxic environment. Must learn from Henrik Carlsen who took a back seat. Don't want the tragic story of Gata Kamsky to repeat. Edited July 5, 2021 by Gollum BacktoCricaddict 1
coffee_rules Posted July 5, 2021 Author Posted July 5, 2021 ^^ can you explain more how different was his methods to get the title than others? I heard that he is homeschooled and not having the rigors of going through normal childhood
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 ^^ Regardless of anything, kudos to the kid. To spend a childhood on a passion and put in countless hours - whether of your own accord or due to parental pressure - is very challenging. Hopefully he goes on to have a great career and life. coffee_rules 1
randomGuy Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: ^^ can you explain more how different was his methods to get the title than others? I heard that he is homeschooled and not having the rigors of going through normal childhood His father's interview, apparently has spent 200k usd so far on Abhimanyu...the kid is sincere, mature enough to understand to not take the losses to heart. Father dedicated. Very eager also... coffee_rules 1
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