Fans need to understand England approach will not work for Indian team.

[Sandeep99]

Aggressive batsmen and bowlers who can bat..  India may have well struck gold with sundar,  thakur and chahar. These guys need to play a lot of one day cricket before 2023 world cup. These guys will win it for us. 

Edited July 20, 2021 by Sandeep99

[vvvslaxman]

India has to sort out chase totals in crunch matches.  Don't care about bilaterals.  Choking is our biggest problem.  We did dominate in the world cup 2019 until that point.

[maniac]

Bump. That’s why need proper players with temperament  in ODIs 

[Ankit_sharma03]

34 minutes ago, maniac said:

Bump. That’s why need proper players with temperament  in ODIs 

its not temperament its experience

In this line up Dhawan n Manish the so called safe played also failed

[Ankit_sharma03]

Fans need to understand any new plan takes time....england had many such collapses. at one time critics started calling them a 40 over team. But they stuck by plan

And converting 40-50 to 100s comes with experience 

 

Ppl say kohli has no patience but fans have even worse .

 

The old way aint gonna make us champion

[Lord]

41 minutes ago, maniac said:

Bump. That’s why need proper players with temperament  in ODIs 

like Dhawan and Pandey?

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

like Dhawan and Pandey?

don’t know about that but definitely not with Gowtham, Rana, Pandya bros etc 

[Majestic]

This approach will work fine with below names in your top 6:-

 

Rohit Sharma

Virat Kohli

Shikhar Dhawan

KL Rahul

Rishabh Pant

Hardik Pandya

Prithvi Shaw

Ishan Kishan

Shreyas Iyer

Suryakumar Yadav

 

Ofcourse, it won't work when you have 4-5 debutants in your side.

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

don’t know about that but definitely not with Gowtham, Rana, Pandya bros etc 

gowtham rana are not international standard

krunal is more of t20 player thats also due to his bowling

 

Last time in remember when hardik n dhawan had a partnership in Aus , the only time we had a chance of winning was when hardik was batting but dhawan kept on pushing RRR high coz he was struggling in middle over and we failed. So what temperament ?? Batting slower then RRR is not temperament .......levaing it till the end is far more risky then playing quicker then the RRR

[Lord]

13 minutes ago, maniac said:

don’t know about that but definitely not with Gowtham, Rana, Pandya bros etc 

 

not much difference today

 

anyway none of them was slogging

[Ankit_sharma03]

Even today- Shaw , samson , sky scored more the flag bearers of safe batting- manish n dhawan...even pandya scored more then them

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Even today- Shaw , samson , sky scored more the flag bearers of safe batting- manish n dhawan...even pandya scored more then them

Any batsman can get out cheaply to

any bowling or have a bad day the difference is Rohit or Kohli or even Dhawan would have converted that start to a daddy 100 on most occasions.

[Lone Wolf]

Pandya has real issues against spin now...  He needs to get the slog sweep under his armory.  His straight bat shots make him look like a dud.  He has improved manifold against pace though. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Any batsman can get out cheaply to

any bowling or have a bad day the difference is Rohit or Kohli or even Dhawan would have converted that start to a daddy 100 on most occasions.

yup thats the obsession personal scores

Rohit kohli did get 100s in England game Wc....we didnt win....coz they took so much time

100 is not the problem, its the time u take n leave for others

Dhawan has been struggling in middle overs

[Forward Defence]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Even today- Shaw , samson , sky scored more the flag bearers of safe batting- manish n dhawan...even pandya scored more then them

Dhawan is still the highest run getter in the series though. What we need is a good mix of both styles. SKY at 4 will help that cause.

[maniac]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yup thats the obsession personal scores

Rohit kohli did get 100s in England game Wc....we didnt win....coz they took so much time

100 is not the problem, its the time u take n leave for others

Dhawan has been struggling in middle overs

a “selfish” 100 today would have added 75-100 runs more to the total we ended  up with for sure.

[maniac]

@Ankit_sharma03 you are blaming rohit and Kohli for loss vs England. Did you watch the final overs?

 

Also check and see why we even got close to win at one point 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pandya has real issues against spin now...  He needs to get the slog sweep under his armory.  His straight bat shots make him look like a dud.  He has improved manifold against pace though. 

spin isnt a weakness, this guy today was bowling way to slow which these days isnt comman and TBH he was bowling really well. He plays a very high risk game so risk has its downside

The only spinner who has a measure of hardik is Rashid khan and some what i found zampa found the same length that rashid targets towards end of aussie tour.

 

Whenever he ll try to defend he ll have issue like dhoni coz both have heavy bottom hand . He shudnt overdefend

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Dhawan is still the highest run getter in the series though. What we need is a good mix of both styles. SKY at 4 will help that cause.

Rohit , kohli, Rahul are already old style who go for quick runs towards the end only....how many more ???

SKY is more suited to finishing in ODIs i feel

Pant, hardik, jaddu wud be my choices for no.4......for team combination a leftie is best

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Dhawan is still the highest run getter in the series though. What we need is a good mix of both styles. SKY at 4 will help that cause.

 

Dhawan 128 at 88

 

SKY 124 at 122

 

4 runs better with much worse SR. And Dhawan bats in powerplay