Tokyo 2020 Paralympics: Record 19 medals thus far!!!! Amazing

[Mariyam]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

200th ranked, ended 4th. She was a lioness for the last 4 days. 

WOW

[deathmonger]

one thing is we should not rue the 4th places too much. every country has loads of 4th places.

 

we should focus on excellence across the board - larger contingents qualifying and going on to win gold/silver. ultimately its a numbers/funding/infrastructure game.

 

usa, who are the best sends around 615 athletes. now obviously some are teams but then some people compete in multiple sports etc so they cancel each other out and we can assume say 600 competitors.

 

they will finish at around 110. so roughly 70-80% of americans do not medal. and i am pretty sure loads of 4th place finishes there.

 

now 4th place finishes look bad cause we dont have many medals but thing is 4th place finishes are part and parcel of the game.

 

 

 

 

[AuxiliA]

26 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

On a lighter note, the name Karmarkar sounds like a slogan from the Do or Die movement.

 

Maharashtrians have the best/most hilarious surnames in India lol. Speaking as an outsider. 

[Number]

So from Atlanta 1996 Rio is the Olympics we had lesser number of medals than the previous edition.

Between London and Rio we had govt change. In India after govt change, administration of sports bodies change, coaches and staffs change too to a large extent. It takes time to nurture new talent. May be that is the reason we had a fall from 6 to 2.

[Forward Defence]

4 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

Maharashtrians have the best/most hilarious surnames in India lol. Speaking as an outsider. 

Karmakar is a Bengali surname.

[Mariyam]

 

7 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

Maharashtrians have the best/most hilarious surnames in India lol. Speaking as an outsider. 

 

2 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Karmakar is a Bengali surname.

Yup.

 

I misread Karmakar as Karmarkar.

 

[deathmonger]

anyone else feeling a bit empty now that it is almost over? had so much fun.

[AuxiliA]

1 minute ago, Number said:

So from Atlanta 1996 Rio is the Olympics we had lesser number of medals than the previous edition.

Between London and Rio we had govt change. In India after govt change, administration of sports bodies change, coaches and staffs change too to a large extent. It takes time to nurture new talent. May be that is the reason we had a fall from 6 to 2.

 

London 2012 was our 'lucky' Olympics. Most of the favorites won. Saina was trailing in her Bronze match before her opponent retired hurt. 

 

Tokyo 2020 is by far out best. Came so close to medals in a variety of sports. Just needed a bit of luck which wasn't there unfortunately. 

[Forward Defence]

6 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

 

 

Yup.

 

I misread Karmakar as Karmarkar.

 

My favorite Karmakar is Panchanan Karmakar. Not a sportsperson though.

[AuxiliA]

3 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

 

 

Yup.

 

I misread Karmakar as Karmarkar.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Karmakar is a Bengali surname.

 

Opps my bad, didn't know. It sounded Marathi though. 

[Forward Defence]

1 minute ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Opps my bad, didn't know. It sounded Marathi though. 

Yes the "kar" at the end must have got you confused.

[deathmonger]

2 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

London 2012 was our 'lucky' Olympics. Most of the favorites won. Saina was trailing in her Bronze match before her opponent retired hurt. 

 

Tokyo 2020 is by far out best. Came so close to medals in a variety of sports. Just needed a bit of luck which wasn't there unfortunately. 

 

tokyo definitely best. we are almost there. maybe a decade more. already happened in cwg. olympics level is a lot more.

 

its not just luck. just more infrastructure is required so we send bigger contingents and better athletes.

 

coming close to medals is a given. you cant win everything. 70-80% of americans dont even medal and they are the best. i assume lots of close stuff there as well.

 

the close stuff stings a bit now cause our tally is low and we are thinking "what if" but they can't be avoided. hopefully we start doing around 15-20 by 2032 with 2-3 golds. there will be a lot more 4th place finishes/close stuff but won't sting as much.

[Mariyam]

6 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Yes the "kar" at the end must have got you confused.

Samesies

Edited August 7, 2021 by Mariyam

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

 

tokyo definitely best. we are almost there. maybe a decade more. already happened in cwg. olympics level is a lot more.

 

its not just luck. just more infrastructure is required so we send bigger contingents and better athletes.

 

coming close to medals is a given. you cant win everything. 70-80% of americans dont even medal and they are the best. i assume lots of close stuff there as well.

 

the close stuff stings a bit now cause our tally is low and we are thinking "what if" but they can't be avoided. hopefully we start doing around 15-20 by 2032 with 2-3 golds. there will be a lot more 4th place finishes/close stuff but won't sting as much.

Sports Psychologists should also be employed by Indian sport bodies...  Our athletes are good enough & are improving. 

Infrastructure will take time to develop. 

 

[Number]

9 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

 

tokyo definitely best. we are almost there. maybe a decade more. already happened in cwg. olympics level is a lot more.

 

its not just luck. just more infrastructure is required so we send bigger contingents and better athletes.

 

coming close to medals is a given. you cant win everything. 70-80% of americans dont even medal and they are the best. i assume lots of close stuff there as well.

 

the close stuff stings a bit now cause our tally is low and we are thinking "what if" but they can't be avoided. hopefully we start doing around 15-20 by 2032 with 2-3 golds. there will be a lot more 4th place finishes/close stuff but won't sting as much.

 

 

There are diff categories of sport w.r.t our current level and by 2028 we should be aiming in them accordingly 

 

Wrestling  - 3 medals with 1 gold

Shooting - 3 medals with 1 gold

Hockey - 1 medal

Boxing - 2 medals

Archery - 1 medal 

Badminton - 2 medals

Table Tennis - 1 medal

Athletics- 2 medals

 

2 medals in new sports like fencing or golf or any other.

 

Total 15-17 with 3-4 golds.

 

[Gollum]

26 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

 

 

Yup.

 

I misread Karmakar as Karmarkar.

 

I thought that was deliberate on your part 

[deathmonger]

9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Sports Psychologists should also be employed by Indian sport bodies...  Our athletes are good enough & are improving. 

Infrastructure will take time to develop. 

 

 

infrastructure should also develop with time. compared to countries with similar per capita incomes, our medal tally reflects population factor.

 

by 2032 we should have per capita incomes and livign standards comparable to gerogia, azerbaijan etc and have the medal tally reflect that.

[deathmonger]

14 minutes ago, Number said:

 

 

There are diff categories of sport w.r.t our current level and by 2028 we should be aiming in them accordingly 

 

Wrestling  - 3 medals with 1 gold

Shooting - 3 medals with 1 gold

Hockey - 1 medal

Boxing - 2 medals

Archery - 1 medal 

Badminton - 2 medals

Table Tennis - 1 medal

Athletics- 2 medals

 

2 medals in new sports like fencing or golf or any other.

 

Total 15-17 with 3-4 golds.

 

 

should aim for both here with 1 gold.

 

the mens hockey team is only inferior to belgium/australia and there's a lot of good talent coming in. can easily aim for gold here.

 

even the womens can aim for a podium finish. lots of good talent here too.

 

the emerging player of the year in 2019 men and women both went to india.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, AuxiliA said:

 

Maharashtrians have the best/most hilarious surnames in India lol. Speaking as an outsider. 

Karmakars are Bengali,my Bengali friends brother in law is Karmakar

[neel roy]

Neeraj Chora s top 5 competitors  in Finals. 4 have PB better than him  
 

 

Johannes Vetter

Johannes Vetter is the big favourite at the Tokyo Olympics this year and has the second biggest throw in javelin throw history. The 28-year-old is known to breach the 90m mark with great consistency and has won the gold at the 2017 World Championships and another gold at the European Throwing Cup. He settled for the bronze at the 2019 World Championships. Vetter set a new personal best of 97.76 m, only 72 centimetres shy of Jan Železný’s world record at the Kamila Skolimowska Memorial. He finished second behind Neeraj Chopra in qualifying with a throw of 85.64.

 

Jakub Vadlejch

Jakub Vadlejch finished second in Group B during qualification, with a throw of 84.93m. The 30-year-old set his personal best of 89.73m during the 2017 World Championships, where he won the silver medal. Vadlejch qualification throw was his season-best effort, which is way below Chopra’s effort during the qualification and the season, but the Czech star could make his mark with the sport being of fine margins.

 

Arshad Nadeem

Pakistan’s javelin thrower Arshad Nadeem topped Group B in the qualification round and will be one of the biggest draws during the finals on Saturday. Nadeem threw 85.16 in qualification, which is shy of his personal record and seasonal best of 86.38m. The 24-year-old won the gold medal at the South Asian Games in 2019, and will certainly be aiming to make the big step to the Olympic podium.

 

Vítězslav Veselý

Vítězslav Veselý is one of the only handful of players who have recorded throws better than Neeraj Chopra’ personal best on 88.07m in their careers. Veselý finished fifth in Group A and qualified for the finals with a throw of 83.04m. The 38-year-old veteran has won gold medals at the World Championships and the European Championships in a distinguished career. With Tokyo likely being his final frontier, Veselý will have an added incentive to get the extra distance and take a potential spot on the podium.

Julian Weber

Germany’s Julian Weber will also be a contender during the finals on Saturday after he threw he finished third in Group B with a throw of 84.41m in qualification. Weber has largely been overshadowed by Vetter’s exploits on the world stage, but the 26-year-old has a personal best of 88.29m, 0.22m more than Neeraj Chopra’s personal best. While that effort from Weber came way back in 2017, the German ace remains a key hurdle Neeraj Chopra has to pass if he aims to Olympic glory.