Trichromatic Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, zen said: That is your opinion [QUOTE] eng- 27 Nz - 20 WI- 20 Sa- 31 Shambolic Inpe 50% rely krti hia overseas [/QUOTE] In SENA, for a top order Indian batsman, playing with India losing early wkts, that is pretty good. More over Pujara redeemed himself big time with the series in Aus, helping India win for the first time there in its history. Followed it up with a fighting performance in the last series in Aus. Last time in Eng, he hit an unbeaten 100. This time, he helped Ind win a test and scored a 91, a lone warrior knock. So even a Pujara at 50% has been impactful. See the numbers for 2021 in SENA v Aus and Eng. (I am on vacation in the Rocky Mountains to post numbers over my cell. It must be ob this thread too) That theory was exposed in this series. #3 flopped even with old ball when openers scored big. No team has luxury of having openers being top scorer in a series like India has in this series. Samcric 1
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: That theory was exposed in this series. #3 flopped even with old ball when openers scored big. No team has luxury of having openers being top scorer in a series like India has in this series. We know that in the series, he has helped Ind win a test and also scored a 91, a lone warrior effort (the thread itself is on that). It is the guys in form like Rohit, KL, Pant and Jadeja (from series in Ind and other formats including IPL), who are not stepping up. We know what guys like Pujara and Kohli have done over the years when in their best form. In the 4th test so far, Rohit 11, KL 17, and Jadeja 10. These guys are hardly making the most of their form! Edited September 2, 2021 by zen
Trichromatic Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, zen said: We know that in the series, he has helped Ind win a test and also scored a 91. It is the guys in form like Rohit, KL, Pant and Jadeja (from series in Ind and other formats including IPL), who are not stepping up. We know what guys like Pujara and Kohli have done over the years when in their best form. In the 4th test, Rohit 11, KL 17, and Jadeja 10. These guys are hardly making the most of their form! 7th highest scorer in a match. And top scorer didn't step up. Win credit is given to other players.
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 7th highest scorer in a match. And top scorer didn't step up. Win credit is given to other players. It depends upon how you bat during a passage of play. Ind was 18/1 when Pujara came in and departed at 155/4. If not for likes of Pujara, Ind could have been bundled out.
Trichromatic Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, zen said: It depends upon how you bat during a passage of play. Ind was 18/1 when Pujara came in and departed at 155/4. If not for likes of Pujara, Ind could have been bundled out. No matter how you bat, 7th highest scorer is helping team win. and top 2 scorers of match are not making use of form. Real McCoy 1
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: No matter how you bat, 7th highest scorer is helping team win. and top 2 scorers of match are not making use of form. That is what “impact” knocks are, helping teams win. Standing tall when it counts. Lone warrior in 2nd innings in the last test too Look at the series and the game here - Rohit 11, KL 17, and Jadeja 10 … 3 batsmen in supposedly good form scoring less than 40 among them … if these guys are Ind’s batsmen in form, God help Ind Edited September 2, 2021 by zen
Samcric Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, zen said: It depends upon how you bat during a passage of play. Ind was 18/1 when Pujara came in and departed at 155/4. If not for likes of Pujara, Ind could have been bundled out. If not for the likes of Pujara, promising youngsters would be playing. Stop defending the relic - he played some good knocks and served India well. Overstaying your welcome never did anyone any good.
Vk1 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Dravid scored 4 centuries in Eng 2011 and retired after a dismal Aus tour in 2011-12.. these 3,4,5 paandus will use all their clout to hang in as long as possible Edited September 2, 2021 by Vk1 Cricspin 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, zen said: Standing tall when it counts. Records type all-round analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Host country Australia http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or England http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or New Zealand http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or South Africa http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or West Indies http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Innings in match 4th innings http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by default (ascending) http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menuhttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff unfiltered 2010-2021 90 6433 206* 45.30 18 0 - - 0 57 0 - Profile filtered 2010-2021 31 264 77 20.30 0 - - - - 7 0 avg 20 in 4th innings while chasing, Legendry stuff...............no wonder we are such a good chasing side specially in eng he avg 6...yes 6 v England 2014-2021 7 19 12* 6.33 0 - - - - 2 0 - Sa men 11 Nz men 20 Aus men 30 Shukar hai WI men batting nhin aayi waha to waise hi run nhin bnte Edited September 2, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Records type all-round analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Host country Australia http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or England http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or New Zealand http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or South Africa http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif or West Indies http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Innings in match 4th innings http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by default (ascending) http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menuhttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/dblBakArwW.gifCleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff unfiltered 2010-2021 90 6433 206* 45.30 18 0 - - 0 57 0 - Profile filtered 2010-2021 31 264 77 20.30 0 - - - - 7 0 avg 20 in 4th innings while chasing, Legendry stuff...............no wonder we are such a good chasing side specially in eng he avg 6...yes 6 v England 2014-2021 7 19 12* 6.33 0 - - - - 2 0 - Sa men 11 Nz men 20 Aus men 30 Shukar hai WI men batting nhin aayi waha to waise hi run nhin bnte Ppl know that 4th innings total are low. Also your score is in relation to others … No one cares about WI too much
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Dravid scored 4 centuries in Eng 2011 and retired after a dismal Aus tour in 2011-12.. these 3,4,5 paandus will use all their clout to hang in as long as possible Pujara is 33. Dravid did not retire at 33. Would have been nice if retired in 2007/8 after the dismal SL series and ODI WC
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, zen said: That is what “impact” knocks are, helping teams win. Standing tall when it counts. Lone warrior in 2nd innings in the last test too Look at the series and the game here - Rohit 11, KL 17, and Jadeja 10 … 3 batsmen in supposedly good form scoring less than 40 among them … if these guys are Ind’s batsmen in form, God help Ind when pujara was in so called good form last time he avg 39 Rohit is 39 , KL 42 Tu to mat hi bol When KL was struggling to get runs last tour he scored a 149 on his 1st eng tour Pujara on his 1st england tour , his best was 55 KL has 2-100s in eng Pujara still 1 Hass beta...ek ek stat nikalunga
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, zen said: Ppl know that 4th innings total are low. Also your score is in relation to others … No one cares about WI too much only failures dnt ,most batsman have struggled in WI coz its not an easy place to score with underrated attack n duke Ashwin has 2-100s If he doesnt care drop himself n dont take a place. Dnt make rubbish excuses for failures.
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: when pujara was in so called good form last time he avg 39 Rohit is 39 , KL 42 Tu to mat hi bol When KL was struggling to get runs last tour he scored a 149 on his 1st eng tour Pujara on his 1st england tour , his best was 55 KL has 2-100s in eng Pujara still 1 Hass beta...ek ek stat nikalunga small sample size for others … Pujara has actually helped Ind win series in SENA … a 50% Pujara has already hit a 91 in tough conditions, where Ind lost a heap of wkts
Real McCoy Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, zen said: Pujara is 33. Dravid did not retire at 33. Would have been nice if retired in 2007/8 after the dismal SL series and ODI WC That's because Dravid>>>>>>>Pujara. Even at 38, he scored 3 centuries in a 4 test series and he opened in most of the ocassions. Pujara hasn't done anything of late since the Aus tour in 18/19
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zen said: small sample size for others … Pujara has actually helped Ind win series in SENA … a 50% Pujara has already hit a 91 in tough conditions, where Ind lost a heap of wkts Hows is it small ?? Another excuse Pujara in 3 tours has 1-100 KL in 2 has 2 And your laughing at them let me break that reality also When pujara scored everyone also performed so when team performs we win When kohli piled on runs pujara n others went missing. 91 in tough....haha...match uthake leg stump pe free vollies mili thi N if u hve just 1-2 things to count , u lost the argument. Edited September 2, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 Just now, Real McCoy said: That's because Dravid>>>>>>>Pujara. Even at 38, he scored 3 centuries in a 4 test series and he opened in most of the ocassions. Pujara hasn't done anything of late since the Aus tour in 18/19 I know Dravid fanboys like to write against Pujara, who is actually the most impactful test batsman for Ind since 1990. See is performances in India over the decades, in SL, in Aus. Dravid benefitted from playing with a relatively strong batting line up. Many times, I saw him hit runs when Sehwag had softened the opposition. Samcric 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, zen said: ook at the series and the game here - Rohit 11, KL 17, and Jadeja 10 … 3 batsmen in supposedly good form scoring less than 40 among them … if these guys are Ind’s batsmen in form, God help Ind Rohit has played 10 innings in england till now Let me take equal sample of pujara 1st 10 Rohit 1st 10 innings eng- 328 runs avg of 36.44 Pujara 1st 10 innings in eng - 222 runs avg of 22.22 Ab hasso KL beats pujara in his bad n good form in england Rohit beats him at even a tougher spot at 3 in same number of 1st innings @maniac- the next time He ridiculous rohit show him this Edited September 2, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
zen Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Hows is it small ?? Another excuse Pujara in 3 tours has 1-100 KL in 2 has 2 And your laughing at them let me break that reality also When pujara scored everyone also performed so when team performs we win When kohli piled on runs pujara n others went missing. 91 in tough....haha...match uthake leg stump pe free vollies mili thi N if u hve just 1-2 things to count , u lost the argument. Because when Pujara is in good form, he won you a series in Aus. Even a less than 50% Pujara won you a series in Aus second time around Here too a 50% Pujara helped Ind win a test and scoring a 91
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, zen said: Because when Pujara is in good form, he won you a series in Aus. Even a less than 50% Pujara won you a series in Aus second time around Here too a 50% Pujara helped Ind win a test and scoring a 91 He didnt alone win u , whole team performed n won Dnt insult others If pujara wud have scored when other made runs even we wud have won then also like Last time in eng when rat scored 2014 in aus when rat scored Edited September 2, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
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