Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Prior to WT20 2016 we played Asia Cup & settled down into a team combination. Newbies like Bumrah & Pandya got tournament exposure & also we ultimately managed to beat a superior T20 side than us Australia in a high pressure virtual Quarter final. Reached Semis.. Lost to eventual winners.o What's the point of playing useless low intensity bilaterals with our full strength sides vs under strength top sides who simply don't care about them? But Captain & Coach consider them amazing achievements. In my view Asia Cup is closest competition to emulate World cup. Next Asia Cup is scheduled to be played before WT20 so that's a good thing. But should happen every year in my view. Teams like Pakistan Lanka BD can offer great practice heading into world events. Norman, Singh bling, Frustrated and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Norman Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Agree 100% but a slight tweak There should be an Asian ODI and T20 league every year that goes on for about a month and a half simultaneously where every team plays each other on home and away basis. Don't know why broadcasters won't cash in on the gigantic South Asian viewership instead of those useless monthly Odi series against Australia and Sri Lanka. India Pakistan Sri Lanka Bangladesh Afghanistan Nepal Each team plays 2 Odis and 2 T20is against each other on one tour. Each tour will last 8-9 days so league stage will be done in about 40 days. Top2 teams in both the leagues at the end of the league stage (after playing 10 ODIs and 10T20s) will face off at No.1s home ground. Will be a blockbuster tournament and will do more good to Indian cricket than the useless IPL. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I strongly believe that we need to play a tri series with Eng, Aus/NZ every year in these countries (inc India) to prepare for big tournaments. That is more quality than a Asia Cup tournament. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Asia Cup should never be played. If you have any sense you will understand that Indian team exposure should be with England, Aus ,SA and NZ. Cancel the damn cup. Adi_91 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Whatever happened to that champions Cup or something that Ganguly was planning on? A quadrangular series between India, Australia, England and New Zealand would be mouth watering. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Asia Cup should never be played. If you have any sense you will understand that Indian team exposure should be with England, Aus ,SA and NZ. Cancel the damn cup. Thing is England Australia SA NZ will again won't take these small tri series seriously. They will rest their top players. You won't see Starc Hazelwood Cummo Boult Southee Mark Wood in there.. It will end up just like bilaterals. Subcontinent sides like Pakistan Lanka BD take them very seriously. And Last two Asia Cups have fairly higher in quality. Nidahas trophy even ended up becoming a cracker of a tournament. India lost to Sri lanka & had to win all their games to secure finals & then we got a legendary game in the finals. Subcontinent teams have different flair & different priorities than these gora nations. Vickydev 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Thing is England Australia SA NZ will again won't take these small tri series seriously. They will rest their top players. You won't see Starc Hazelwood Cummo Boult Southee Mark Wood in there.. It will end up just like bilaterals. Subcontinent sides like Pakistan Lanka BD take them very seriously. And Last two Asia Cups have fairly higher in quality. Nidahas trophy even ended up becoming a cracker of a tournament. India lost to Sri lanka & had to win all their games to secure finals & then we got a legendary game in the finals. Subcontinent teams have different flair & different priorities than these gora nations. You dont improve your game by playing inferior competition. So no Asia cup. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Khota said: You dont improve your game by playing inferior competition. So no Asia cup. There is no other non WC competition other than it... So make most out of it. Link to comment
Norman Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Khota said: You dont improve your game by playing inferior competition. So no Asia cup. You don't improve your game in these useless bilaterals against "superior" competition as well. We are the kings of bilaterals where we regularly beat England, New Zealand without breaking a sweat but how has that ever helped us in ICC events in the past 4 years? Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Norman said: You don't improve your game in these useless bilaterals against "superior" competition as well. We are the kings of bilaterals where we regularly beat England, New Zealand without breaking a sweat but how has that ever helped us in ICC events in the past 4 years? Because we have stupidity at the top. When your captain assures you a spot irrespective of your performance it always results in a loss. Link to comment
Clarke Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Players don't get time between tests, ipl & WT20 and the solution is add another tournament ? Link to comment
Vickydev Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Clarke said: Players don't get time between tests, ipl & WT20 and the solution is add another tournament ? As a replacement for some of the useless bilaterals. Agree with the OP.....SL, Pakistan, Afghanistan are always going to be playing with their full strengths against us and go all out. Nothing wrong in taking on these teams as prep. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 There should not be any bilateral ODIs or T20Is. These should only be played in tournament (like Asia Cups, Nidahas Trophy, ICC events) or tri series. Bilaterals should only be for tests. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, Vickydev said: As a replacement for some of the useless bilaterals. Agree with the OP.....SL, Pakistan, Afghanistan are always going to be playing with their full strengths against us and go all out. Nothing wrong in taking on these teams as prep. Exactly if BCCI wants it.. Can host it as many times as it likes. There will be a massive revenue boost. Friendly boards like Lanka BD can host it as well. Pakistan will be forced to participate like always. The entire South Asian viewership has been massively under utilized. Nobody gives a damn about watching Random T20Is & ODI bilateral in Aus or NZ. Viewership is 99% Indian anyways. That's not the case in sub Continent. Games will be highly competitive... Especially T20Is. Test cricket the premier format is anyways all about Big 4 India Aus NZ Eng.. Leave it as it is. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Its the most irrelevant tournament and wont improve the quality of any side involved. Even from audience perspective, it will be quite boring. Indian team needs longer breaks between test series and ICC tournaments. IPL will get even longer with more teams and become even bigger money spinner for BCCI so more tournaments will mean even tighter schedule. Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2016 Asia cup victory hardly had any impact on 2016 wt20. That wc would have gone the same way (2021 one)if not for Kohli. Would have lost against Pakistan and knocked out of tournament. One of the luckiest tournament for Dhoni as captain,hardly did anything apart from removing gloves at last minute against Bangla bros.. Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 yes with team like nepal, honkong and uae so sarma can stat pad . Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: There should not be any bilateral ODIs or T20Is. These should only be played in tournament (like Asia Cups, Nidahas Trophy, ICC events) or tri series. Bilaterals should only be for tests. Cricket was popular before when we had these tri and quadrangular tournaments,those independence cups etc were so thrilling, bilaterals are like zombies emotionless pathetic Austin 3:!6 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: 2016 Asia cup victory hardly had any impact on 2016 wt20. That wc would have gone the same way (2021 one)if not for Kohli. Would have lost against Pakistan and knocked out of tournament. One of the luckiest tournament for Dhoni as captain,hardly did anything apart from removing gloves at last minute against Bangla bros.. Did u see that team we had in 2016?.. Nehraji, finished Yuvi Dhoniconda Dhawan. Current team selected is light years ahead of it. Rahane was opening in SF ffs.. The fact that we reached semi is coz we more or less had a high intensity tournament prior to WT20. Asia Cup win played its part. Link to comment
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