zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Trichromatic said: So was Sri Lanka And it did well ., genius Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, zen said: And it did well ., genius Every team mattered. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Trichromatic said: Every team mattered. Not practically ... Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, zen said: Not practically ... Why was India rushing against Scotland? If such random list mattered then SA would be in SF, not Aus. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Trichromatic said: Why was India rushing against Scotland? If such random list mattered then SA would be in SF, not Aus. Because it could without the fear of losing chasing a low total versus a weak bowling side ... Link to comment
Norman Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Kent deta hain sabse shudh paani Adi_91, coffee_rules, Adamant and 2 others 5 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Let's see a post that say about including SCO and NAM Link to comment
Try_Ball Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: All top strikers won key matches with their finishing, except for Flavor Flav! coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Filterguru Selectors seem to have got the message and sent the purported match winner to NCA Nikola, raki05 and Serpico 3 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Guys upset that BD is not included because SDP is in top 5 do not even know that if BD is included SDP moves one place up View overall figures Opposition team Afghanistan or Australia or Bangladesh or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2021 Trophy ICC Men's T20 World Cup Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 50 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s Asif Ali (PAK) 4 3 2 52 27* 52.00 20 260.00 0 0 1 1 7 MS Wade (AUS) 6 3 2 74 41* 74.00 45 164.44 0 0 0 6 4 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3 3 1 69 35* 34.50 45 153.33 0 0 0 7 2 KIC Asalanka (SL) 5 5 1 225 80* 56.25 147 153.06 0 2 0 22 9 JC Buttler (ENG) 6 6 3 269 101* 89.66 178 151.12 1 1 0 22 13 DA Warner (AUS) 6 6 1 236 89* 47.20 159 148.42 0 2 0 28 7 AK Markram (SA) 5 5 2 162 52* 54.00 111 145.94 0 2 1 9 9 MA Leask (SCOT) 5 5 1 77 42* 19.25 53 145.28 0 0 2 7 4 DJ Mitchell (NZ) 4 4 1 165 72* 55.00 114 144.73 0 1 0 12 9 Karim Janat (AFG) 3 3 1 59 42* 29.50 41 143.90 0 0 0 4 3 PBB Rajapaksa (SL) 5 4 1 112 53 37.33 78 143.58 0 1 1 9 6 MR Marsh (AUS) 5 4 1 108 53 36.00 76 142.10 0 1 0 11 4 RG Sharma (INDIA) 3 3 0 88 74 29.33 62 141.93 0 1 1 9 4 JJ Roy (ENG) 5 5 1 123 61 30.75 89 138.20 0 1 0 11 5 MP Stoinis (AUS) 6 4 3 80 40* 80.00 58 137.93 0 0 1 7 3 N Pooran (WI) 5 5 0 103 46 20.60 76 135.52 0 0 0 10 5 MM Ali (ENG) 6 4 2 92 51* 46.00 70 131.42 0 1 0 6 4 Fakhar Zaman (PAK) 4 3 1 96 55* 48.00 74 129.72 0 1 0 5 6 E Lewis (WI) 5 5 0 105 56 21.00 81 129.62 0 1 0 11 7 Najibullah Zadran (AFG) 3 3 0 106 73 35.33 82 129.26 0 1 0 9 5 SO Hetmyer (WI) 5 5 1 127 81* 31.75 100 127.00 0 1 0 13 4 RR Pant (INDIA) 3 3 1 78 39 39.00 62 125.80 0 0 0 3 5 KL Rahul (INDIA) 3 3 0 90 69 30.00 72 125.00 0 1 0 9 2 Mohammad Rizwan (PAK) 4 4 1 187 79* 62.33 151 123.84 0 2 0 15 7 Mushfiqur Rahim (BAN) 5 5 1 95 57* 23.75 79 120.25 0 1 1 9 2 DJ Malan (ENG) 6 5 1 116 41 29.00 97 119.58 0 0 0 12 2 EJG Morgan (ENG) 6 4 2 68 40 34.00 57 119.29 0 0 0 5 3 AJ Finch (AUS) 6 6 0 130 44 21.66 109 119.26 0 0 2 12 6 P Nissanka (SL) 5 5 0 155 72 31.00 130 119.23 0 2 0 13 4 HE van der Dussen (SA) 5 5 2 177 94* 59.00 152 116.44 0 1 0 10 6 MDKJ Perera (SL) 5 5 0 79 35 15.80 68 116.17 0 0 0 7 2 Babar Azam (PAK) 4 4 1 167 68* 55.66 144 115.97 0 2 0 16 2 RD Berrington (SCOT) 5 5 1 76 54* 19.00 67 113.43 0 1 2 5 2 DP Conway (NZ) 4 4 2 111 46 55.50 98 113.26 0 0 0 12 1 MJ Guptill (NZ) 4 4 0 69 28 17.25 63 109.52 0 0 0 11 0 T Bavuma (SA) 5 4 1 91 46 30.33 84 108.33 0 0 0 6 2 M van Lingen (NAM) 4 4 0 54 25 13.50 50 108.00 0 0 0 5 2 Gulbadin Naib (AFG) 3 3 1 68 35* 34.00 63 107.93 0 0 0 8 1 Q de Kock (SA) 4 4 0 69 34 17.25 64 107.81 0 0 0 10 0 HG Munsey (SCOT) 5 5 0 117 29 23.40 109 107.33 0 0 0 11 7 KA Pollard (WI) 5 5 1 90 44 22.50 84 107.14 0 0 1 6 3 D Wiese (NAM) 5 5 1 117 43* 29.25 110 106.36 0 0 0 8 3 MD Shanaka (SL) 5 5 2 75 26 25.00 71 105.63 0 0 0 7 2 Mohammad Naim (BAN) 5 5 0 110 62 22.00 105 104.76 0 1 0 12 0 RR Hendricks (SA) 4 4 0 56 39 14.00 55 101.81 0 0 0 6 1 CN Greaves (SCOT) 5 5 1 70 45 17.50 69 101.44 0 0 0 5 2 V Kohli (INDIA) 3 2 0 66 57 33.00 66 100.00 0 1 0 5 1 Mohammad Nabi (AFG) 3 3 1 84 35* 42.00 84 100.00 0 0 0 7 1 Mahmudullah (BAN) 5 5 2 79 31* 26.33 80 98.75 0 0 0 7 1 SPD Smith (AUS) 6 4 1 69 35 23.00 71 97.18 0 0 0 5 0 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: All top strikers won key matches with their finishing, except for Flavor Flav! If only someone else played like a Warner for e.g. too or let SDP bat in top 3 so he alone could win a game for Ind Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, zen said: Because it could without the fear of losing chasing a low total versus a weak bowling side ... Let me reiterate, SA had higher run rate than Aus against team you have listed down, yet Aus could be champion tomorrow, proving that matches against Bangladesh was certainly created difference. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Trichromatic said: Let me reiterate, SA had higher run rate than Aus against team you have listed down, yet Aus could be champion tomorrow, proving that matches against Bangladesh also mattered. Everyone knows there can be an upset too but that does not change which were the good teams were in the competition In 1996 WC, Kenya beat WI, do we take stats v Kenya for the tournament Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 If you add the wides, byes and legbyes and overthrows opposition teams conceded due to the halo effect of modern day Sobers, he has the best SR. Why hasn't he been given the MVP award yet? raki05 1 Link to comment
sarcastic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zen said: Everyone knows there can be an upset too but that does not change which were the good teams were in the competition In 1996 WC, Kenya beat WI, do we take stats v Kenya for the tournament What @Trichromatic is saying is that the performance against Bangladesh made the difference between SA or Aus qualifying for semis. So, the team that performed better against a "minnow" team qualified vs a team that did not do that well against the same minnow. So, how can performance against a "minnow" be unimportant, when that decided who qualifies for the next round (and probably the championship). There is no upset that happened here. Both Aus and SA are much better than Bangladesh and expected to win against them. One team defeated them in much more comprehensive way than the other. And even that mattered at the end to determine who qualifies and who does not. So, performance against Bangladesh (i.e. batsmen playing with higher S/R and/or bowlers taking wickets cheaply) also matters and hence should be considered as part of the stats. Edited November 13, 2021 by sarcastic Trichromatic 1 Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, sarcastic said: What @Trichromatic is saying is that the performance of Bangladesh made the difference between SA or Aus qualifying for semis. So, the team that performed better against a "minnow" team qualified vs a team that did not do that well against the same minnow. So, how can performance against a "minnow" be unimportant, when that decided who qualifies for the next round (and probably the championship). There is no upset that happened here. Both Aus and SA are much better than Bangladesh and expected to win against them. One team defeated them in much more comprehensive way than the other. And even that mattered at the end to determine who qualifies and who does not. So, performance against Bangladesh (i.e. batsmen playing with higher S/R and/or bowlers taking wickets cheaply) also matters and hence should be considered as part of the stats. Does not matter as it is common sense that no team is going to perform at a same level v other teams ... You can have a close game v team A, while team X could beat A comprehensively In 2007 WC, both BD and IRE made it to super 8 and created an upset in S8 too. A team playing bad cricket against a lesser team does not make that lesser team a strong team for other opponents. As for stats including BD, they are here too: Ideally, one should only include the seeded teams. Only exception is SL, which played well. BD did not (Both BD and SL are unseeded). Edited November 13, 2021 by zen Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, zen said: Does not matter as it is common sense that no team is going to perform at a same level v other teams ... You can have a close game v team A, while team X could beat A comprehensively In 2007 WC, both BD and IRE made it to super 8 and created an upset in S8 too. A team playing bad cricket against a lesser team does not make that lesser team a strong team for other opponents. As for stats including BD, they are here too: Ideally, one should only include the seeded teams. Only exception is SL, which played well. BD did not (Both BD and SL are unseeded). Name 1 major team defeated by Afghanistan in a T20I series in last 10 years. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: Name 1 major team defeated by Afghanistan in a T20I series in last 10 years. Why does that matter when the team is seeded and played good cricket in the T20 WC? It has done well v WI and BD (Yes) Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, zen said: Why does that matter when the team is seeded and played good cricket in the T20 WC? It has done well v WI and BD (Yes) A team doesn't become major overnight. Am I saying them to have beaten all team or to be best in world? If team is classified as major, then they would have some beaten major teams in recent times. But parameter which you're applying is that Pandya scored against them so they must be major team. Which major teams has Afghanistan defeated in a series? Bangladesh defeated both Aus and NZ. If they aren't major team, then Afghanistan isn't either. As simple as that. This thread is nothing but a dishonest attempt to glorify Pandya's failures. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, zen said: Why does that matter when the team is seeded and played good cricket in the T20 WC? It has done well v WI and BD (Yes) Afghanistan didn't come close to beating any major team. Beaten comprehensively v India and NZ and just competed with Pakistan. Bangladesh lost only by 3 runs v WI and dominated match v SL. Link to comment
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