Away stats of Fab Four vs top nations - SENAI

[Majestic]

Let us have a look at away stats of Fab Four of batting vs top cricket nations- India, Australia, South Africa, England and New Zealand.

 

Steve Smith:-

 

Australia - 66

England - 59

India - 60

New Zealand - 131

South Africa - 41

 

Joe Root:-

 

Australia - 41

England - 52

India - 50

New Zealand - 39

South Africa - 50

 

Virat Kohli :-

 

Australia - 54

England - 34

India - 62

New Zealand - 36

South Africa - 55

 

Kane Williamson :-

 

Australia - 42

England - 32

India - 33

New Zealand - 65

South Africa - 21

 

Overall stats in these five countries :-

 

Smith - 61

Root - 45

Kohli - 44

Williamson - 34

 

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Overall stats vs these five countries ( home, away, neutral included):-

 

Smith - 61

Root - 49

Kohli - 47

Williamson - 41

 

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Edited December 10, 2021 by Majestic

[Serpico]

Root overtook kohli and become no. 2 in the fab 4. Only chink in his armour is poor record in Australia, which might improve this time

[cricketfan28]

King of India and South Africa.

[sage]

Root's second coming has been incredible. He was mocked for getting out in 60s 70s for a long time

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Serpico said:

Root overtook kohli and become no. 2 in the fab 4. Only chink in his armour is poor record in Australia, which might improve this time

Already is getting there. He will surpass kohli easily. Smith is the target now. 

 

Is Smith on decline now though? Hasn't performed since the century vs India in last B and G series where he was tamed. Averaged 40 In that series. Usually averaged 60 vs India. That's where India won't the series. 

 

[Majestic]

Kane Williamson is so overrated.

 

Away avg vs top 5 countries - 34

Avg vs top 5 countries - 40.98

[Majestic]

Root misses out from a 100 here. Average back to 38 in Australia.

[Vijy]

Smith is clearly way ahead, but his batting is slipping a bit - hope to see him get back to form. Root is better than Kohli thanks to his second run of form since last 1-2 yrs.

[Adamant]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

Already is getting there. He will surpass kohli easily. Smith is the target now. 

 

Is Smith on decline now though? Hasn't performed since the century vs India in last B and G series where he was tamed. Averaged 40 In that series. Usually averaged 60 vs India. That's where India won't the series. 

 

No one is surpassing Smith, lol. 

Root has an average of 49, Smith is at 61.

How can you even think that Root can come close to that.? 

[Adamant]

1.Smith

 

 

 

2.Kohli 

3.Root

 

 

 

4.Williamson

[Jay]

12 minutes ago, Adamant said:

No one is surpassing Smith, lol. 

Root has an average of 49, Smith is at 61.

How can you even think that Root can come close to that.? 

True. But Smith can decline badly? Wagner owned him last time. Ashwin bumrah siraj tamed him in BG series.

Is he declining badly?

 

 

[Chakdephatte]

15 minutes ago, Adamant said:

No one is surpassing Smith, lol. 

Root has an average of 49, Smith is at 61.

How can you even think that Root can come close to that.?

Two people cannot have exactly same averages. Root may not come closer to 61, but if he performs consistently in Asia, he can match Smith in terms of greatness. If Smith fails on his next India tour and Root scores, add a 400+ Ashes, he will be close in terms of dependence on the team, if not raw numbers. Moreover, Smith always had Warner/Labu to support(except in India) him. Root is more important to England as he is carrying the weakest line-up in England's test cricket history.

[Majestic]

In Test cricket, it is actually completely true that Joe Root's team is the weakest of th other three.

 

Kane's team is actually very good, we tend to take his team very lightly because of history but the current set of NZ players had been very good and although Kane has done well to make them dominant at home but he hasn't been able to lead them to away wins enough.

 

Joe Root has done all what is required from him as a batsman home or away or anywhere else, even though his batting lineup is arguably one of the worst of all-time.

[Jay]

10 minutes ago, Majestic said:

In Test cricket, it is actually completely true that Joe Root's team is the weakest of th other three.

 

Kane's team is actually very good, we tend to take his team very lightly because of history but the current set of NZ players had been very good and although Kane has done well to make them dominant at home but he hasn't been able to lead them to away wins enough.

 

Joe Root has done all what is required from him as a batsman home or away or anywhere else, even though his batting lineup is arguably one of the worst of all-time.

Kohli has the strongest side and he has underperformed the most along with Kane. Actually Kane is worse. Such a vastly overrated player. 

 

Still surprised he actually does well In n.z. under those seaming wickets. Here is the catch. Reason being he plays when the openers see off the new ball. Latham Conway etc are great openers and do their job well. Kane comes in when wickets are more docile. 

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, cricketfan28 said:

King of India and South Africa.

 

 

And Australia 

[Lone Wolf]

Root is younger than all fab 4 or whatever.  Smith is probably too high atm..  Nobody's catching the freak.  In his poor series he averages 40 lol with a ton. 

Kolli finished & Williamson overrated.  Both by the end won't be called ATG of the era. 

 

As of now  SRT Lara = Smith Root

 

Punter Dravid = Kolli Kane

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

True. But Smith can decline badly? Wagner owned him last time. Ashwin bumrah siraj tamed him in BG series.

Is he declining badly?

 

 

He might be, but still the gap is just huge. 

I saw some post where Smith would have to get some 30 consecutive ducks or something to get to 50ish avg. 

Not sure though. 

Will check that again. 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said:

Two people cannot have exactly same averages. Root may not come closer to 61, but if he performs consistently in Asia, he can match Smith in terms of greatness. If Smith fails on his next India tour and Root scores, add a 400+ Ashes, he will be close in terms of dependence on the team, if not raw numbers. Moreover, Smith always had Warner/Labu to support(except in India) him. Root is more important to England as he is carrying the weakest line-up in England's test cricket history.

Please look at the total number of serues the fab 4 have scored 500+ runs in. 

Root does not even come close to Kohli let alone Smith. 

 

Yes this year Root has been fabulous, but we both know that he rarely dominated a series before that and was always rated below Smith and Kohli due to that. 

 

Root isn't gonna come anywhere close to Smith, he hasn't had the impact which Smith had. 

 

Even in India this time he cashed in on the flat track and failed throughout the series. 

Smith scored runs on turners. 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Adamant

[Adamant]

Root won't be highly rated unless he dominates an Ashes. 

 

Ashes is the most important series for an Englishmen and he has been mediocre in that. 

 

No centuries in Australia for an English ATG? That's unheard of! 

Similarly even in home ashes series, he hasn't done well, record is very mediocre. 

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Root won't be highly rated unless he dominates an Ashes. 

 

Ashes is the most important series for an Englishmen and he has been mediocre in that. 

 

No centuries in Australia for an English ATG? That's unheard of! 

Similarly even in home ashes series, he hasn't done well, record is very mediocre. 

He was player of series in 2015 home Ashes. Played some really clutch knocks in that series in tough conditions.